Why abortion should be illegal

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    (Original post by venetiaan)
    If a woman is not allowed to have an abortion mean shouldnt be allowed to leave them. They play a part on making the baby as well and they should have responsibilities.
    But the current system is quite unfair; a woman can have an abortion but a man will be at least financially tied to the child.

    (Original post by venetiaan)
    Also even if abortions became illegal women would still find ways. It's just that many of them woukd die in the proccess. Is tgat what you wiuld want?
    Just because people will still do something it doesn't mean it should be legal. Rape and murder is illegal yet people still rape and murder so shall we legalise that?




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    (Original post by #ChaosKass)
    Abstinence is the way to go. If you don't want a baby then why on Earth are you having sex?
    The middle ages called..
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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    But the current system is quite unfair; a woman can have an abortion but a man will be at least financially tied to the child.



    Just because people will still do something it doesn't mean it should be legal. Rape and murder is illegal yet people still rape and murder so shall we legalise that?




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    And yet many men leave and never pay a penny.
    I think they both the man and the woman should sit down and talk about things thouroughly. In the end though it is the womans choice cause in most cases she's is the one who will sacrifice the mist for the child.
    And there are cases when the couple agrees they do not want a child. Why should they be forced to keep it?

    Are seriously comparing rape and murder to abortion?
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    Just for the record, I am a woman and I agree with the OP. It's not just men who are anti-abortion, you know
    so if you'd been raped at 15 you wouldn't have even considered a termination?*

    Of course I'm not saying abortions only happen in extreme circumstances and I'm not condoning women using them as some twisted form of contraception (which I don't think they are, as I've heard abortions are quite painful and traumatic even early on) - I just don't understand how you can be against something which basically gives women a right over their own bodies and lives. *
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    (Original post by LavenderBlueSky88)
    so if you'd been raped at 15 you wouldn't have even considered a termination?*

    Of course I'm not saying abortions only happen in extreme circumstances and I'm not condoning women using them as some twisted form of contraception (which I don't think they are, as I've heard abortions are quite painful and traumatic even early on) - I just don't understand how you can be against something which basically gives women a right over their own bodies and lives. *
    At 15 I probably would have done as I didn't hold considerably strong christian viewpoints then. Now however, I've changed quite a lot so if I got raped now I wouldn't. One survey found that less than 0.1% of abortions are due to rape which means that the vast majority of abortion is done for non medical reasons
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    At 15 I probably would have done as I didn't hold considerably strong christian viewpoints then. Now however, I've changed quite a lot so if I got raped now I wouldn't. One survey found that less than 0.1% of abortions are due to rape which means that the vast majority of abortion is done for non medical reasons
    ah makes sense*
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    (Original post by venetiaan)
    And yet many men leave and never pay a penny.
    I think they both the man and the woman should sit down and talk about things thouroughly. In the end though it is the womans choice cause in most cases she's is the one who will sacrifice the mist for the child.
    And there are cases when the couple agrees they do not want a child. Why should they be forced to keep it?
    A minority of men, if a woman knows who the father is she can make him pay. So a woman should be able to choose to bail out (have an abortion) after conception but a man is left with no say after conception even though having a child will impact both? That's hardly fair.

    (Original post by venetiaan)
    Are seriously comparing rape and murder to abortion?
    No, I'm saying that just because people will still do something when it's illegal that doesn't mean it should be legalised.


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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    A minority of men, if a woman knows who the father is she can make him pay. So a woman should be able to choose to bail out (have an abortion) after conception but a man is left with no say after conception even though having a child will impact both? That's hardly fair.



    No, I'm saying that just because people will still do something when it's illegal that doesn't mean it should be legalised.


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    Are we talking about Britain or other countries as well. Cause tbh I don't know how much men can get away with not paying in the uk but a lot of **** happens in my country. Many men don't pay anything.
    Even if they pay men still bail out. The fact that the pay something does not mean much. The woman is the one who has to give up more things in order to raise the child. She might not want it, she might have a career in mind. The fact that she gets some money from the father does not make it all okay. If the man is willing to raise the child on his own like so many women do then the couple should consider it. But don't forget that it's the woman that will carry the baby for 9 months and it's her life that will be affected during these months.Abortion doesn't have to be legalized,it's already legal. And what you said does not make sense. Yes not everything that people do should be legal but abortion is not one of those things. If you make raping legal the world will go insane. The only thing that happens when abortion is legal is that the proccess is safer for women that would do it anyway, less children are in foster care and less children grow up with parents that don't want them and see them as a burden.
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    (Original post by venetiaan)
    Are we talking about Britain or other countries as well. Cause tbh I don't know how much men can get away with not paying in the uk but a lot of **** happens in my country. Many men don't pay anything.
    Even if they pay men still bail out. The fact that the pay something does not mean much. The woman is the one who has to give up more things in order to raise the child. She might not want it, she might have a career in mind. The fact that she gets some money from the father does not make it all okay. If the man is willing to raise the child on his own like so many women do then the couple should consider it. But don't forget that it's the woman that will carry the baby for 9 months and it's her life that will be affected during these months.
    I'm talking about the UK as I don't know where you live. I don't understand what point you're trying to make, is that your way of justifying why women can change their mind after conception and men can't?

    (Original post by venetiaan)
    Abortion doesn't have to be legalized,it's already legal. And what you said does not make sense. Yes not everything that people do should be legal but abortion is not one of those things. If you make raping legal the world will go insane. The only thing that happens when abortion is legal is that the proccess is safer for women that would do it anyway, less children are in foster care and less children grow up with parents that don't want them and see them as a burden.
    I'm aware that it's already legal thanks. You do realise there are people that think having legalised abortions has a negative impact on society? Aside from that the point remains true that 'people would still do it anyway' isn't a reason to make something legal/not make it illegal


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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    I'm talking about the UK as I don't know where you live. I don't understand what point you're trying to make, is that your way of justifying why women can change their mind after conception and men can't?



    I'm aware that it's already legal thanks. You do realise there are people that think having legalised abortions has a negative impact on society? Aside from that the point remains true that 'people would still do it anyway' isn't a reason to make something legal/not make it illegal


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    The point I'm trying to make is that women should have the option of not raising a child (and not having it in the first place). Men can choose to leave and never even meet the baby in some occasions. Whether or not the give money to the mother they have a second chance to study,have a successful career etc. Unless the woman had very supportive parents or gives the baby up for adoption she doesn't have that chance.Most abortions are performed on teenage girls and women in their 20s. I doubt that the pregnancy was planned or wanted in the first place so no one really changes their mind after conception. I do realise that some people thing they have a negative impact and I also do believe that the greatest solution is prevention but people make mistakes and contraceptive methods often fail. I think that two people's lives should be destroyd because they were stupid at 16.I also think it's safer for abortions to be legal than women to turn to dangerous methods. Furthermore, abortions are not an easy proccess and I doubt that the majority of women take them lightly.
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    (Original post by venetiaan)
    The point I'm trying to make is that women should have the option of not raising a child (and not having it in the first place). Men can choose to leave and never even meet the baby in some occasions. Whether or not the give money to the mother they have a second chance to study,have a successful career etc. Unless the woman had very supportive parents or gives the baby up for adoption she doesn't have that chance.
    Women do have a choice, they can use contraception. Men also have that choice but after sex men are powerless, that's clearly an unfair system. My argument isn't that women shouldn't be able to have abortions, I just think men should also have the choice to go back on their decision/bail out on their mistake (crudely put but that's essentially what abortion is).

    (Original post by venetiaan)
    Most abortions are performed on teenage girls and women in their 20s. I doubt that the pregnancy was planned or wanted in the first place so no one really changes their mind after conception. I do realise that some people thing they have a negative impact and I also do believe that the greatest solution is prevention but people make mistakes and contraceptive methods often fail. I think that two people's lives should be destroyd because they were stupid at 16.I also think it's safer for abortions to be legal than women to turn to dangerous methods. Furthermore, abortions are not an easy proccess and I doubt that the majority of women take them lightly.
    Perhaps change their mind was a poor choice of phrase, women can reverse the mistake of their carelessness whereas men can't. Contraception doesn't 'often' fail, in fact it very rarely fails. Most forms of contraception are over 90% effective. Realistically if you use a condom and the woman is on the pill or has an implant the chances of conception are incredibly slim.

    I agree that abortion should be an available option but the fact that people will do it anyway isn't a valid reason. In my view their isn't much of a reason to allow or ban abortions, thus I think it should be allowed.




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    (Original post by ihatePE)
    what people do with their body is none of my concern tbh, the fetus is still part of their body.
    What is meant by "part?"
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    (Original post by Tabstercat)
    The middle ages called..
    As did ancient sparta
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    it shouldn't be illegal and here's why
    once the state bans something
    it will go underground
    and then you have women dying thanks to botched abortions all the time
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    At the end of the day, abortion is a woman's personal decision. If you wouldn't want it for yourself, then fine. Just don't take that right away from women who want/need it. Another woman's choice to have an abortion doesn't affect you, you don't tell her how to dress, what to eat, who she socialises with, don't tell her what to do with her own bunch of growing cells. You don't force your religion on to others, don't force your personal abortion beliefs onto others. Personally, I think it's safer and better for abortion to stay legal. If someone wants/needs one and it's illegal, they'll find a way to get one regardless. This won't be safe. I think it's way worse to birth a severely ill child that will only endure a short life of suffering than to abort it before it's even conscious. And don't try to tell me fetuses have emotions and are conscious in the womb because I damn sure don't have any memories of my time as a bundle of cells and I'm sure none of you do either.

    As for contraception, these things fail sometimes. And if you can bring yourself to spill your "children" in a condom, use the pill to stop yourself getting pregnant (because God surely intended us to play God with our bodies?) and take a morning after pill, I don't see why you draw the line at abortion? Especially very early stage abortion?
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    (Original post by jamesthehustler)
    it shouldn't be illegal and here's why
    once the state bans something
    it will go underground
    and then you have women dying thanks to botched abortions all the time
    Then you punish those who are committing crimes. You can't simply say something has to be legal because people will do it anyway


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    (Original post by xSailorMoonQueen)
    In my opinion it should only be legal if the woman was raped or if her life is at danger.
    Why do you think you get to tell women what not to do?
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    (Original post by NUSTweb)
    It's clear murder and killing of a human....
    and as God said in Quran...killing one innocent is like killing whole humanity...
    and also Allah told that Allah gives provisions so one should not kill children with fear of hunger because Allah makes way out......
    Arabs used to bury little girls alive because they considered them useless and a burden and God forbade them to do...and the Prophet (PBUH) called them a mercy and gave glad tidings to the parents who take care and teach 2 daughters
    Good job then that sane people don't care what was written in books over a millennia old.
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    (Original post by #ChaosKass)
    Abortion is completely immoral. Just think of the number of potential Einsteins, Churchills etc that have been murdered in the name of "right to choice".
    What a completely nonsensical argument.

    The next logical step is to say humans should **** like rabbits, because by not having 10 more children you deprive the world of the chance of the next 10 Einsteins.

    Oh an Churchill was a racist, sexist pig.
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    (Original post by #ChaosKass)
    Abstinence is the way to go. If you don't want a baby then why on Earth are you having sex?
    Quite right, that's why I **** my gf in the ass.
 
 
 
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