Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free

Your degree and your career aspirations - how do they match up? Watch

    • TSR Support Team
    • Thread Starter
    Online

    21
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Axlerod)
    Sheeeeet, just read that head of human resources at Man group said that they tend to hire 4-6 graduates every year out of 1000 applicants, damn that's reallyyyyyy competitive
    Not that bad tbf. My friend got BlackRock (HF) and that was 6 out of ~2k applicants.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • TSR Support Team
    • Thread Starter
    Online

    21
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Mentally)
    I'm not sure I understand.
    The whole post was about people coming in with high salary expectations (usually STEM students) when they don't even know what job they want to do. Your response was the exact problem I've been seeing on TSR...

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Vinny1900)
    Employers don't pay that level.
    The right employers do
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Not that bad tbf. My friend got BlackRock (HF) and that was 6 out of ~2k applicants.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Straight out of undergrad? What uni did he go?
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    The whole post was about people coming in with high salary expectations (usually STEM students) when they don't even know what job they want to do. Your response was the exact problem I've been seeing on TSR...

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Hilarious, the guy with the expected starting salary of 50k telling the other guy going for not too far from half of that, that he is aiming too high.
    Plus idk doesnt mean i have absolutely no idea what in going for. I have a broad idea of the careers that pay that much, im not too sure on the specifics
    • TSR Support Team
    • Thread Starter
    Online

    21
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Mentally)
    Hilarious, the guy with the expected starting salary of 50k telling the other guy going for not too far from half of that, that he is aiming too high.
    Plus idk doesnt mean i have absolutely no idea what in going for. I have a broad idea of the careers that pay that much, im not too sure on the specifics
    Because I've seen the contract for each position as I have friends who are heading into both of those jobs this year. I don't care for 'expectations', I care for what each job actually pays.

    You on the other hand just said '£35k, idk how I will tho'. If you had a broad 'idea' why not put them down?

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Because I've seen the contract for each position as I have friends who are heading into both of those jobs this year. I don't care for 'expectations', I care for what each job actually pays.

    You on the other hand just said '£35k, idk how I will tho'. If you had a broad 'idea' why not put them down?

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    I never said I didn't know how I will though, the idk was written afrer the careers meaning I didn't yet decide specifically on what career route ill go through to aim for that salary. Plus there are quite a few graduate schemes that offer ~35kish here in london
    • TSR Support Team
    • Thread Starter
    Online

    21
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Mentally)
    I never said I didn't know how I will though, the idk was written afrer the careers meaning I didn't yet decide specifically on what career route ill go through to aim for that salary. Plus there are quite a few graduate schemes that offer ~35kish here in london
    That's why I put 'careers', in case you're deliberating between a few. Which grad schemes pay £35k that you personally know of? (I know there are quite a few but I'm seeing if you can come up with concrete roles + companies)

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    That's why I put 'careers', in case you're deliberating between a few. Which grad schemes pay £35k that you personally know of? (I know there are quite a few but I'm seeing if you can come up with concrete roles + companies)

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Ill list them all when i get home. Gimme a few mins
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    Degree: Computer Science BSc.
    Jobs/Careers of Interest: Software Development/IT Consultancy.
    Graduate Salary Expected: £25-30k.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    That's why I put 'careers', in case you're deliberating between a few. Which grad schemes pay £35k that you personally know of? (I know there are quite a few but I'm seeing if you can come up with concrete roles + companies)

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Plenty of retail graduate scheme offer that, the one that grabbed my eye was the "Aldi graduate scheme", though thats not my first priority, my first ideal choice would be consultancy in one of the big 4 in auditing, I have some links and know some people from other consultancy firms e.g. Newton even though their role is vastly different(Newton employs mostly engineers that works to minimise waste and focuses mainly on "margins" via inefficient methods) but thats where I was firstly hooked onto the idea. Again, though looking at the competition im not planning to place all my hopes on it. Academia @ university level is also an option ive thought about for a while, not in the UK though ( I can pm you the country and the exact Universities you've probably been to one of these countries), they don't offer 35k starting but with the benefits and bonuses easily sums up to ~30kish
    • Community Assistant
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    Degree- Pharmacy
    Careers of Interest- Management Consultancy
    Graduate Salary Expected- £30-35000
    • TSR Support Team
    • Thread Starter
    Online

    21
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by Mentally)
    Plenty of retail graduate scheme offer that, the one that grabbed my eye was the "Aldi graduate scheme", though thats not my first priority, my first ideal choice would be consultancy in one of the big 4 in auditing, I have some links and know some people from other consultancy firms e.g. Newton even though their role is vastly different(Newton employs mostly engineers that works to minimise waste and focuses mainly on "margins" via inefficient methods) but thats where I was firstly hooked onto the idea. Again, though looking at the competition im not planning to place all my hopes on it. Academia @ university level is also an option ive thought about for a while, not in the UK though ( I can pm you the country and the exact Universities you've probably been to one of these countries), they don't offer 35k starting but with the benefits and bonuses easily sums up to ~30kish
    Great response. Good to see you have at least some ideas, and that you've done a bit of digging.

    Afaik, Newton is quite close to £40k and big4 audit is £29-30k in London. I've heard the Aldi area manager scheme is hellish beyond belief tho.. 12+ hours a day, and sometimes you have to clean up the store lol.

    By academia, do you mean the PhD -> Lecturer/Researcher route or?
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Great response. Good to see you have at least some ideas, and that you've done a bit of digging.

    Afaik, Newton is quite close to £40k and big4 audit is £29-30k in London. I've heard the Aldi area manager scheme is hellish beyond belief tho.. 12+ hours a day, and sometimes you have to clean up the store lol.

    By academia, do you mean the PhD -> Lecturer/Researcher route or?
    Precisely, that route, its probably the longest but has plenty of many advantage compared to the rest. As for the starting salary I kind of averaged out, I admit it would be fairer to round it to the lower £30k-35kishh
    Ive been hearing alot of horror stories from graduates at Aldis, alot claim they give them the workload of 2 people

    Im not completely sure which route i'll go down tbh, im still in my first year trying to keep my options open, I can decide later for the Academia and graduate scheme, but for the consultancy im making sure to get some essential internship/experiences done now (even though I know im very likely not to make it). (read a study somewhere that most people change their career choice atleast 3 times whilst in university! :bawling:)
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    Degree: Law
    Career of interest: Corporate Solicitor at a decent firm
    Expected Graduate Salary: £30-40k
    Offline

    18
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by sabana)
    Nope I don't I'm planning on a PGCE, also teaching is only 4 years usually. 3 yrs for your bachelors degree and 1 yr for pgce.
    Why not PGCE? Also don't forget QTS
    Offline

    22
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Why not PGCE? Also don't forget QTS
    The person said she was planning to do a PGCE.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Degree: Maths and Computer Science (Data Science)
    Jobs/Careers of Interest: TMT Coverage - IBD, Strategy Consulting
    Graduate Salary Expected: IBD: £50k base, 30-50% bonus. Strat: £35-40k base, 10% bonus.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    So you've essentially posted a thread about people having unrealistic expectations then went ahead and posted an unrealistic graduate salary yourself.

    Brilliant. How many of these 50k a year fresh out of university jobs are there? Surely that's literally the opposite of realistic?
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    So you've essentially posted a thread about people having unrealistic expectations then went ahead and posted an unrealistic graduate salary yourself.

    Brilliant. How many of these 50k a year fresh out of university jobs are there? Surely that's literally the opposite of realistic?
    They exist but are just extremely competitive, as ultimately they are very rare. If someone backs themselves as having an exceptional CV and ability to get through the assessments, there is no reason for people to not hope to achieve that.

    Whether they will or not is another matter, but it seems in this instance they seem pretty career driven and switched on to what the jobs are, which is half the battle.


    Posted from TSR Mobile
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    So you've essentially posted a thread about people having unrealistic expectations then went ahead and posted an unrealistic graduate salary yourself.

    Brilliant. How many of these 50k a year fresh out of university jobs are there? Surely that's literally the opposite of realistic?
    I think the thread was aimed at STEM students who expect a high graduate salary but have no firm idea how they will get there. It's fair enough if you have specific roles in mind and are doing what you need to do to have a decent shot at those roles.
 
 
 
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Has a teacher ever helped you cheat?
    Useful resources

    Articles and guides:

    Hands typing

    Degrees without fees

    Discover more about degree-level apprenticeships.

    A-Z of careers Advice on choosing a careerCV writing helpCovering letter helpInterview tips

    Featured recruiter profiles:

    CGI logo

    CGI is open for applications

    "Offering a range of apprentice and sponsored degree positions."

    Deutsche Bank logo

    Deutsche Bank is recruiting

    "Thrive in an international banking environment"

    ICAEW logo

    Merck

    "Merck is a global leader in specialized pharma & chemicals – join us!"

    Army logo

    The Army is recruiting now

    "With hundreds of roles available, there’s more than one way to be the best."

    Bianca Miller, runner-up on The Apprentice

    Handle your digital footprint

    What would an employer find out about you on Google? Find out how to take control.

    Quick links:

    Unanswered career sector and employment threads

    Groups associated with this forum:

    View associated groups
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Write a reply...
    Reply
    Hide
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.