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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    I don't even see why the MHoC as relevant; seen as I'm a part of the MHoC, but barely active.

    Where do you draw the line?

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    IDK, the only reason the limit is there is because one MHoCer that will probably not even look at the thread says it's boring reading us and so it shouldn't be all MHoC
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    IDK, the only reason the limit is there is because one MHoCer that will probably not even look at the thread says it's boring reading us and so it shouldn't be all MHoC
    Why wouldn't I look at this thread?

    It is boring seeing MHoC users (who have already debated the EU before) repeat the same arguments all over again. Frankly, most MHoC users just aren't very good at debating compared to other people who use the D&CA forums.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Why wouldn't I look at this thread?

    It is boring seeing MHoC users (who have already debated the EU before) repeat the same arguments all over again. Frankly, most MHoC users just aren't very good at debating compared to other people who use the D&CA forums.
    And it's boring reading the D&CA people making the same arguments over an over again, or have you not been looking at it recently?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And it's boring reading the D&CA people making the same arguments over an over again, or have you not been looking at it recently?
    Of course they do, that's why I asked what the purpose of this debate was in the first place. But even so, I'd rather re-read a post from a sensible and informed D&CA user than the tripe that passes for debate in the MHoC.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Of course they do, that's why I asked what the purpose of this debate was in the first place. But even so, I'd rather re-read a post from a sensible and informed D&CA user than the tripe that passes for debate in the MHoC.
    Is that why you're still there and rarely contribute?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is that why you're still there and rarely contribute?
    I choose not to get involved in MHoC debates because they're a waste of time. There's no point debating with people who are unwilling and unable to change their mind no matter what argument or facts they're faced with. But this isn't relevant to this thread.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I find it odd that you cite my exclusion as due to the 2 MHoC per team while only having 1 MHoC member on the team and define balanced left-right as 3 lefties and somebody who is difficult to place.

    Similarly, for the Remain side you have two greens, a Labourite and a Liberal.

    If those are left right balanced then where are you setting the centre point? Is corbyn right wing or only a centrist?

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    Tbh, I was very surprised to see that you weren't on the list.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Tbh, I was very surprised to see that you weren't on the list.
    Having had a look at the individuals I'm far more concerned that we have 6 lefties (at least 4 of them rather extremely so), a centrist and a "fourth way" person when it is supposed to be broadly balanced left right

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Having had a look at the individuals I'm far more concerned that we have 6 lefties (at least 4 of them rather extremely so), a centrist and a "fourth way" person when it is supposed to be broadly balanced left right

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    Why should it be? This isn't a left/right issue, some left-leaning people want to leave the EU and vice versa.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Why wouldn't I look at this thread?

    It is boring seeing MHoC users (who have already debated the EU before) repeat the same arguments all over again. Frankly, most MHoC users just aren't very good at debating compared to other people who use the D&CA forums.
    I still don't see that as a good way of determining the panel.

    Perhaps all presenting different arguments or even random I prefer. Like I don't see why @dinoraptor wasn't nominated; he presented an entirely different analysis of the trade bloc.

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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Why should it be? This isn't a left/right issue, some left-leaning people want to leave the EU and vice versa.
    Because otherwise you don't cover all bases? As it is we will hear about all the lefty reasons and I expect little else. Why should only one part of the political spectrum be represented?

    You also seem to be saying " why should it be balanced? It isn't a left right issue, it should be balanced."

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because otherwise you don't cover all bases? As it is we will hear about all the lefty reasons and I expect little else. Why should only one part of the political spectrum be represented?

    You also seem to be saying " why should it be balanced? It isn't a left right issue, it should be balanced."

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    I just don't think one's political views are really that relevant to this debate. There's no reason why someone who is arguing for leave couldn't discuss both the left and right-wing arguments, regardless of whether they personally subscribe to them or not.
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    Yes, completely new thread to be created tomorrow!
    I don't think left and right is evenly balanced ...... And there is only one mhoc member for leave ?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    I don't think left and right is evenly balanced ...... And there is only one mhoc member for leave ?
    Being an MHoCer shouldn't matter.

    But yes, the right and left probably isn't too balanced. I'm sure we'll be fine though
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    And the remain Panel:
    PetrosAC
    RuWill2001
    Craig1998
    RayApparently

    And the panel on the Leave side:
    Cranbrook_aspie
    illegaltobepoor
    foo.mp3
    James813

    Let battle commence tomorrow. If you haven't been chosen, don't worry, as the audience you can still get heavily involved, and your questions might even come up in the debate!

    Thank you
    I'm not moaning- but I do think leave has an unfair advantage.

    Two of the leave panel are in their late twenties whilst most of the remain panel are barely 18 iirc.

    gladders
    L i b


    Any of you guys free for this?
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I'm not moaning- but I do think leave has an unfair advantage.

    Two of the leave panel are in their late twenties whilst most of the remain panel are barely 18 iirc.

    gladders
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    Any of you guys free for this?
    I assume you meant to copy in L i b?
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    I just don't think one's political views are really that relevant to this debate. There's no reason why someone who is arguing for leave couldn't discuss both the left and right-wing arguments, regardless of whether they personally subscribe to them or not.
    I really cannot say I trust a bunch of hard left people with utter contempt of right wing ideology to be able to make a thorough case.

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Being an MHoCer shouldn't matter.

    But yes, the right and left probably isn't too balanced. I'm sure we'll be fine though
    No Petros it is not fine , As usual TSR Favours people that are left wing 6/8 People on the panel are left wing ... i suggest adam9317 reconsiders the panel line up to make it more representative
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    No Petros it is not fine , As usual TSR Favours people that are left wing 6/8 People on the panel are left wing ... i suggest adam9317 reconsiders the panel line up to make it more representative
    And of those 6, 2 are greens and 2 are socialists

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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    No Petros it is not fine , As usual TSR Favours people that are left wing 6/8 People on the panel are left wing ... i suggest adam9317 reconsiders the panel line up to make it more representative
    There is little we can do now unfortunately... I am waiting to hear back from one of the brexiteers who hasn't yet replied, but should I not hear back by early afternoon, Mr Jammy Duel is the replacement
 
 
 
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