Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by wildleaves)
    I doubt soldiers just like shooting people for fun. Poor woman though.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    https://electronicintifada.net/conte...t-boy-fun/5357

    'A group of Israeli soldiers serving in the Gaza Strip have reportedly admitted killing a 15-year-old Palestinian in Khan Yunus for sport.'
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    https://electronicintifada.net/conte...t-boy-fun/5357

    'A group of Israeli soldiers serving in the Gaza Strip have reportedly admitted killing a 15-year-old Palestinian in Khan Yunus for sport.'
    That is very disturbing. I'll have to do more research in my spare time.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by wildleaves)
    That is very disturbing. I'll have to do more research in my spare time.
    Aww thank you!! I appreciate you admitting that it is disturbing and not finding an excuse for it.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    The family said Maram was five months pregnant at the time of her death as Palestinian authorities confirmed the two were on their way to a medical appointment in Jerusalem after obtaining an Israeli permit to do so.

    She had an Israeli permit. Which means she wasn't lying, as the hospital in Jerusalem was expecting her.
    Yes I know

    But I am asking how did those who shot her know she was pregnant

    It's just people keep saying they shot a 'pregnant woman' and even 'heavily pregnant'

    Rather then they simply shot 'a women'.

    it's just the fact she was pregnant has no bearing on why she was shot but it keeps getting highlighted

    But oddly the thing people don't want to talk about is they went armed (you forget she wasn't alone) to a checkpoint.

    But then this doesn't fit the narrative of 'them Jews even kill innocent pregnant mothers'.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    I feel sorry for the baby here, the brother too if he didn't know what his sister was planning.

    She knew that approaching IDF/Police with a knife was only ever going to end with her getting killed, along with whoever else she was with.

    I wonder if she thought she'd be able to stab someone first?
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    Yes I know

    But I am asking how did those who shot her know she was pregnant

    It's just people keep saying they shot a 'pregnant woman' and even 'heavily pregnant'

    Rather then they simply shot 'a women'.

    it's just the fact she was pregnant has no bearing on why she was shot but it keeps getting highlighted

    But oddly the thing people don't want to talk about is they went armed (you forget she wasn't alone) to a checkpoint.

    But then this doesn't fit the narrative of 'them Jews even kill innocent pregnant mothers'.
    Why do you believe that she was holding a knife when there wasn't proof.
    I though you believed in proof. Where's the proof that she was actually holding a knife.

    Do you really think a woman is so stupid that she'll bring a knife to a checkpoint while walking with her brother. Do you actually believe that she will put her baby and her brother in danger. And even if she did have a knife, do you actually think that she will take it out and flop it around, so the soldiers can see her.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by TelAviv)
    I feel sorry for the baby here, the brother too if he didn't know what his sister was planning.

    She knew that approaching IDF/Police with a knife was only ever going to end with her getting killed, along with whoever else she was with.

    I wonder if she thought she'd be able to stab someone first?
    The soldiers planted the knife on her after shooting her. She didn't have a knife.
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    And yet, the witnesses stated otherwise.

    Even if they *thought* she had a knife:
    There is a possibility that is a lie.
    Offline

    8
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Impressive)
    Now when you done your research. Tell me why it's not included in OP's link.
    Ops! I'm not this thread starter.
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    She had an Israeli permit.
    She had not.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    The soldiers planted the knife on her after shooting her. She didn't have a knife.
    You're basing this statement on the testimonial of a Palestinian witness. These do not necessarily constitute fact.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    Why do you believe that she was holding a knife when there wasn't proof.
    I though you believed in proof. Where's the proof that she was actually holding a knife.

    Do you really think a woman is so stupid that she'll bring a knife to a checkpoint while walking with her brother. Do you actually believe that she will put her baby and her brother in danger. And even if she did have a knife, do you actually think that she will take it out and flop it around, so the soldiers can see her.
    All credible news sources report they were armed.

    Stupid no. Desperate and taught to hate yes.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    All credible news sources report they were armed.

    Stupid no. Desperate and taught to hate yes.
    Absolutely. Hating 'Jews' is fashionable, especially in Muslim majority areas.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)

    Well maybe the Israeli force needs some proper training, on how to shoot people.
    I think they are adequate enough at shooting people already.

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Aceadria)
    You're basing this statement on the testimonial of a Palestinian witness. These do not necessarily constitute fact.
    You're basing your statement on the Israeli witness.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Absolutely. Hating 'Jews' is fashionable, especially in Muslim majority areas.
    I don't hate Jews, and a lot of Muslims I know don't either.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    You're basing your statement on the Israeli witness.
    I did not state my view as fact; you did.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ShiningNights)
    I don't hate Jews, and a lot of Muslims I know don't either.
    But that does not mean that Muslims like them:

    (Original post by Pew Research)
    Anti-Jewish sentiment is endemic in the Muslim world. In Lebanon, all Muslims and 99% of Christians say they have a very unfavorable view of Jews. Similarly, 99% of Jordanians have a very unfavorable view of Jews. Large majorities of Moroccans, Indonesians, Pakistanis and six-in-ten Turks also view Jews unfavorably.
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2005/07/14/...stern-publics/

    Again, your opinion does not necessarily constitute fact.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Absolutely. Hating 'Jews' is fashionable, especially in Muslim majority areas.
    I'm a Muslim and I don't hate Jews. Please, don't make assumptions like that.
    And it's not fashionable, it's disgusting.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Aceadria)
    But that does not mean that Muslims like them

    Again, your opinion does not necessarily constitute fact.
    In Lebanon, all Muslims and 99% of Christians

    You could say the same about Christians then.
    Opinions are what make facts, where do you think these statistics came from? From the opinions of people.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Mona-S)
    In Lebanon, all Muslims and 99% of Christians

    You could say the same about Christians then.
    We are not discussing Christians here.

    (Original post by Mona-S)
    Opinions are what make facts, where do you think these statistics came from? From the opinions of people.
    One opinion does not constitute fact; a majority does. The above poll showed that all viewed Jews unfavourably.
 
 
 
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    What's your favourite Christmas sweets?
    Useful resources
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Quick reply
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.