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It's a massive gamble on McCain. He could either be the favourite now and lead the polls by a big margin, or he could have given Obama an ace of an advantage. It's an all or nothing
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SHE IS HOT! :hubba:

McCain that dirty filthy dog! (Just like all Republicans, and 'Religious' folk)
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(Original post by ssk2)

The fact is that Sarah Palin DOES have executive experience whereas Obama does not. She has a proven track record of winning an election (against a high spending Democrat) for an exec. position, Obama does not. Many people are saying that the GOP can't play the experience card. Firstly, this is not a major factor in the run up to the election - when we get down to policy debates, I think we may find that Obama comes up a little short. As an aside, where is the money for the tax cuts for 95% of working Americans going to come from? Anyone? Secondly, McCain CAN still play that experience card if he so desired; he HAS that experience. Palin is able to hit him where it hurts - policies.

For those of you saying that Palin will be a weak VP, think again. We all know McCain will only be standing for the one term - he's going to be prepping Palin for the 2012 election against Hillary (because Obama drifts in to relative obscurity if he loses). I wouldn't say that the position of VP is particularly important anyway - name me one thing that Cheney has done (on his own) that has been THAT noteworthy. Same thing with Gore when he was VP for Clinton (and how many of you knew that Gore was VP without looking...).

I really can't see where you Obama fanatics are coming from... A young woman, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, 5 kids (one disabled) all the time working in an executive office of the United States. Follows all of McCain's policies (save for one regarding Alaskan oil). In my eyes, she is pretty perfect for McCain...



He never has and never will need a 'massive' advantage. The election will be so tight, a move like this could tip it his way.

[QUOTE=ssk2]I'm not going to repeat my points again, they're just being ignored. Instead, I'm going to ask why people are having a massive circle jerk over the fact that McCain has picked a young, successful female candidate?
Obama has a credit card with unlimited funds to spend McCain has 83 million. Obama is a name, he’s an image there won’t be a single American voting that won’t have heard of him or at least buy into his message somewhat. To be honest people that don’t vote for him will do so mainly because A) they think he’s too inexperienced B) he’s Black C) They’d never vote for a democrat. McCain does not appeal beyond his base, and beyond the He’s Black/ he’s inexperienced the latter of which has been neutralised by this appointment completely in my opinion, but certainly to a large extent. That much you must concede at leat?

Having executive experience doesn’t matter a jot. When people say you are “inexperienced” what they are attacking is the fact that you’ve not done anything grand that is the perception. She’s a first term governor nobody has heard of who appeals to nobody except the base instinctively. Obama will get most of the Clinton backers, Hillary and Bill will help him they’ve endorsed him. Sarah may attract a tiny percentage of non hardcore Clinton supporters but it would seem that’s all she’s there to do and it won’t make much of a difference. The republicans do not have the money to fight Obama in 50 states and turn Palin into a house hold name and fight Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and Biden. In fact the Republicans don’t have any decent republicans to prop McCain up. The Bush’s in adverts? Rumsvelt? Condi Rice? Collin Powel ?

McCain will say he’s a nobody internationally he’s inexperienced, the democrats will then roll out Obama with the French President, Gordon Brown Angela Mircle and the 200,000 Germans, it sort of throws water on that argument. Obama has experience of a different kind. He’s delivered in his various projects which touch a-lot of people he’s done various populist things in the senate. Most things McCain has done in the Senate is 95% 90% (I’ve heard both numbers I’m not sure which is right) of what George Bush wanted, unpopular.

Sarah Palin has a proven track record of winning a republican seat from a republican, maybe she should have run for McCain’s job then. If the experience card isn’t a major factor in this election the republicans might as well give up now. They have attacked Obama on virtually nothing else but his lack of experience! If you listened to his speech he said he’d close various loop holes bla bla nobody is going to look at the nity grity of it, they’re not going to whip out a calculator and add it up. People will ask, and he’ll have the facts of how it can be done or at least how he will do it. Obviously republicans will say it can’t be done but that’s negative and Obama has fired everybody up with “hope”. Again, it would seem that there is a huge voter registration drive, most of which will go for Obama, I suppose the fact that Sarah Palin his young might help McCain a tad I doubt it though.

The presidential debates will be on two major issues. The economy which you need to know inside out and back to front, Obama though he hasn’t run anything (as he’s a senator/ so is McCain) knows his stuff on economics and people want what he says he’ll do, he has to convince them. McCain has said he knows nothing on economics, it’s not something he can do a crash course in. He’ll lose that argument.

McCain knows his international relations and foreign policy inside out, the only problem is his views are unpopular and Obama was right, bad war illegal war bla bla, you can pick up and grasp foreign policy pretty quickly, all he has to do is sound tough that’s what people are looking for. We saw this for the first time in his speech. “John McCain likes to say he’ll follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell but he won’t even follow him to his cave” <<< Obama will get tough.

The surge will help McCain, but Bush has even gone for Obama’s plan now (staggered withdrawal) The surge has not worked, it will not work! Terrorists will draw down wait for the surge troops to leave and come back lol! It’s a pointless war that can’t be won.

Ok I’m going to re make the infamous 3am advert! John McCain rushed to hospital because of a heart attack... phone rings at 3 am who do you want to pick it up Biden? Or a beauty queen? Hmm.

I 100% agree with you! She is pretty perfect for McCain lol McCain the republican, who is weak on abortion and disliked by the bible lot... The woman is not good at all for the people that will decide this election, weak democrats and independents! (and I think I’m correct in saying that there is a right wing independent running for president who will steal republican votes) especially in key states.

Condi Rice 10x better than this woman. We would have an African American and a woman and somebody who was experienced.

I'm flicking through the news ch's fox etc and im suprised at the lack of interest in his VP choice they are running it as a second story after Obama...
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My aren't you naive. Go back to Disneyland. :rolleyes:
A mayor and a governor has more relevant experience than a senator. Senators never have to manage a large staff or budget, or assure the public that he or she is up to the job of being governor. Being a Senator just means that you show up for six months out of the year and either vote on issues, or propose bills.
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She is hot, a conservative and likes guns.

I have fallen in love!
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Wow could he have picked a worse possible candidate?

Why didn't he pick Romney?
Romney should just keep away from politics...
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
A mayor and a governor has more relevant experience than a senator. Senators never have to manage a large staff or budget, or assure the public that he or she is up to the job of being governor. Being a Senator just means that you show up for six months out of the year and either vote on issues, or propose bills.
I think your wording is wrong. Certainly Obama's success has lowered the standards/expectations for which one can run for office, but she has more executive experience than Obama but then again she wont be debating Obama, this isn't a pre-nomination for 2012 so comparisons with Obama himself wont go far - she'll be debating Biden and he is incredibly strong debator whose experience and knowledge e.g. in foreign policy, wouldn't be easily questioned by Republicans.

It is still a strong pick from by McCain, but the biggest problem Obama has right now is whether or not she will attract woman voters to the extent that Hilary's endorsement becoming worthless - and how he would deal with that. That is after all the main reason behind her selection.

If her selection is unable to attract those "18million cracks" in the glass ceiling, then McCain has a disaster on his hands for which then she'll have to face Biden. This is why its a gamble.
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
A mayor and a governor has more relevant experience than a senator. Senators never have to manage a large staff or budget, or assure the public that he or she is up to the job of being governor. Being a Senator just means that you show up for six months out of the year and either vote on issues, or propose bills.
It’s not rocket science to manage a staff or a state budget, furthermore you don’t do it alone you do it with a team. The democrats have a team; the republican team seems to be Bush’s with a new guy at the top. We’ve heard no new vision from the republicans at all, their convention will be interesting maybe they’ve just been holding back. Bush was a governor, a good one by all accounts and look at his management skills when he became president. Budget surplus to a budget deficit ... the man couldn’t run a bath, which is why he had Chaney (the intellectual) was on the ticket.

Senator / Governors nobody cares, you need to sell something the public want to buy being a two year governor doesn’t cut it. In fact it suggests one is qualified to be vice president of the united states after two years lol, that’s like going from being a borough Cllr to being PM! Can a 4 year governor be president then? I really think it ruin’s the argument that Barack is inexperienced, he’s been a senator for years (double the time of the republican candidate so obviously if you do the maths he’s presidential material lol) and before that he was a senator for his state.

Why would the oh so experienced John McCain run with somebody inexperienced when there are more tested and proven candidates available? It’s because she’s a woman lol, he wanted a woman and any woman would do! (I sometimes feel like that)
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
A mayor and a governor has more relevant experience than a senator. Senators never have to manage a large staff or budget, or assure the public that he or she is up to the job of being governor. Being a Senator just means that you show up for six months out of the year and either vote on issues, or propose bills.
A mayor of 9000 people (not exactly NEw York) and governor of a very sparsely populated state.
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Haha McCain will enjoy an extra 5m hillary supporters.
Its quite sad when you think that the only reason she will get a good number of votes is her lack of testes.

I also find a great deal of the arguments rather silly given that the president doesn't do half of what people are making out, and instead relies on other staff.

Common sense, people skills, a cool head, and the ability to delegate. THats what makes a good leader, be it president or prime minister.

I'm for obama but wouldn't be distraught if McCain wins because I know (like many) that he has deliberately steered right in order to piuck up more conservative votes, but he doesn't really place himself there.
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He voted with bush 90% of the time.
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http://www.johnmccain.com/ Are the republicans so poor? that looks terrible like its been done in paint! ha she look slike a naughty nurse! you know the kinda porn fantasy? maybe its just me! sorry im talking too much.
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I disagree. I think this was an excellent choice. A nice balance - old and male offset by young and female.

I also think McCain may now attract a lot of very democrat/swing female voters who were dissapointed that Obama didn't pick Hilary as his running mate.
His idea was good ( well not his personally but his advisor's) however im sure there's slightly more experience women republicans. We will see how it pans out.
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His idea was good ( well not his personally but his advisor's) however im sure there's slightly more experience women republicans. We will see how it pans out.
I'm sure there dozens more experienced women Republicans. If all McCain wanted was an experienced woman then he could have approached Condi Rice! But it's not just about experience - personality and voter affinity go a long way.
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I'm sure there dozens more experienced women Republicans. If all McCain wanted was an experienced woman then he could have approached Condi Rice! But it's not just about experience - personality and voter affinity go a long way.
I don't know much about her personality, so it will be good to see how she develops.
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I assume this is to get the support of the Democrat-voters who were annoyed when Obama became the candidate.
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You'd get more relevant experience being governor for 2 years than you would being Senator for 10.
How about the experience of Washington politics, which both McCain and Obama have in abundance?
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McCain is tapping that? Very nice

At 71 as well..nice. Shows you can do anything in the USA.
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McCain is tapping that? Very nice

At 71 as well..nice. Shows you can do anything in the USA.
:rolleyes:
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She is hot, a conservative and likes guns.

I have fallen in love!
And she rides a motorcycle :love:
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