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(Original post by Reue)
Big bold letters must mean I'm right!

As I've said time and time again; The police do not consider him to be a serious threat. He has served his punishment and should now be allowed to live the normal life he is legally entitled to.

If you disagree with a released convict's right to freedom, I suggest you petition government and the European court of human rights.
Fair enough, but morality needs to come into it.

Paedophiles pose a continuous threat to kids - and they should be locked up or be made public, like the US system.

Genetic or not, by acting on their impulses they are giving up their right to freedom.

To argue against that successfully is nigh on impossible.
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Your post just made me physically sick.
He always will be a peadophile. It's a mental condition, you cannot be rehabilitated from it. He'll always desire children sexually.
He may well re-offend.
Oh and if you ask me, if he wants to take away a childs dignity by raping them he should have his dignity taken away for good!!

Our justice system in GB is shambolical. Peadophiles are a danger and should be locked away for life.
It's simply not good enough being told 'sorry dear, you can't work with children anymore, but we'll re house you on an estate full of them.'

People who rape, whether it be children or not should not have any rights of freedom!
For anyone to say they deserve a second chance is a blithering idiot, that's risking another INNOCENT child's life.
Seriously, are you out of your small pea-brained minds?

There is no such thing as being harsh when it comes to a person who shoves his penis in places where it isn't welcome. As far as I'm concerned if they want to release him then he should be castrated first.
Hear hear. :fuhrer:
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(Original post by Sallyjade)
Your post just made me physically sick.
He always will be a peadophile. It's a mental condition, you cannot be rehabilitated from it. He'll always desire children sexually.
He may well re-offend.
Oh and if you ask me, if he wants to take away a childs dignity by raping them he should have his dignity taken away for good!!

Our justice system in GB is shambolical. Peadophiles are a danger and should be locked away for life.
It's simply not good enough being told 'sorry dear, you can't work with children anymore, but we'll re house you on an estate full of them.'

People who rape, whether it be children or not should not have any rights of freedom!
For anyone to say they deserve a second chance is a blithering idiot, that's risking another INNOCENT child's life.
Seriously, are you out of your small pea-brained minds?

There is no such thing as being harsh when it comes to a person who shoves his penis in places where it isn't welcome. As far as I'm concerned if they want to release him then he should be castrated first.
I'm sorry, but this train of thought, not too far from the idea of reinstating capital punishment, is immoral and just does not work. The justice system applies to everyone, you can't declare that some people must be locked up forever and not given any chance to reform. Don't even get me started on forced castration, I'm sure you know for a fact that it would never happen and why that is the case, it's practically the same as the early-mid 1900s practice of lobotomising certain mental patients to calm them down.
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So you think that the images themselves provoke the attraction?

I disagree, and think that the images are sought out by many people who would never actually commit a crime on a child, and the increasing crackdown on child pornography is actually pressurising pedophiles to satisfy their attraction in any way possible, forcing them to commit the crime. Not that I support child porn, I hasten to add!

I actually do support drawn and fictional child pornography, for the reasons expressed. It's actually being discussed now whether to crack down on that too, and it opens a whole 'nother can of worms concerning anime. Another time another place discussion, though.
I disagree with your post, and have valid reasons why what you are suggesting should not happen, but I agree with your highlighted point as H&R is hardly the right place for it and now the OP has been relieved thankfully. Feel free to open a thread in D&D and I'll be there next time I'm online, the same goes for 'Reue'. :o:
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The masses of unfortunate teenagers being forced to sign the sex register because they had sex with their 15yr old consenting girlfriends springs immediatly to mind.
Oh right yeah that is really sad and a terrible aspect of the justice system, I didn't realise it was that common.
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People, perhaps we should move this discussion to D&D? :o:
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I disagree with your post, and have valid reasons why what you are suggesting should not happen, but I agree with your highlighted point as H&R is hardly the right place for it and now the OP has been relieved thankfully. Feel free to open a thread in D&D and I'll be there next time I'm online, the same goes for 'Reue'. :o:
I agree and have already sent a PM to the op to apologise for turning her thread into a debate on legality.
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Firstly, is it supposed to be public knowledge that he's in your village? If not, is spreading this information actually legal? Secondly, the man is an absolute monster, but I don't believe he's really a danger to anybody anymore. He'll also be monitored by the security services almost constantly. The truth is that there is nothing you can do about it. Gary Glitter is a free man now, and he's served his time. The law can only work if people are then treated as normal citizens once they return to society - even if they seemingly don't deserve it. I actually feel slightly sorry for him, because he's clearly been unable to contain his sick fantasies and has committed some appalling crimes against children. I'm sure he feels an incurable guilt. I'd say the best thing you can do is let him live his life and to live yours as if he wasn't there.
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If he was still a danger to the public, they wouldn't let him out.
LOL
A lottt of criminals, re-commit, prison for them is like a trip to a supermarket for us.
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People, perhaps we should move this discussion to D&D? :o:
I've never posted in there, but hasn't it had a lot of this sort of debates in the past? I'd be surprized if it hasn't.
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Whats his name?
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Your 17 remember
oh darn, and there was me thinking i was 42.

yeah, i'm 17....

your point? lol :o:
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STFU you absolute ******.

The OP was ABUSED as a kid. How the **** do you think this makes HER feel? A paedophile living in HER village, posing a threat to HER community?

Once you're a paedophile, you're always a paedophile you ****ing insensitive knob.

I hope you get -ve repped and flamed by other users.
I think the fact you have to result to insulting me personally says it all about your argument. I wonder where you propose putting rehabilitated peadophiles then? Or do you just think they should be all put to death?

Paedophiles tragically have no more control over being attracted to children than gay men have to being attracted to other men. I fully support jailing paedophiles who commit a serious offence, but I do not believe that after serving there sentance they should be hounded and have people wanting them dead and encouraging vigilante action.

Incedentally, good for you for leaving your name with the neg rep, I respect that, but not your language. And your assumption is incorrect, I leave my name with all rep.
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(Original post by Electric_Dreams)
People, perhaps we should move this discussion to D&D? :o:
agreed.
Mods, feel free to move.
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(Original post by Speedbird2008)
STFU you absolute ******.

The OP was ABUSED as a kid. How the **** do you think this makes HER feel? A paedophile living in HER village, posing a threat to HER community?

Once you're a paedophile, you're always a paedophile you ****ing insensitive knob.

I hope you get -ve repped and flamed by other users.
Don't curse. :no:


Oh, and for the record, pedophiles who have been released back into the community are deemed by the law to be safe after rehabilitation, and will probably be monitored anyway. There's no point being paranoid, he won't pose a threat to the local children.
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it's alright, he's already gone anyway.
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Oh, and for the record, pedophiles who have been released back into the community are deemed by the law to be safe after rehabilitation,
This point has been made several times by different posters.

It's worth noting that in the case we are discussing that he wasn't released from a British prison.

Do we know what rehabilitation takes place in Vietnamese jails? They understandably wanted him out of the country as soon as he was released and deported him.
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I find it amazing the amount of people who consider child abuse to be worse than murder. Some bizarre social conditioning of some sort.

And I recall someone saying it was 'immoral' that Gary Glitter was still earning money in royalties. ...What? Do you know what immoral means? How is that 'immoral'? He earnt the money through entirely legal (and presumably 'moral') means....

I see a few people have read some commentary from the Indy last week in here
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(Original post by Electric_Dreams)
:ditto:

I'd like to see what he'd say if he or someone close to him were abused by a paedophile. Quite frankly, they can't be rehabilitated, and deserve to have their rights taken off them when they take the life out of others. I can understand what he is saying, but hating a victim over the abuser is just downright disgusting.
Funnily enough, in this country we don't have a justice system based on 'what the victim would do'. Most sane people prefer to have a third party form judge the situation without emotional bias.
Saying someone deserves to have their rights taken from them is appalling. :no:

(Original post by Electric_Dreams)
No, you're wrong. These people often look at websites, magazines and various forms of media to satisfy this 'attraction' before they actually commit this crime themselves, and how does this media come about? Through offences already being commited. They often contribute and fund the crime before they literally do it, and under the law that is an offense in itself, never mind how wrong and disgusting it is.

Some good points have already been made with this post.

Let's face it, noone really know the 'true' number of paedophiles. It's hardly as though you can conduct a survey to find out what % of the population are attracted to children. For this reason it is impossible for you to say 'These people often...' because you can have no realistic idea of what proportion of paedophiles leave their feelings dormant, engage only in 'passive' abuse, as described, or actually abuse children directly. You can't have any real idea about any of the stuff you posted, other than the **** you read in a newspaper.
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I agree with fisherman and Reue.
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