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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I don't think he will to be truthful, the last thing the world needs is Trump parading around running his mouth causing problems with all sorts of world leaders and further legitimising racism and islamophobia.
    Absolutely.

    But honestly, it just seems to me that a significant part of the US consists of people that hold similar ideologies to his (or to the one he's portraying during his candidacy). And until now, those people's voices have been stifled. But since he began his campaign, they've felt empowered by it and now feel confident to outwardly express their views. Sort of like mob mentality.

    I may be wrong, but seems like that to me. Hopefully that portion of the population doesn't win out when voting begins.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    I never said that?

    I was talking about the terrorist attacks...
    Terrorist attacks have always happened though...
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Terrorist attacks have always happened though...
    So whats your point? I said its a *sign* of Judgement Day. It doesn't mean Judgement Day is going to necessarily happen today, tomorrow, or anytime soon... None of us Muslims know when it will happen...
    If you have anymore questions about Islam and Judgement Day feel free to educate yourself by Googling it...
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    All the regulars of ISOC (so excluding the dupes and trolls) would condemn it.

    I personally don't think it is solely about Islam nor solely about politics but a disastrous mixture between the two.
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    These terrorists do not follow the same religion as Islam, or at least they follow a totally different "version" of the faith.

    The vast majority of Muslims are lovely people, who would be just as sickened by these disgusting inhumane acts as anyone else. I refuse to believe that terrorists follow the same religion.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Dear Muslim Community of TSR

    Following the events of the Nice terror attack, I'm wondering how you all feel whenever you hear or see on the news about a terrorist attack happening somewhere in the world, especially, but not limited to, the western world. I know the vast majority of muslims (both on TSR and irl) are peaceful and wish to just get on with their lives without being stereotyped as a terrorist or ISIS nut.

    If you are muslim and reading this please post below, I would very much appreciate it.

    Just to make it clear I do not associate muslims with terrorism and I don't want this thread to turn into a hate debate. I just want honest thoughts and reactions

    Have you ever experienced Islamophobia because of terrorist attacks happening personally? That is what I'm trying to get at here.
    Hiya , I'm disgusted, by all these terrorist attacks, including yesterday's in Nice. They are low, and they are the unnecessary killing of many innocent people. I wish people could just live their life without demeaning any religion or group of people.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    So whats your point? I said its a *sign* of Judgement Day. It doesn't mean Judgement Day is going to necessarily happen today, tomorrow, or anytime soon... None of us Muslims know when it will happen...
    If you have anymore questions about Islam and Judgement Day feel free to educate yourself by Googling it...
    Nonsense, that makes no sense. If one says it's a sign of an oncoming event then by definition it means it's imminent. It is meaningless to say something's a sign of a future event if that event isn't going to happen for centuries or millennia.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Nonsense, that makes no sense. If one says it's a sign of an oncoming event then by definition it means it's imminent. It is meaningless to say something's a sign of a future event if that event isn't going to happen for centuries or millennia.
    OK. I respect your opinion and hope you do the same back. I came here to share my opinion not to debate my religion with other people. I've done way too much of that on TSR (pointless when it wont even change their opinions really) and it's getting tiring to be honest. Have a good day!!!
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    OK. I respect your opinion and hope you do the same back. I came here to share my opinion not to debate my religion with other people. I've done way too much of that on TSR (pointless when it wont even change their opinions really) and it's getting tiring to be honest. Have a good day!!!
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I assume you mean the French authorities automatically categorising it as terrorism instead of a lone wolf rampage? Yes, I agree, we don't even know the suspects name and yet people have already decided that he's a muslim
    Hmmm, I said they because I'm not sure who to "blame" for saying it was Muslims, it could be the French authority, maybe the media. Who knows? :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Reformed)
    you have tobe honest im sure its the first thought amoung muslims too when something happens. its inevetable given the uncontrollled spread of political islam
    Well...to me, the first thought as soon as I hear a negative incident is "Will the news channels have spread the fact that a 'Muslim' has done this?!" or "have they started blaming Muslims yet?". Islam isn't politics.
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    (Original post by Filler)
    u cute
    Thanks? Lol
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    1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
    2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
    3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
    4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.
    5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
    6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
    7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
    8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
    9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
    10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.
    Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”
    In other words, the Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell– quite the opposite.
    When speaking of the 7th-century situation in the Muslim city-state of Medina, which was at war with pagan Mecca, the Quran notes that the polytheists and some Arabian Jewish tribes were opposed to Islam, but then goes on to say:
    5:82. ” . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers [Muslims] those who say: ‘We are Christians.’ That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.”
    So the Quran not only does not urge Muslims to commit violence against Christians, it calls them “nearest in love” to the Muslims! The reason given is their piety, their ability to produce holy persons dedicated to God, and their lack of overweening pride.


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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    Thanks? Lol
    Whats yor snapchat
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    OK. I respect your opinion and hope you do the same back. I came here to share my opinion not to debate my religion with other people. I've done way too much of that on TSR (pointless when it wont even change their opinions really) and it's getting tiring to be honest. Have a good day!!!
    Fair enough, you too
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    (Original post by Filler)
    Whats yor snapchat
    Why would I give you my snapchat?
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    Why would I give you my snapchat?
    To chat (:
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    (Original post by Filler)
    To chat (:
    I don't necessarily like to give away personal social media on TSR. If you want to "chat" feel free to PM me - otherwise, this is derailing from the OP's topic of discussion so if you want peoples social media this isn't the right thread to ask on.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    I don't necessarily like to give away personal social media on TSR. If you want to "chat" feel free to PM me - otherwise, this is derailing from the OP's topic of discussion so if you want peoples social media this isn't the right thread to ask on.
    Oh sorry. i thought you were really cute so I thought I'd just ask you on here. But you can PM me too (:
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    There's no difference. It's like as if your saying all the Muslim people are terrorists. I mean i'm sure they would feel the same way as everyone else.
 
 
 
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