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    (Original post by no-sunlight)
    Aye for drunk wasted girls but no for **** buddies.
    So having a **** buddy is okay but having sex with a prostitute isn't? Wow aren't you consistent!
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    (Original post by big-bang-theory)
    Time and effort in exchange for money are the parameters of the comparsion. So yes... and?



    Appeal to ridicule/Ad homenim, a bit of both really. Either way not much of an argument...



    Straw man, any task which is not in of itself immoral can be traded for money acceptably. Thus paying for murder for instance remains wrong. Unless you wish to argue that sex is in of itself immoral you must redefine your rebuttle.
    Right. Well here is my refefined rebuttle for you.

    Fundamently your argument is based on the comparison between a pool and a woman's body. The two are not similar.

    But moving on from that, you state that time and effort in exchange for money is acceptable. You assume that prostitution is just another job where the person does not enjoy their duties. Let me tell you now, that prostitution is different. It is seen as perhaps the most degrading form of making money by society. The prostitutes are seen as objects, whos bodies are there to be used. They are seen as whores and their circumstances are degrading. I hope you will agree that this is not the general vibe given out by a standard job (such as your pool job).

    As a final point, you have said that murder remains wrong. This is a very vague point in my view. Murder can be argued to be correct in certain situations, hence the introduction of capital punishment. At the end of the day illegal acts are branded illegal to reflect the morals of a society.
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    (Original post by himynameiswhaa)
    So having a **** buddy is okay but having sex with a prostitute isn't? Wow aren't you consistent!
    Eh, no. Because you don't pay **** buddies and it is not the same thing AT ALL.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    If two consenting adults wish to have sex for the exchange of money, I really do not see any problem with that.
    :ditto:


    I think you should have more respect for yourself though OP
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    (Original post by no-sunlight)
    Eh, no. Because you don't pay **** buddies and it is not the same thing AT ALL.
    Let us put it this way. People hang out with their **** buddies, buy them lunch/dinner, buy them gifts, pay for a ride etc. Not too different from prostitution.

    Either way, the act of paying shouldn't be a big issue for someone who accepts the idea of having **** buddies.
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    Thousands of men are doing it right now
    And in Japan, thousands of women are using male prostitutes

    Maybe that can make you feel better
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    (Original post by himynameiswhaa)
    Let us put it this way. People hang out with their **** buddies, buy them lunch/dinner, buy them gifts, pay for a ride etc. Not too different from prostitution.

    Either way, the act of paying shouldn't be a big issue for someone who accepts the idea of having **** buddies.
    :lolwut: so when you get a girlfriend you'll think it's not too different than having a prositute?

    Good lord.
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    (Original post by himynameiswhaa)
    Let us put it this way. People hang out with their **** buddies, buy them lunch/dinner, buy them gifts, pay for a ride etc. Not too different from prostitution.

    Either way, the act of paying shouldn't be a big issue for someone who accepts the idea of having **** buddies.
    In my opinion, it is not nearly the same thing. There are huge differences. Many prostitutes are so because of their lifestyle (for example, the need money to feed a drug habit) this is simply not the same as buying someone dinner.

    Anyway, it is my opinion. You're not going to change it. End.
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    (Original post by junglemonkey)
    :lolwut: so when you get a girlfriend you'll think it's not too different than having a prositute?

    Good lord.
    NO. You are missing the point. You are in a relationship with your girlfriend, BUT NOT with your **** buddy (and you are not in a relationship with the prostitute either).
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    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    Fundamently your argument is based on the comparison between a pool and a woman's body. The two are not similar.
    The comparison is on the point of (if sufficient protection is used) harmless services rendered for money. Thus the comparison stands.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    But moving on from that, you state that time and effort in exchange for money is acceptable.
    So you do not contend this point?

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    You assume that prostitution is just another job where the person does not enjoy their duties.
    I don't state that all prostitutes do not enjoy their work. On the country I would be very surprised if there weren't some who did it because they enjoyed it. My only gripe with prostitution as a concept is the circumstancial nature of the fact the money fuels gang culture and numerous people are forced in to in a manner that would be unacceptable in all forms of labour not just prostitution. Although even without these factors I don't value sex as a pass time worth paying for when one could happily get it for free in numerous other circumstances. But if people want to do it I don't see why my or anyone elses distaste for doing it should stop them.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    Let me tell you now, that prostitution is different. It is seen as perhaps the most degrading form of making money by society.
    Which is a problem with society and the past sexual suppression thereof as opposed to the trade itself. Unless you can prove that there is something fundamentally harmful about the act itself.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    The prostitutes are seen as objects, whos bodies are there to be used.
    While I realise for the most part it is far worse in the circumstances of prostitutes that's partly due to it's underground nature. But with any job that requires public interaction you find this. The "level" so to speak of public interaction is increased, thus so is the objectification I suppose. But so what? If neither party cares, why on earth should I?

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    They are seen as whores
    ... yes? That's their profession

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    and their circumstances are degrading.
    Due to society seeing it as such. If neither party cares why should I?

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    I hope you will agree that this is not the general vibe given out by a standard job (such as your pool job).
    No but a "general vibe" is a simple appeal to the ethics of convention. As cliché an example as it is the "general vibe" in the early 1900s was that blacks were inferior, go back to the 1500s and we've got money-lending being an inferior job etc. etc.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    As a final point, you have said that murder remains wrong. This is a very vague point in my view. Murder can be argued to be correct in certain situations, hence the introduction of capital punishment.
    N.B. The definition of murder I use is an unjustified killing, I try to distinguish the two and maintain the distinction at all possibilities. Also I condemm capital punishment as well.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    At the end of the day illegal acts are branded illegal to reflect the morals of a society.
    Which means the society is right because...
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    It's what they are there for, afterall?
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    It's a good way to hone your skills, plus it keeps the economy afloat. Have you seen the latest unemployment figures? Over 2 million unemployed, let's try and keep some people employed! Better yet, go become one yourself. Earning and learning! Who needs the skill centre?
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    No mate...just double wrap it!
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    (Original post by Ozy)
    I've considered this myself.

    I'm 21, still at uni, and I've only slept with one girl, over a year ago and she made me feel crap and worthless. I lost my virginity to her and sorta regret it.

    I lost what little self esteem I had and up until recently haven't had any interest from the opposite sex.
    I'm convinced I'm ugly or there is something else majorly wrong with me that puts every girl in the Uk off me.
    My workmate put the idea into my head and said it would only cost £80 (he's used one before).
    I don't think it's wrong. Not all prostitutes are forced into their job by violent sex rings. Some just do it for a a well paid living.

    I've not hired a prostitute, but if you really want to have sex and there is no other way, like in my case, then yeah, go for it.
    One of the good things about the net is that people can be extremely frank. And I really am going to be frank. As a relatively old virgin I decided recently to lose 'it'. I found an escort agency and off I went.

    so, how did it go? i can't say I gained anything from it except a £120 hole in my wallet. I was pretty nervous and I have to say struggled to get aroused despite being given plenty of all-body massages by the young lady. We tried oral sex with a condom - I could almost have fallen asleep at this point (although thanks to another excellent discussion on TSR, I understand this is not unusual). Having managed to get myself semi-aroused enough to begin intercourse I could only keep it going for a few minutes before things died again. At this point (getting a little frustrated) I decided to resort to masturbation as nothing else seemed to work. I quickly got aroused and she finished things for my only climax. That was half an hour into an hour long session but things were bascially over at that point.

    I'm sorry if people felt that was a bit explicit but I wanted to get it off my chest. I'm a bit worried that years of masturbation might have made it impossible for me to get aroused by anything else. How can I sum it up. Well, as children at a fairground, there were rides my brother and I enjoyed so much that we begged our parents to let us go on them again and again and again. There were other rides that left you feeling flat and a bit conned that your money had been wasted. My experience with paying for sex was very much the latter. I don't think I will be doing it again.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    If two consenting adults wish to have sex for the exchange of money, I really do not see any problem with that.
    I agree with the above post.

    I think this belongs in D&D ...
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    (Original post by big-bang-theory)
    The comparison is on the point of (if sufficient protection is used) harmless services rendered for money. Thus the comparison stands.

    So you do not contend this point?

    I don't state that all prostitutes do not enjoy their work. On the country I would be very surprised if there weren't some who did it because they enjoyed it. My only gripe with prostitution as a concept is the circumstancial nature of the fact the money fuels gang culture and numerous people are forced in to in a manner that would be unacceptable in all forms of labour not just prostitution. Although even without these factors I don't value sex as a pass time worth paying for when one could happily get it for free in numerous other circumstances. But if people want to do it I don't see why my or anyone elses distaste for doing it should stop them.

    Which is a problem with society and the past sexual suppression thereof as opposed to the trade itself. Unless you can prove that there is something fundamentally harmful about the act itself.

    While I realise for the most part it is far worse in the circumstances of prostitutes that's partly due to it's underground nature. But with any job that requires public interaction you find this. The "level" so to speak of public interaction is increased, thus so is the objectification I suppose. But so what? If neither party cares, why on earth should I?

    ... yes? That's their profession

    Due to society seeing it as such. If neither party cares why should I?

    No but a "general vibe" is a simple appeal to the ethics of convention. As cliché an example as it is the "general vibe" in the early 1900s was that blacks were inferior, go back to the 1500s and we've got money-lending being an inferior job etc. etc.

    N.B. The definition of murder I use is an unjustified killing, I try to distinguish the two and maintain the distinction at all possibilities. Also I condemm capital punishment as well.

    Which means the society is right because...
    Ok, lets look at it this way. Would you really want your mother or your sister to enter this profession?
    If no then, then perhaps you will understand why I consider prostitution to be morally wrong. Family is an important part of todays society and something which interferes with it to the extent that prostitution does is generally accepted as morally wrong.
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    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    Ok, lets look at it this way. Would you really want your mother or your sister to enter this profession?
    I'd rather not hear about it, but then I'd rather not hear about their sex life in general. What my sisters get up to in their own time behind closed doors is none of my buisness nor do I want it to be. But I would neither condemm nor think horifically of them for it. A job's a job if you think it's beneath you don't do it. My only concern would be the things that come hand in hand with prostitution due to it's illegal nature which can be destructive.

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    If no then, then perhaps you will understand why I consider prostitution to be morally wrong.
    Why must people constantly mistake me for someone who holds normal moral and ethical values?

    (Original post by The Legacy 1)
    Family is an important part of todays society and something which interferes with it to the extent that prostitution does is generally accepted as morally wrong.
    I don't agree with the concept of a standard family unit either. I've just spent 6 years in a boarding school and I'm completely happy. That is hardly in correlation with that, if you want to maintain the family unit as you do see it has intrinsic value (probably the simplest successful format, but then it's not always successful) then you should be condemming any for of sexual interaction outside marriage and for any other reason than for procreation. Which unless you're a devout catholic I'd say you probably don't
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    (Original post by junglemonkey)
    1) Any future girlfriends will be seriously pissed you did it, I would end my current 3 year relationship with my boyfriend if I found out he had used a prostitute.
    thats ********, its his ****, let him to do what he wants with it
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    (Original post by Academic14)
    thats ********, its his ****, let him to do what he wants with it
    LOL!! Yeah so I can cheat on you cause it's my vagina and I'll do what I like?

    He can do what he likes with his **** but he won't be my girlfriend if he's seen a prostitute.

    I know you're banned but hey.
 
 
 
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