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    As many are of the opinion, Aye
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Yet another unprofessional response from you. You really shame the Government.
    lol
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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    You're expected to say "given". Have you not watched Elizabeth: The Golden Age?

    Anyway, I've voted with you.
    Nahh, not my genre

    Coolio

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    I feel obliged to warn fellow MPs that the current increase in government produce may be entirely related to this threat. It's a possibility worth considering.

    Regardless of this, I did second the MoNC so I shall vote aye.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    I feel obliged to warn fellow MPs that the current increase in government produce may be entirely related to this threat. It's a possibility worth considering.

    Regardless of this, I did second the MoNC so I shall vote aye.

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    I can have several members of the government back me up on this, the first draft of the statement i authored was written two weeks ago while i was employment sec. Id been busy irl as had most of the house which caused the delays.

    Thats not the point though, maybe the vonc was a kick up the arse, maybe it was needed. But aside from everything else weve only had under two months in government and i feel that we should at least be given a fair chance.

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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I can have several members of the government back me up on this, the first draft of the statement i authored was written two weeks ago while i was employment sec. Id been busy irl as had most of the house which caused the delays.

    Thats not the point though, maybe the vonc was a kick up the arse, maybe it was needed. But aside from everything else weve only had under two months in government and i feel that we should at least be given a fair chance.

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    Fair enough, that's why personally I would've waited a few weeks before submitting this.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    I feel obliged to warn fellow MPs that the current increase in government produce may be entirely related to this threat. It's a possibility worth considering.

    Regardless of this, I did second the MoNC so I shall vote aye.

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    Exams are over, could that possibly be what's lead to an output increase?
    Nah, it must be that they're panicking and rushing stuff out. If it were a panic you would expect a different structure and output

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Exams are over, could that possibly be what's lead to an output increase?
    Nah, it must be that they're panicking and rushing stuff out. If it were a panic you would expect a different structure and output

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    I'm just stating a possibility. The quality of the recent spike of output suggests they had a stockpile.

    Plus exams aren't over.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    I'm just stating a possibility. The quality of the recent spike of output suggests they had a stockpile.

    Plus exams aren't over.

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    Not all of us are still ickle little students still in compulsory education, rather a lot of the government are university or later

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not all of us are still ickle little students still in compulsory education, rather a lot of the government are university or later

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    Hey, I ain't in compulsory education

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    I feel obliged to warn fellow MPs that the current increase in government produce may be entirely related to this threat. It's a possibility worth considering.

    Regardless of this, I did second the MoNC so I shall vote aye.

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    You don't say… :rolleyes: Some people including yourself implied that seeing increased output would/could persuade them to reject the MoNC so we chose to make our output a priority and now more items are to come.

    It's a shame you've decided to vote against us because you seconded the motion rather than considering our current activity even though you claimed that you “felt it would serve as a kick up the ass, which seemed necessary; hopefully it has served it's purpose and output will pick up”.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    You don't say… :rolleyes: Some people including yourself implied that seeing increased output would/could persuade them to reject the MoNC so we chose to make our output a priority and now more items are to come.

    It's a shame you've decided to vote against us because you seconded the motion rather than considering our current activity even though you claimed that you “felt it would serve as a kick up the ass, which seemed necessary; hopefully it has served it's purpose and output will pick up”.
    I like seeing more output but I think the government needs to have a better procedure for quality control, if the standard of the recent statement of intents, bills, and reports are at the average level of quality for the government that is a ground to support the MoNC.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    You don't say… :rolleyes: Some people including yourself implied that seeing increased output would/could persuade them to reject the MoNC so we chose to make our output a priority and now more items are to come.

    It's a shame you've decided to vote against us because you seconded the motion rather than considering our current activity even though you claimed that you “felt it would serve as a kick up the ass, which seemed necessary; hopefully it has served it's purpose and output will pick up”.
    My earlier quote still stands, but like I say I did second this so I am somewhat obliged to vote aye.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    My earlier quote still stands, but like I say I did second this so I am somewhat obliged to vote aye.

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    Why?
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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Fair enough, that's why personally I would've waited a few weeks before submitting this.

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    Your moderation on this issue is appreciated. Perhaps there is a posssibility you could change your mind? You seem to be tacitly acknowledge that this vonc is far to early to be justified.

    With regards to your concerns that we're panic- legislating, we have threads full of drafts and counter drafts, and a google document of our general outline o government which is rough 20 pages long. We are probably the most structured and complex legislating body in the house. We just have been busy over exams, simple as.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Your moderation on this issue is appreciated. Perhaps there is a posssibility you could change your mind? You seem to be tacitly acknowledge that this vonc is far to early to be justified.

    With regards to your concerns that we're panic- legislating, we have threads full of drafts and counter drafts, and a google document of our general outline o government which is rough 20 pages long. We are probably the most structured and complex legislating body in the house. We just have been busy over exams, simple as.
    I do not want to start quoting your MPs back at you, but last term when things were taking a while the government was criticised for having lots of things in the government sub-forum to be submitted, lots of statement of intents were being finalised, and the budget was nearly completed, if what you say is true, there should have been a high quality statement of intent released this week to counter the MoNC, or high quality government bills; that did not happen.

    I have not voted agaisnt this MoNC because I think the government is competent, nor do I think this government is the most competent government that could be formed, however, I would rather live with a failing centre-right government than a left-wing government. The government has not done anything to prove itself, nor has the government shown the MHoC anything to suggest it is capable of proving itself, for lots of items that are meant to have been sitting in the government sub-forum for months, the government needs to learn how to submit things.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I do not want to start quoting your MPs back at you, but last term when things were taking a while the government was criticised for having lots of things in the government sub-forum to be submitted, lots of statement of intents were being finalised, and the budget was nearly completed, if what you say is true, there should have been a high quality statement of intent released this week to counter the MoNC, or high quality government bills; that did not happen.

    I have not voted agaisnt this MoNC because I think the government is competent, nor do I think this government is the most competent government that could be formed, however, I would rather live with a failing centre-right government than a left-wing government. The government has not done anything to prove itself, nor has the government shown the MHoC anything to suggest it is capable of proving itself, for lots of items that are meant to have been sitting in the government sub-forum for months, the government needs to learn how to submit things.
    We're selective, and also busy. For example, i have no idea whats going on as i can only just now spend time on tsr to do do anything but occasionally post places and vote. But theres a lot bubbling underneath.

    Tbh, in my time in government, i have seen competent parties, but never a competent government. The greens/ukip/liberals was particularly horrendous.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Why?
    Mobbsy, I am a man of limited principles, but there are still some there. One of which is voting aye if I have seconded the item.

    (Original post by banterboy)
    Your moderation on this issue is appreciated. Perhaps there is a posssibility you could change your mind? You seem to be tacitly acknowledge that this vonc is far to early to be justified.

    With regards to your concerns that we're panic- legislating, we have threads full of drafts and counter drafts, and a google document of our general outline o government which is rough 20 pages long. We are probably the most structured and complex legislating body in the house. We just have been busy over exams, simple as.
    With it being a closed poll I'm not sure anything could be done if I was to change my mind. Although if I was to vote in accordance with my true feeling, I would likely abstain.

    Like I say, the quality and quantity did suggest there was a stockpile of some sort.

    (Original post by banterboy)
    We're selective, and also busy. For example, i have no idea whats going on as i can only just now spend time on tsr to do do anything but occasionally post places and vote. But theres a lot bubbling underneath.

    Tbh, in my time in government, i have seen competent parties, but never a competent government. The greens/ukip/liberals was particularly horrendous.
    I must admit, it was awful

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Mobbsy, I am a man of limited principles, but there are still some there. One of which is voting aye if I have seconded the item.



    With it being a closed poll I'm not sure anything could be done if I was to change my mind. Although if I was to vote in accordance with my true feeling, I would likely abstain.

    Like I say, the quality and quantity did suggest there was a stockpile of some sort.



    I must admit, it was awful

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    Could you not as the speaker to change it? Or at least take note of that decision and change the vote after the poll?
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Could you not as the speaker to change it? Or at least take note of that decision and change the vote after the poll?
    Actually, good idea, I didn't think of that.

    Mr Speaker, I know you're getting sick of me making these requests, but can you please change my aye to abstain? Thanks

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