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    (Original post by loveleest)
    But they do and that is a fact.
    Do u want a golden sticker?

    (Original post by Mjcal1)
    Really? So I take it you know "most" ex-Muslims, or you've seen a study of ex-muslims?

    Shall I tell you what's funny? That you believe a husband is allowed to beat his wife (under certain circumstances). Don't believe me? Check it out with your friends at ISOC.

    Can't believe it when people take the moral high ground whilst hey hold on to very archaic beliefs.
    I know u got ur degree in islamic studies and know enough about the topic. you probably read the quran 5 times too. I believe u
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    I was talking about when they give statistics like I ALWAYS hear from ex-muslims 'if most muslims read the quran or hadith they would leave the religion' or 'Most muslims don't even know what hadith is' Which someone did say above actually. They make it as thought they know Islam better than a muslim which is why they left.
    Everything you just wrote is irrelevant to this thread.
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    Do u want a golden sticker?
    I'd prefer a gold medal tbh
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Everything you just wrote is irrelevant to this thread.
    Most replies are irrelevant to the thread doesn't mean i can't write it
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    (Original post by macsalaama)
    You see, since she's a woman I'm guessing the answer is nothing.

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    Maybe in jannah they can shine brighter than the hoor al ayn though! The dunya is for the disbelievers anyways...
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    Do u want a golden sticker?



    I know u got ur degree in islamic studies and know enough about the topic. you probably read the quran 5 times too. I believe u
    Either I'm right or I'm wrong...Go ask a scholar.
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    I was talking about when they give statistics like I ALWAYS hear from ex-muslims 'if most muslims read the quran or hadith they would leave the religion' or 'Most muslims don't even know what hadith is'.

    Yeh them ex Muslims are so arrogant arent they?

    (Original post by Hibzish)
    most ex muslims act like they know Islam better than any other muslims which is why they left. It's actually funny
    Oh wait... Nevermind.
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    (Original post by Mjcal1)
    Maybe in jannah they can shine brighter than the hoor al ayn though! The dunya is for the disbelievers anyways...
    :laugh:
    Ameen akhi.


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    (Original post by Mjcal1)
    Either I'm right or I'm wrong...Go ask a scholar.
    Oh i should ask a scholar? Naa ur more knowledgeable than a scholar i should take my religion from you
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    (Original post by muhammad97)
    I did more research into the life of Prophet Muhammad, and just wasn't able to justify his actions. Such as murder, keeping slaves, having sex with a child, beating his wifes, treating women awfully etc.
    You clearly haven't researched otherwise you wouldn't come to this conclusion. Also, where did you get this RESEARCH from? were there from biased websites.
    For your information, the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) did not do such actions e.g. murder innocent individuals etc.
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    (Original post by Cobalt_)
    Yeh them ex Muslims are so arrogant arent they?



    Oh wait... Nevermind.
    You got me
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    Most replies are irrelevant to the thread doesn't mean i can't write it
    Okay, continue complaining about us Ex Muslims teaching you your very own religion.
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Okay, continue complaining about us Ex Muslims teaching you your very own religion.
    My teachers who have studied for years and years aint got nothing on ex muslims!
    Please let me study under your guidance
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    Oh i should ask a scholar? Naa ur more knowledgeable than a scholar i should take my religion from you
    Ok. Pray 5 times a day, fast, and be happy for your husband when he marries his 2nd 3rd and 4th wives. Completing half his deen 4 times is surely a blessing.
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    My teachers who have studied for years and years aint got nothing on ex muslims!
    Please let me study under your guidance
    All the sarcasm and jokes aside, is there actually a post critical of Islam in this thread with wrong information? If there is you're more than welcome to correct them.
    Or are you just spouting nonsense?

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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    My teachers who have studied for years and years aint got nothing on ex muslims!
    Please let me study under your guidance
    Very well, my student. The path to Jannah is easy. You just have to make sure your ankles are covered and do everything your future husband tells you to do. Oh, and pray 5 times and eat meat from a halal provider that has abused the animal beforehand. Then Allah will grant you a first class ticket to Wonderland.

    And Allah knows best.
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    (Original post by Mjcal1)
    Ok. Pray 5 times a day, fast, and be happy for your husband when he marries his 2nd 3rd and 4th wives. Completing half his deen 4 times is surely a blessing.
    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Very well, my student. The path to Jannah is easy. You just have to make sure your ankles are covered and do everything your future husband tells you to do. Oh, and pray 5 times and eat meat from a halal provider that has abused the animal beforehand. Then Allah will grant you a first class ticket to Wonderland.

    And Allah knows best.
    Thank you for this I'm going to live a better life now
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    (Original post by Hibzish)
    They make it as thought they know Islam better than a muslim which is why they left.
    This isn't quite as unbelievable as you think. It's uncontroversial to any objective person that most Muslims (and religious people generally) follow the religion and culture of their parents. It's part of their identity more than it is a belief in the conventional sense; they don't examine it any more than a stereotypical American examines his patriotism.

    It's probably incorrect to claim that simply gaining a better understanding of Islam will make people apostasise - I'd hazard a guess that most people who do so cling to it anyway and use various methods to justify this to themselves (an annoyingly large number of which involve explaining away unpleasantness by claiming it's some Western/American/media/Mossad conspiracy to defame Islam - if ever you wanted evidence of a lack of individual thought regarding their religion in Muslim communities, just count how many of them are prepared to use some variant of this; I'd be very surprised if the number doesn't exceed 1 billion). It is however entirely reasonable to claim that somebody who leaves a religion after having studied it knows more about it than somebody who casually follows it because of tradition.
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    (Original post by macsalaama)
    All the sarcasm and jokes aside, is there actually a post critical of Islam in this thread with wrong information? If there is you're more than welcome to correct them.
    Or are you just spouting nonsense?

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    Tbh the discussion will never end so i never bother debating Islam on tsr, those days are long over
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    Sigh.
    Why do so many of you Muslims deny what is written in the quran?
    Prophet muhammad murdered? treated women awfully? Which verse in the quran says this??? Please let me know.
 
 
 
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