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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Yes, as money does not grow on trees, every £ being spent on a migrant is a £ taken away somewhere, could be from the NHS, could be from mental health services (perhaps someone will commit suicide), could come a variety of areas. There is no good reason at all for any migrant to come here, which is why I have my personal policy of the UK should take zero migrants.
    In op's question the hypothetical Syrian is guaranteed to die if they do not come here. I find it very very unlikely them coming here would lead to the death of a child on the NHS.
    And if they were also guaranteed to die in this hypothetical situation, given money was taken from the NHS, then obviously the best option would be for money required to be taken from a sector in which lives are not at risk.

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    (Original post by RobML)
    In op's question the hypothetical Syrian is guaranteed to die if they do not come here. I find it very very unlikely them coming here would lead to the death of a child on the NHS.
    And if they were also guaranteed to die in this hypothetical situation, given money was taken from the NHS, then obviously the best option would be for money required to be taken from a sector in which lives are not at risk.

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    On side note, you do realise that the UK is in a lot of debt yes? A debt as a result of a government deficit, which is adding to the debt every year. In general this country needs to stop spending a lot of money we already pay out, adding more people into the country who will not add into the system is just making things worse. The vast majority of all migrants entering the UK are costing the country money, it has to stop.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    On side note, you do realise that the UK is in a lot of debt yes? A debt as a result of a government deficit, which is adding to the debt every year. In general this country needs to stop spending a lot of money we already pay out, adding more people into the country who will not add into the system is just making things worse. The vast majority of all migrants entering the UK are costing the country money, it has to stop.
    Money that could be spent on the NHS less important things than people's livelihood all the time. Perhaps you should complain about that before targeting migrants?

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    (Original post by RobML)
    Money that could be spent on the NHS less important things than people's livelihood all the time. Perhaps you should complain about that before targeting migrants?

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    Huh? I don't understand your message.

    The UK is slowly becoming bankrupt, in part due to the large numbers of migrants working here. What do you think all of the people who claim welfare in this country are going to do with the nation becomes bankrupt and can no longer pay such welfare payments? Adding even more migrants that are going to take from the system is only going to make the problem worse.
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    (Original post by Playmaker#10)
    Are you a moron? So you're saying that the United Kingdom should take in Millions of refugees because we are trying to destroy a terrorist group that kills more people than any air-strike the US has ever dropped.
    Um, wasnt it the US who dropped a bomb in hiroshima?? There was what, 80 000 deaths alone caused by that incident. That's a lot.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Huh? I don't understand your message.

    The UK is slowly becoming bankrupt, in part due to the large numbers of migrants working here. What do you think all of the people who claim welfare in this country are going to do with the nation becomes bankrupt and can no longer pay such welfare payments? Adding even more migrants that are going to take from the system is only going to make the problem worse.
    Not really. Migrants put more into the tax system than they take out.

    It is not as if people like you really care about the economic system when you voted for a recession and cuts.
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    The government needs to invest in a stronger military, and post soldiers along the UK border ready to shoot these savage "refugees" on sight.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Not really. Migrants put more into the tax system than they take out.

    It is not as if people like you really care about the economic system when you voted for a recession and cuts.
    That is simply not true, you are referring to a child like model that looks at all migrants together and simply looks at benefits taken out and taxes paid in.

    A tax payer needs to earn something like £26,000 a year just to brake even with the government, where their taxes pay for their hare of policing costs etc.

    The vast vast vast majority of migrants do not earn that figure. A migrant who earns £14,000 a year, doesn't reive benefits and only pays about £100 a year in taxes is not benefiting the country, they are still a loss, however in the child model / stats that leftists refer to, this worker would appear as a benefit.

    As I said, most migrants take out, importing even more migrants from Germany or Turkey (wherever they are from) is lunacy.
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    (Original post by stevey396)
    The government needs to invest in a stronger military, and post soldiers along the UK border ready to shoot these savage "refugees" on sight.
    Calm down Adolf..
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    (Original post by oShahpo)
    I am not "anti-refugee" per se, but the alternative to refugees not coming to Britain is not them dying, rather going to other nearby countries where they would feel more welcome, and where their principles might not be in opposition to that of the general population.
    Agreed. I'm also not anti-refugee. Besides, we need to stop this endless cycle of people being displaced from their homes by resolving the conflict instead of letting it happen.
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    (Original post by Adamski191)
    Agreed. I'm also not anti-refugee. Besides, we need to stop this endless cycle of people being displaced from their homes by resolving the conflict instead of letting it happen.
    Or make them sort it out themselves like we had to.
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    (Original post by snikerio)
    i feel like you would be better suited to the womb

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    Wow, a new account that makes insults, You are so very smart, you know how to make personal attacks, great way to win an argument.
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    In all honesty the answer is yes. These are some of the least educated and deprived people in the world and an ethno-cultural threat to boot.

    I do care about their welfare (they are human) and would support the west annexing Syria provided we had a proper post-invasion plan but in terms of allowing them to pollute Europe, no.

    If you see a beggar on the street you may give him a pound but you don't let him come into your home.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Wow, a new account that makes insults, You are so very smart, you know how to make personal attacks, great way to win an argument.
    thanks i could teach you if you wanted

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    Yes.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    That is simply not true, you are referring to a child like model that looks at all migrants together and simply looks at benefits taken out and taxes paid in.

    A tax payer needs to earn something like £26,000 a year just to brake even with the government, where their taxes pay for their hare of policing costs etc.

    The vast vast vast majority of migrants do not earn that figure. A migrant who earns £14,000 a year, doesn't reive benefits and only pays about £100 a year in taxes is not benefiting the country, they are still a loss, however in the child model / stats that leftists refer to, this worker would appear as a benefit.

    As I said, most migrants take out, importing even more migrants from Germany or Turkey (wherever they are from) is lunacy.
    £26000? Sounds like you are just making up figures.

    Even ignoring that issue, the average migrant earns £15 an hour which places them at £31000.

    Having said that, there is a place for low cost immigration because companies can be profitable and that will obviously lead to an increased tax revenue. The concept that everyone needs to be paid 26000 to break even is absurd.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    £26000? Sounds like you are just making up figures.

    Even ignoring that issue, the average migrant earns £15 an hour which places them at £31000.

    Having said that, there is a place for low cost immigration because companies can be profitable and that will obviously lead to an increased tax revenue. The concept that everyone needs to be paid 26000 to break even is absurd.
    It is a proven figure, and I am calling BS on your £31,000 figure. I would like you to prove it.

    Also I have noticed that you are talking averages, whilst I am referring to most in numerical terms, using your average, 1 guy could earn £10 million a year and boost up the average of 99 other migrants. Still, I'm calling bs on your average salary of £31000 of migrants, If that was the case they would be making the UK money (which other graphs have shown that they do not).

    Most leftists make up figures and selectivity pick out figures regarding immigration (like you right now), as they know that to tell the truth would be to admit that their policies are bankrupting the nation.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    In all honesty the answer is yes. These are some of the least educated and deprived people in the world and an ethno-cultural threat to boot.

    I do care about their welfare(they are human) and would support the west annexing Syria provided we had a proper post-invasion plan but in terms of allowing them to pollute Europe, no.

    If you see a beggar on the street you may give him a pound but you don't let him come into your home.
    Clearly you don't.

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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    £26000? Sounds like you are just making up figures.

    Even ignoring that issue, the average migrant earns £15 an hour which places them at £31000.

    Having said that, there is a place for low cost immigration because companies can be profitable and that will obviously lead to an increased tax revenue. The concept that everyone needs to be paid 26000 to break even is absurd.
    It is actually £27,000

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...-get-back.html
    But like most leftists, don't let facts get in your way.
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    (Original post by RobML)
    Clearly you don't.

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    Well anyone who wants "refugees" to come to the West doesn't care about their welfare.
 
 
 
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