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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Lol such an intellectual response, Neil Degrasse Tyson one of the most famous and well respected Physicists in the world and you go "nah not going to take this guy seriously". Hell I don't think you even bothered to watch the video so why don't you go listen to what he has to say and come back when you seriously want to claim that this man who is probably several times smarter than you is wrong.
    Believe what you want.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    https://youtu.be/uyCxrL9-C84?t=3m57s
    The rise of Islam in the middle east very much spelled the death of scientific advancements there, and they haven't recovered since.
    And here is that one person who think that Youtube and probably even Facebook are good sources. If you would use this on a school exam, you would fail immediately.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Lol such an intellectual response, Neil Degrasse Tyson one of the most famous and well respected Physicists in the world and you go "nah not going to take this guy seriously". Hell I don't think you even bothered to watch the video so why don't you go listen to what he has to say and come back when you seriously want to claim that this man who is probably several times smarter than you is wrong.
    Except Gazhali said no such thing afaik. I could be wrong but find the reference to prove it. He's a smart guy but Tyson got it wrong here.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    Believe what you want.
    You're kidding right? That's the weakest cop out I've ever seen haha, you know you've won when you get a religitard tier level of response.
    (Original post by Metalfros)
    And here is that one person who think that Youtube and probably even Facebook are good sources. If you would use this on a school exam, you would fail immediately.
    *Sees video* "Nah not good source because I said so"
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    Except Gazhali said no such thing afaik. I could be wrong but find the reference to prove it. He's a smart guy but Tyson got it wrong here.
    Prove he didn't say it.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    I think you'll find that this is a myth and is completely incorrect.
    "A myth and completely incorrect"?

    Your dishonesty is boundless.

    There were thriving civilisations in Arabia Felix, Egypt, or Iraq before Islam. You cannot argue with that.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    "A myth and completely incorrect"?

    Your dishonesty is boundless.

    There were thriving civilisations in Arabia Felix, Egypt, or Iraq before Islam. You cannot argue with that.
    Of course there were. For most of history the world's greatest civilizations have had their hearts in the East - this was true prior to the foundation of Islam and was true after the foundation of Islam. Civilizations flourished under Islam and perished under Islam, I don't understand where I've been dishonest.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    You're kidding right? That's the weakest cop out I've ever seen haha, you know you've won when you get a religitard tier level of response.
    *Sees video* "Nah not good source because I said so"
    Prove he didn't say it.
    "Appeal to ignorance".
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    This is coming from an atheists perspective:
    I absoultely disagree with other atheist who mock religious people just because they don't agree with them. No I'm not a fan of religion myself but I don't mock those who choose to follow it.
    I've heard things like "religion is like fairy tales" and "If I don't believe in santa, why would I believe in god"
    These are incredibly ignorant and biased. I know there's alot of us vs them mentality between atheist and theists but I do not agree with any religion basher.
    Then you are not an atheist, but a mere agnostic.
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    As far as I see it, its all down to people rather than beliefs. Many have killed in the name of religion, but so have they more so many other reasons. Faith in Theism has brought many people comfort, meaning and happiness as well as atheism has. Both sides have literally the same groups of people: those who want to convert and/or condescend others for their differing beliefs, and those who are just happy to believe what they want and let others do the same. No Anti - Theist vs Theist argument can ever be settled indefinitely as neither side will ever understand everything and be able to provide a argument or theory that does not have flaws.
    In my view, there will always be questions that neither side can answer so its really a decision as to where you place your faith. Unless someone knows everything about everything and even then know WHY everything is the way that it is, then they have no right to condescend others for their beliefs, as there are convincing arguments on both sides. Either that if you don't want to then be agnostic.
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    (Original post by Kyx)
    Then you are not an atheist, but a mere agnostic.
    Lol you alright JP? It's me maths boy:p:mmm:
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    (Original post by StudentInSociety)
    Charities don't pay tax either so long as the money is used for Charitable purposes. The church is recognised as a charity.
    I mean, that's all well and good but so is the University of Dundee. Being registered as a charity doesn't necessarily entail actually being charitable.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    To be honest, I have a little giggle at religion because I find a lot of it silly, but I don't mock people or imply that they're less intelligent because they're religious. For some people it's a source of immense comfort, and that could be why they cling to it. Prayer is meditation and other practices make them feel close to their god (s). Who am I to judge, really?

    What puts me off about New Atheists is how condescending they are. I may be an Atheist but I'm not an anti-Theist.
    No, not really. They're similar but serve very different purposes. One of the purposes of prayer is to direct your thoughts towards your faith and your god, whereas meditation exists solely as a means of training your mind to be calm. It's a way of clearing your mind of all thoughts and feelings so you can view the world objectively (which believe it or not, is the end goal of Buddhism). Prayer is meant to increase faith, meditation is a means of training yourself to abandon faith. They're complete opposites.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    Of course there were. For most of history the world's greatest civilizations have had their hearts in the East - this was true prior to the foundation of Islam and was true after the foundation of Islam. Civilizations flourished under Islam and perished under Islam, I don't understand where I've been dishonest.
    Only up until Al-Ghazali started preaching. After that the discoveries stopped and the Islamic world was plunged into the dark ages. Al-Ghazali preached the literal interpretation of the Qu'ran, today we'd call it Jihadism. Up until then Muslims were more liberal than most alive today as they cherry-picked bits of the Qu'ran. The moment they switched back to purer forms of Islam the Islamic world became Hell on Earth for non-Muslims.
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    This is coming from an atheists perspective:
    I absoultely disagree with other atheist who mock religious people just because they don't agree with them. No I'm not a fan of religion myself but I don't mock those who choose to follow it.
    I've heard things like "religion is like fairy tales" and "If I don't believe in santa, why would I believe in god"
    These are incredibly ignorant and biased. I know there's alot of us vs them mentality between atheist and theists but I do not agree with any religion basher.
    That's just the disgusting case with humanity today- the absolutely ignorant people who lack enlightenment -brainwashed by the society that has been sensitizing the new milenium generation with absolute demonizing Godless rubbish, chose to sit on their asses daily, feeding on their plate of maggot-infested YOLO-rihanna-beyonce-idolworshipping stupidity and absolutely HATE when someone tells them they have been eating maggots all their life. Its sad but these people will feed that same maggot to their children and so on. Never-ending cycle of insanity.

    “The moment you start arguing with an ignorant fool, you have already lost.”

    But i do understand why atheists chose to remain in their darkness.
    Religion has been hijacked from the beginning of civilization for mass domination/control purposes
    1) roman-catholicism is the epitome of end of days false prophetism- the leaders are so rich that their faeces do not stink i guess, thats why some humanpigs "BOW DOWN" to the POPE.
    2) islam
    3) "highly emphasized" white jesus
    4) world's ****ed up by religious wars
    5) protestant churches (especially african pastors) making money off poor "miracle-seeking" people in the name of "tithe & offering" myass

    if i did not have a close encounter with jesus's mercy, i would be a strongminded athiest by now. i mean look at the state of this world, its gone to hell. But all is not lost. I do not believe in christianity as a religion. I believe in sharing a personal relationship with the saviour.
    God bless.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    No, not really. They're similar but serve very different purposes. One of the purposes of prayer is to direct your thoughts towards your faith and your god, whereas meditation exists solely as a means of training your mind to be calm. It's a way of clearing your mind of all thoughts and feelings so you can view the world objectively (which believe it or not, is the end goal of Buddhism). Prayer is meant to increase faith, meditation is a means of training yourself to abandon faith. They're complete opposites.
    I meditate whenever I can remember to but I have also prayed and both have a similar calming effect. The purposes be different but the serenity that you feel afterwards isn't so much so. It was supposed to be a metaphor, they are not literally the same. Of course, if you are praying to a god who you don't believe in then prayer will feel like a burdensome chore, so I'm talking about those who pray and believe that their feel a connection with their god.
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    (Original post by ngel4u)
    That's just the disgusting case with humanity today- the absolutely ignorant people who lack enlightenment -brainwashed by the society that has been sensitizing the new milenium generation with absolute demonizing Godless rubbish, chose to sit on their asses daily, feeding on their plate of maggot-infested denial and absolutely HATE when someone tells them they have been eating maggots all their life. Its sad but

    “The moment you start arguing with an ignorant fool, you have already lost.”
    Lol there's no reason beeing passive agressive about the issue here.
    If someone wants to believe in god, whats your problem? Is it going to affect your outcome in life?
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    Lol there's no reason beeing passive agressive about the issue here.
    If someone wants to believe in god, whats your problem? Is it going to affect your outcome in life?
    If someone wants to mock idiocracy, what's your problem? Is it going to affect your outcome in life?
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    If someone wants to mock idiocracy, what's your problem? Is it going to affect your outcome in life?
    there's a big difference in mocking an individual and mocking an individuals ideology
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    there's a big difference in mocking an individual and mocking an individuals ideology
    Not when said individual wants to preach their idiocracy, if they don't want to face mockery they should stay quiet.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Not when said individual wants to preach their idiocracy, if they don't want to face mockery they should stay quiet.
    You're bringin up a completely different point here not what I said in my thread.
    I just said people shouldn't people's religions I didn't say we shouldn't mock those who preach?
 
 
 
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