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    Jeremy Corbyn
    479
    46.10%
    Tom Watson
    43
    4.14%
    Angela Eagle
    62
    5.97%
    Hilary Benn
    90
    8.66%
    Yvette Cooper
    51
    4.91%
    Andy Burnham
    76
    7.31%
    Dan Jarvis
    38
    3.66%
    Someone else
    200
    19.25%

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    If there is another leadership ballot, I will be voting Corbyn again.
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    I highly rate Corbyn. He is kind of an old Labour-type politician. He has very strong views about many things. However, he has to appear moderate for the liberals in his party.

    Since he won his leadership contest, he has been hunted by those people, who hate him and want the continuation of the status quo. I very much hope that he would win this challenge and continue as leader.
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    BREAKING NEWS : Angela Eagle is expected to announce her candidacy for Labour Leader tomorrow.

    Personally I don't find her charismatic at all.


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    (Original post by Asklepios)
    If there is another leadership ballot, I will be voting Corbyn again.
    I'm guessing you are another Tory hungry for a landslide victory at the next election
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    (Original post by MrJAKEE)
    BREAKING NEWS : Angela Eagle is expected to announce her candidacy for Labour Leader tomorrow.

    Personally I don't find her charismatic at all.


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    She doesn't stand a chance of winning.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    The leader that they have already is the best one to move them forwards.

    The people trying to push him out are largely blairites who are soft tories


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    Completely delusional on both points.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    Oh yes, but I was responding to a suggestion that the Tory party could be sabotaged by secret labourites backing IDS. He's clearly not quite a Corbyn-level disaster.
    Sadly, people have missed the deadline to get a vote in the Tory contest.

    Otherwise 100,000 or so people could have got a lot of value out of their few quid (if they're under 23!)
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    I deliberately said the other Miliband. The one who's in his New York office with his head in his hands, no doubt. The one who should have got the job time before last
    It was an open goal for Labour and they missed it. He'd have had a good chance of winning the last GE, which Ed never had a prayer of ever doing. How the party didn't see this was disappointing. You've got to question the judgment of the party as a collective when they nominate as leader somebody un-electable. They then went and did it again with Corbyn but even more so.

    This is why I worry this time round. I could only conclude that the party doesn't have their finger on the pulse at all regarding what the public want. That there is now this coup is promising but for them to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public they must elect one of the following (provided of course they're running):

    Dan Jarvis - you want to win an election, don't you?

    Hilary Benn - his speech regarding the Syria vote probably lost him support among Momentum types forever. But for the public it was a winner

    David Milliband - big time statesman. Prime Ministerial

    If any one of the above three are running and they elect somebody else, they are completely finished in the eyes of the electorate. Unfortunately signs point to none of them running (and neither will Chukka, who would be a good, plausible alternative), which means they'll have to settle for a stop gap until somebody worthy of the name decides to ascend.
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    Angela Eagle is running... is this some sort of a ****ing joke?!? The Tories must be laughing. At a time of crisis like this, Labour should be electing an absolute bruiser as their leader.
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    (Original post by TheGuyReturns)
    Angela Eagle is running... is this some sort of a ****ing joke?!? The Tories must be laughing. At a time of crisis like this, Labour should be electing an absolute bruiser as their leader.
    I suspect there are some in the PLP who think that a gay woman is the best chance the party has of winning over grassroots support. It somewhat redeems her of her Blairite credentials in their eyes.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    It was an open goal for Labour and they missed it. He'd have had a good chance of winning the last GE, which Ed never had a prayer of ever doing. How the party didn't see this was disappointing. You've got to question the judgment of the party as a collective when they nominate as leader somebody un-electable. They then went and did it again with Corbyn but even more so.

    This is why I worry this time round. I could only conclude that the party doesn't have their finger on the pulse at all regarding what the public want. That there is now this coup is promising but for them to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public they must elect one of the following (provided of course they're running):

    Dan Jarvis - you want to win an election, don't you?

    Hilary Benn - his speech regarding the Syria vote probably lost him support among Momentum types forever. But for the public it was a winner

    David Milliband - big time statesman. Prime Ministerial

    If any one of the above three are running and they elect somebody else, they are completely finished in the eyes of the electorate. Unfortunately signs point to none of them running (and neither will Chukka, who would be a good, plausible alternative), which means they'll have to settle for a stop gap until somebody worthy of the name decides to ascend.
    Pretty much.

    The party is letting the few hardcore activists set the agenda - and it's an agenda the rest of the country doesn't want.

    Whether they can't see this or don't want to see this, I'm not sure.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Pretty much.

    The party is letting the few hardcore activists set the agenda - and it's an agenda the rest of the country doesn't want.

    Whether they can't see this or don't want to see this, I'm not sure.
    The whole point of Corbyn winning was that a majority of members voted for him. This isn't a matter of a minority governing the rest. That's sort of why we have elections.
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    (Original post by TheGuyReturns)
    Angela Eagle is running... is this some sort of a ****ing joke?!? The Tories must be laughing. At a time of crisis like this, Labour should be electing an absolute bruiser as their leader.
    She's actually pretty good in Parliament - she ripped the hell out of George Osborne a while back when he was standing in for Dave - never seen him squirm so much.
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    (Original post by Fenice)
    I'm guessing you are another Tory hungry for a landslide victory at the next election
    No I'd just rather an actual socialist PM to a fake closet Tory that most of the so-called Blairites aspire to.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    She's actually pretty good in Parliament - she ripped the hell out of George Osborne a while back when he was standing in for Dave - never seen him squirm so much.
    It would be a close run thing to see her debating Nicola Sturgeon.

    Though last time I checked, eagles were above sturgeons in the food chain.
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    (Original post by Asklepios)
    No I'd just rather an actual socialist PM to a fake closet Tory that most of the so-called Blairites aspire to.
    A vote for Corbyn is a vote for Boris Johnson and his pack of wolves advancing over the hills.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    She's actually pretty good in Parliament - she ripped the hell out of George Osborne a while back when he was standing in for Dave - never seen him squirm so much.
    She's not that bad to be fair. However:

    "In April 2008 Eagle took part in a debate in Parliament on the UK economy in which the Liberal Democrats tabled a motion suggesting that the country was facing an "extreme bubble in the housing market" and the "risk of recession". Eagle responded stating "Fortunately for all of us ... that colourful and lurid fiction has no real bearing on the macro-economic reality."[5]

    In 2009 Jeremy Browne, who led the debate, reflected on her comments, stating "A year ago, Angela Eagle’s comments summed up the Government's delusional attitude"

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    (Original post by Fenice)
    A vote for Corbyn is a vote for Boris Johnson and his pack of wolves advancing over the hills.
    No it's a vote to bring Corbyn closer to no 10.


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    (Original post by Asklepios)
    No it's a vote to bring Corbyn closer to no 10.


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    Corbyn is never going to get anywhere close to No 10. All you are doing by supporting him is giving the next Tory leader easy pickings and it will probably result in the largest Tory majority since 1983.
 
 
 
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