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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Except that isn't a "gay" issue. It's an issue with the individuals. It isn't a property of their sexual orientation.
    While violence against women is an issue for both straight and gay men, I feel like you're being obtuse as you side-stepped the point completely and to no good effect.

    I'm pointing out an inherent problem in the gay male community which is threatened by straight women who are their direct competition and as a result resort to name calling and good ol' misogyny because "she's" sleeping with someone who "he" fancies. I've seen it time and time again, gay men coming for straight women for no good reason and it appears that their behaviour is socially acceptable. You often hear gay men call women *****es, whores and in a lot of cases gay men perpetuate misogyny the most and frequently threaten violence
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    (Original post by Kylie Jenner)
    While violence against women is an issue for both straight and gay men, I feel like you're being obtuse as you side-stepped the point completely and to no good effect.

    I'm pointing out an inherent problem in the gay male community which is threatened by straight women who are their direct competition and as a result resort to name calling and good ol' misogyny because "she's" sleeping with someone who "he" fancies. I've seen it time and time again, gay men coming for straight women for no good reason and it appears that their behaviour is socially acceptable. You often hear gay men call women *****es, whores and in a lot of cases gay men perpetuate misogyny the most and frequently threaten violence
    I disagree with you that it's a gay men thing. Gay men and straight men are known for speaking to women like that just as much as each other. It isn't because they're gay that they treat people like that. It's individuals, of which there will always be. And don't call me obtuse for disagreeing with you, my point is just as valid as yours. That would make you obtuse for making such a critical comment.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    1. More heterosexuals do that than homosexual men.

    2. Why do you think gay people = gay men?

    3. Many gay men do not practise anal sex.
    :nothing: Really.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    :nothing: Really.
    While I don't think much of Ivy Bridge he is absolutely right. May come shocking to you but lots of gay people do not have anal sex because it is either uncomfortable, they find it gross (like some straight people do) or they're just not into it and last I checked there was more straight people than gays. So more straight people have anal sex than gays? Most likely.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    :nothing: Really.
    Well, yes. Statistically they do. I am yet to meet a man who doesn't state that they'd like to bang their girlfriend from behind. And plus, homosexuals take up only 6% as a maximum, of the population. Of course more straight men will be having anal intercourse than gay men. It's just because it's the only way for gay men to have penetrative sex so people instantly assume that:

    a) we all do it;

    and

    b) only we do it and it's a gay thing - it isn't and we all know it, really.

    Furthermore, there are many straight men who have sex with other men for sexual fantasies or because they're "gay for pay". Most people say "Oh, how can they be straight lmfao" and that's usually because people fail to understand that sexuality is about who you are sexually attracted to, not necessarily who you bang.
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    (Original post by Kylie Jenner)
    While violence against women is an issue for both straight and gay men, I feel like you're being obtuse as you side-stepped the point completely and to no good effect.

    I'm pointing out an inherent problem in the gay male community which is threatened by straight women who are their direct competition and as a result resort to name calling and good ol' misogyny because "she's" sleeping with someone who "he" fancies. I've seen it time and time again, gay men coming for straight women for no good reason and it appears that their behaviour is socially acceptable. You often hear gay men call women *****es, whores and in a lot of cases gay men perpetuate misogyny the most and frequently threaten violence
    I agree. It's pretty common for gay men in clubs to grab women's breasts, bums etc and then be like 'I'm gay'. Nah, mate you still sexually assaulted someone. Or to tell women how they should look, dress or act because they feel that as men they have rights over women's bodies. They'll use words like 'disgusting' to describe vaginas. A lot of white gay men say things like they've got the personality of a 'sassy black woman' and it's like 'urgh, please don't'. Gay men often feel they can get away with misogyny because they're gay and they surround themselves with people who think it's ok so it goes unchecked.
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    I think everyone should just keep their businesses out of everyone elses? Gay, bi whatever doesn't really affect anyone else 🙄
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Well, yes. Statistically they do. I am yet to meet a man who doesn't state that they'd like to bang their girlfriend from behind. And plus, homosexuals take up only 6% as a maximum, of the population. Of course more straight men will be having anal intercourse than gay men. It's just because it's the only way for gay men to have penetrative sex so people instantly assume that:

    a) we all do it;

    and

    b) only we do it and it's a gay thing - it isn't and we all know it, really.

    Furthermore, there are many straight men who have sex with other men for sexual fantasies or because they're "gay for pay". Most people say "Oh, how can they be straight lmfao" and that's usually because people fail to understand that sexuality is about who you are sexually attracted to, not necessarily who you bang.
    So ear sex is not a real thing? This is a serious question, I promise.
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    (Original post by Kylie Jenner)
    While I don't think much of Ivy Bridge he is absolutely right. May come shocking to you but lots of gay people do not have anal sex because it is either uncomfortable, they find it gross (like some straight people do) or they're just not into it and last I checked there was more straight people than gays. So more straight people have anal sex than gays? Most likely.

    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Well, yes. Statistically they do. I am yet to meet a man who doesn't state that they'd like to bang their girlfriend from behind. And plus, homosexuals take up only 6% as a maximum, of the population. Of course more straight men will be having anal intercourse than gay men. It's just because it's the only way for gay men to have penetrative sex so people instantly assume that:

    a) we all do it;

    and

    b) only we do it and it's a gay thing - it isn't and we all know it, really.

    Furthermore, there are many straight men who have sex with other men for sexual fantasies or because they're "gay for pay". Most people say "Oh, how can they be straight lmfao" and that's usually because people fail to understand that sexuality is about who you are sexually attracted to, not necessarily who you bang.
    I'm talking about the gays who do have anal sex, which they generally would. There can't be an official poll on that though and if there is link me but I'm not talking about, gay population percentage compared to straight. If that's the case then everyone would stop assuming black men are most likely to be criminals because whites have a higher number in population even though a lower probability to commit certain crime. So are we now conveniently discussing the amount of gays versus straights, or are we discussing the appropriate measurement here which is likelihood? I'm talking about likelihood and I'm sure it's more likely that male gays will have anal sex than male and female; many females don't want it up there whereas for gays that's a bit standard as it's the only option next to being celibate, which most secular people are not. KylieJenner says it's uncomfortable like that would reduce the probability of gay anal sex but then that would also reduce it for women and heterosexual sex...So you can't use that either.
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    (Original post by Kylie Jenner)
    So ear sex is not a real thing? This is a serious question, I promise.
    Well, I'm trying yo talk about vaginal/anal intercourse being the only proper forms of penetrative sex. Ear sex is hardly a thing - nonody can fit their weiner in someone's ear hole; its tiny. But yeah, whatever.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    I'm talking about the gays who do have anal sex, which they generally would. There can't be an official poll on that though and if there is link me but I'm not talking about, gay population percentage compared to straight. If that's the case then everyone would stop assuming black men are most likely to be criminals because whites have a higher number in population even though a lower probability to commit certain crime. So are we now conveniently discussing the amount of gays versus straights, or are we discussing the appropriate measurement here which is likelihood? I'm talking about likelihood and I'm sure it's more likely that male gays will have anal sex than male and female; many females don't want it up there whereas for gays that's a bit standard as it's the only option next to being celibate, which most secular people are not. KylieJenner says it's uncomfortable like that would reduce the probability of gay anal sex but then that would also reduce it for women and heterosexual sex...So you can't use that either.
    I really don't follow half of what you're saying. You talk about facts but you just make an assumption yourself - many women do have anal sex and in proportion to homosexual numbers, more straight couples have anal sex and its not that uncommon for a woman to sexually stimulate a man anally either. There's a reason the male g-spot is up your backside.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    I really don't follow half of what you're saying. You talk about facts but you just make an assumption yourself - many women do have anal sex and in proportion to homosexual numbers, more straight couples have anal sex and its not that uncommon for a woman to sexually stimulate a man anally either. There's a reason the male g-spot is up your backside.
    I would never say females don't have anal sex, I only said many don't want it. You say many do, neither of us is wrong. Many don't, many do...

    However the standard for heterosexual sex is not anal sex, it's vaginal. The standard for male gay sex is anal. This doesn't mean all women do not want anal or all gays do? And again more heterosexuals do not have anal sex, in probability. There's more heterosexuals, obviously, but that doesn't automatically mean anal sex for them is a standard; you're picking small flowers right now trying to claim otherwise simply because there's more of us than you. Again for example there's more whites but the ratio/probability of crime being committed is what is important, not simply the amount of people there are walking around. I assure you that while both gay and straight sexualities include people who may have anal, but the likelihood is higher that a gay is having anal sex than a straight. I can guarantee that. I challenged you to post stats not suggesting but literally showing otherwise, you didn't because you probably can't, so don't try to pontificate what you think.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    I would never say females don't have anal sex, I only said many don't want it. You say many do, neither of us is wrong. Many don't, many do...

    However the standard for heterosexual sex is not anal sex, it's vaginal. The standard for male gay sex is anal. This doesn't mean all women do not want anal or all gays do? And again more heterosexuals do not have anal sex, in probability. There's more heterosexuals, obviously, but that doesn't automatically mean anal sex for them is a standard; you're picking small flowers right now trying to claim otherwise simply because there's more of us than you. Again for example there's more whites but the ratio/probability of crime being committed is what is important, not simply the amount of people there are walking around. I assure you that while both gay and straight sexualities include people who may have anal, but the likelihood is higher that a gay is having anal sex than a straight. I can guarantee that. I challenged you to post stats not suggesting but literally showing otherwise, you didn't because you probably can't, so don't try to pontificate what you think.
    Just because I'm sitting in bed on my phone and haven't bothered to go trawling for the stats again doesn't mean I can't. Plus, you are definining the proprtion as the standard which is very wrong. It doesn't have to be a standard to be in abundance.

    Edit: some statistics that serve a purpose but in the meantime, I'll find the ones I was on about.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health...an_cometh.html
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Just because I'm sitting in bed on my phone and haven't bothered to go trawling for the stats again doesn't mean I can't. Plus, you are definining the proprtion as the standard which is very wrong. It doesn't have to be a standard to be in abundance.
    Ok so now you're saying it's "in abundance." Great, never said it's not, don't know why you're trying to project anal sex onto heterosexuals. But anyway again yes it might be "in abundance," but that doesn't equal, majority heterosexuals have anal, and definitely not that a heterosexual couple is more likely to have anal sex than a gay! That makes no sense lol Oh right there's more heterosexuals. Ok and? First of all in order for it to be subsequent or inevitable that heterosexuals are having anal sex more due to their higher population, it would mean that anal sex is a heterosexual standard, for it to count for all of us in general, and it's not-so it doesn't. So you're in the wrong. Yes some may have anal, but I guarantee it's more so in or due to porn than nature or reality. So if that's what you're thinking, most porn is done for male stimulus and pleasure, and the female actor's and viewer's kinks are often disregarded during concept and filming. So don't base anal sex being popular in porn as reality...many (not all) deflowered females don't initially nor exclusively and nor do they even eventually want anal. As opposed to gay sex, which is a given...And not that I buy the phone thing, you shouldn't be getting into a conversation if you didn't have the basics or the energy to discuss.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    Ok so now you're saying it's "in abundance." Great, never said it's not, don't know why you're trying to project anal sex onto heterosexuals. But anyway again yes it might be "in abundance," but that doesn't equal, majority heterosexuals have anal...
    Stopped reading here.

    You lost all credibility by going down this "oh boo hoo why are you pushing it on me?" line of argument - don't enter a debate on an issue you can't handle and then say it's being pushed on you. Anal sex is not a gay practise. It's a sexual practise explored by people of varying sexualities. Furthermore, im abundance simply means there's a lot of it... which there is. I also didn't say the majority of heterosexuals have any form of anal intercourse. I am, this entire time, talking about it being relative to the number of homosexuals. Gay men do not have more anal sex, statistically, than the heterosexual populace. It's a fact. The one link I gave you validates that. I'll search for the other stats tomorrow if I can be bothered. Learn to read before you engage your mouth.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Stopped reading here.

    You lost all credibility by going down this "oh boo hoo why are you pushing it on me?" line of argument - don't enter a debate on an issue you can't handle and then say it's being pushed on you. Anal sex is not a gay practise. It's a sexual practise explored by people of varying sexualities. Furthermore, im abundance simply means there's a lot of it... which there is. I also didn't say the majority of heterosexuals have any form of anal intercourse. I am, this entire time, talking about it being relative to the number of homosexuals. Gay men do not have more anal sex, statistically, than the heterosexual populace. It's a fact. The one link I gave you validates that. I'll search for the other stats tomorrow if I can be bothered. Learn to read before you engage your mouth.
    ...My mouth isn't doing anything, I'm typing and well done being too intimidated to continue reading just because you can't articulately defend yourself. No idea why you'll think I'll entertain or respect anything else you say from here since you want to omit but still obtusely argue.

    I don't know what link you've posted (ah yes, you've gone back to edit which shows you didn't know what you were on about before and are second guessing, while you have the cheek to say I can't read as if it was always written there!?). I don't know what your mission here is and neither do you know, since you "can't be bothered today" to even make sense of your own claims rofl.

    Anyway gays are more likely to have anal sex.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    ...My mouth isn't doing anything, I'm typing and well done being too intimidated to continue reading just because you can't articulately defend yourself. No idea why you'll think I'll entertain or respect anything else you say from here since you want to omit but still obtusely argue.

    I don't know what link you've posted (ah yes, you've gone back to edit which shows you didn't know what you were on about before and are second guessing, while you have the cheek to say I can't read as if it was always written there!?). I don't know what your mission here is and neither do you know, since you "can't be bothered today" to even make sense of your own claims rofl.

    Anyway gays are more likely to have anal sex.
    I don't think many lesbians are having anal sex...

    So given there is probably half of the gay population definitely not having anal sex, and the other half may only possible have anal sex, I'm not entirely sure your assumption holds up.

    Anal sex is not a gay practice, it is a sexual practice had by many around the world of many orientations.
 
 
 
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