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    (Original post by Aitana)
    Waaa I wanna learn Japanese...how did u guys learn it?? (uni, skl, private lessons, self taught....any special methods???)

    Please could you give me some advice on how to start?
    I do know the basics like I know that there is 3 main different writing systems...
    I only recently started learning Japanese but I would advise you to start by learning the hiragana and katakana alphabets. I'm self teaching myself and don't plan to have lessons, it is a difficult language and you'll need a lot of motivation and determination (I know quite a few people who have given up learning it after not long because either it seems too much for them or they don't have the right motivation).

    I have a few links I can give you if you want to self study?
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    (Original post by Antipannenkoek)
    I only recently started learning Japanese but I would advise you to start by learning the hiragana and katakana alphabets. I'm self teaching myself and don't plan to have lessons, it is a difficult language and you'll need a lot of motivation and determination (I know quite a few people who have given up learning it after not long because either it seems too much for them or they don't have the right motivation).

    I have a few links I can give you if you want to self study?
    yes please
    thanks
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    (Original post by Aitana)
    yes please
    thanks
    Okay http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.com/ this site is great for learning hiragana and katakana (i'd learn hiragana first and then when you have no problems with that move onto katakana)
    http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.c...na-characters/ - shows you how to write them and is good for learning them
    http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.c...game-hiragana/ - this is great for practising, tests you at speed which is good for being able to recognise them quickly.

    http://smart.fm/goals/197677 - this is good for learning some basic phrases while you're trying to perfect the alphabets.

    http://www.timwerx.net/home/index.htm - this site is great for in depth grammar, Japanese has a lot of particles such as "wa" "ga" "no" and you'll need to know about these, the explanations of verbs and prepositions there are also good.

    http://www.jisho.org/ - is a good dictionary, although you'll need to be able to read hiragana to use it properly.

    http://www.learn-japanese.info/ - has some good vocabulary lists and other useful things such as brief grammar explanations and reading practice

    http://www.digitaldialects.com/Japanese.htm - this is also good for learning and testing vocab, it's from this page-
    http://sites.google.com/site/links4languages/japanese which has a lot of other links that you might want to check out if you need more, although I've not used many of them so don't know which are good.

    Don't have any links for learning kanji as I have a book which i'm using to learn them but i'm sure there'll be sites for that somewhere on the internet if you search around a bit.
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    (Original post by Antipannenkoek)
    Don't have any links for learning kanji as I have a book which i'm using to learn them but i'm sure there'll be sites for that somewhere on the internet if you search around a bit.
    What book are you using?
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    (Original post by Antipannenkoek)
    Okay http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.com/ this site is great for learning hiragana and katakana (i'd learn hiragana first and then when you have no problems with that move onto katakana)
    http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.c...na-characters/ - shows you how to write them and is good for learning them
    http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.c...game-hiragana/ - this is great for practising, tests you at speed which is good for being able to recognise them quickly.

    http://smart.fm/goals/197677 - this is good for learning some basic phrases while you're trying to perfect the alphabets.

    http://www.timwerx.net/home/index.htm - this site is great for in depth grammar, Japanese has a lot of particles such as "wa" "ga" "no" and you'll need to know about these, the explanations of verbs and prepositions there are also good.

    http://www.jisho.org/ - is a good dictionary, although you'll need to be able to read hiragana to use it properly.

    http://www.learn-japanese.info/ - has some good vocabulary lists and other useful things such as brief grammar explanations and reading practice

    http://www.digitaldialects.com/Japanese.htm - this is also good for learning and testing vocab, it's from this page-
    http://sites.google.com/site/links4languages/japanese which has a lot of other links that you might want to check out if you need more, although I've not used many of them so don't know which are good.

    Don't have any links for learning kanji as I have a book which i'm using to learn them but i'm sure there'll be sites for that somewhere on the internet if you search around a bit.

    thank you! arigato
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    What book are you using?
    Let's Learn Kanji
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    Well I finally booked my trip to Japan this year. I'm going with three friends to Tokyo for 8 nights, then down to Osaka (where we'll also make day trips to Kyoto), and then down to Fukuoka, where we're also planning a day trip to Hiroshima. 16 nights in total. わくわくしてます!

    (Original post by Sapientia)
    こんばんはー

    皆元気?

    今、東京の港区にいるよ。今週末、神奈川県に行った。富士山は超きれ いですよねー。硫黄の泡がブクブク出る池にも行った。やっぱ臭くてす ぐに吐き出したくなっちゃったよ。

    写真見たいなら、ここをご覧下さい〜:flickrです。

    皆、夏休みはどう?大学か新学期の不安?
    楽しそう!羨ましい。僕いつかそういう旅行本当にしたい よね。

    僕の去年の東京への旅行もあのフィンランドの空港へ行ったんだ。懐か しい!あの成田空港の看板もはっきり覚えてる。

    どうやってそのふみかさんに出会ったのか?
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    Well I finally booked my trip to Japan this year. I'm going with three friends to Tokyo for 8 nights, then down to Osaka (where we'll also make day trips to Kyoto), and then down to Fukuoka, where we're also planning a day trip to Hiroshima. 16 nights in total. わくわくしてます!


    楽しそう!羨ましい。僕いつかそういう旅行本当にしたい よね。

    僕の去年の東京への旅行もあのフィンランドの空港へ行ったんだ。懐か しい!あの成田空港の看板もはっきり覚えてる。

    どうやってそのふみかさんに出会ったのか?
    その旅行はいつ?私のとだいたい同じ長さだよね。

    飛行は長かったなぁ=_=まぁ、しょうがないね。ここにいるのは、本 当に幸せだ。

    ノッティンガム大学で出会ったよ〜。前は、そこで数学勉強してたけど 、四ヶ月後やめることにした。

    昨日は僕の誕生日だったから、色々した!原宿とか、渋谷とか見た。明 治神宮と代々木公園にも行った。そして夜は居酒屋で晩ご飯を楽しんで 、そこから東京タワー登った〜

    Flickrは写真が限定されてるから、今アップできない。アップす ると、必ず言うよ。

    今日は、ちょっと一人冒険。新宿行きたい。買い物したい !

    この国が大好きだ。

    今日は五日目なのに、もう日本語に慣れた気がする。毎日語彙は増えて 、ペラペラの夢に近づく。

    ところで、東京のどこで宿るの?
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    is there much difference between osaka dialect and tokyo dialect apart from the pronunciation?
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    その旅行はいつ?私のとだいたい同じ長さだよね。

    飛行は長かったなぁ=_=まぁ、しょうがないね。ここにいるのは、本 当に幸せだ。

    ノッティンガム大学で出会ったよ〜。前は、そこで数学勉強してたけど 、四ヶ月後やめることにした。

    昨日は僕の誕生日だったから、色々した!原宿とか、渋谷とか見た。明 治神宮と代々木公園にも行った。そして夜は居酒屋で晩ご飯を楽しんで 、そこから東京タワー登った〜

    Flickrは写真が限定されてるから、今アップできない。アップす ると、必ず言うよ。

    今日は、ちょっと一人冒険。新宿行きたい。買い物したい !

    この国が大好きだ。

    今日は五日目なのに、もう日本語に慣れた気がする。毎日語彙は増えて 、ペラペラの夢に近づく。

    ところで、東京のどこで宿るの?
    本当に楽しんでるのね。日本がそういう国だよ。:D

    出発は来月10日で、帰国は27日。新宿に泊まるつもりなんだ。前回 の訪日、新宿にいたのはたったの5分ぐらいだったんだけどさ。駅を出 て写真を撮って乗り換えに戻った。写真を撮った途端に「いいね!」っ て一言が歩道に座っていたおじいさんに言われたっていう思い出がある 。w
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    本当に楽しんでるのね。日本がそういう国だよ。:D

    出発は来月10日で、帰国は27日。新宿に泊まるつもりなんだ。前回 の訪日、新宿にいたのはたったの5分ぐらいだったんだけどさ。駅を出 て写真を撮って乗り換えに戻った。写真を撮った途端に「いいね!」っ て一言が歩道に座っていたおじいさんに言われたっていう思い出がある 。w
    因に、flickrは面倒くさいから、こっちを使っている。ちょっとご覧くださいね。

    おー新宿!新宿大好き。今回はよく楽しんで来てね。秋葉のヨドバシっ て店行ったことある?すっごくデッカいやつ。俺の天国だ ーBook Offって店も好きだ。
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    因に、flickrは面倒くさいから、こっちを使っている。ちょっとご覧くださいね。

    おー新宿!新宿大好き。今回はよく楽しんで来てね。秋葉のヨドバシっ て店行ったことある?すっごくデッカいやつ。俺の天国だ ーBook Offって店も好きだ。
    今回はヨドバシに行こうとする。

    これを使いに行く、絶対。

    Can't remember if I've asked this before or not, but are you planning to move to Japan permanently?

    (Original post by Remarqable M)
    is there much difference between osaka dialect and tokyo dialect apart from the pronunciation?
    Yeah, there's quite a big difference. Even basic things, such as how you make a verb negative, can change (Tokyo: ~ない, Kansai (Osaka): ~へん ) and a lot of different words for the same thing are used (Tokyo: ダメ, Kansai: アカン ) . It's worth reading up on.

    Edit: Don't know what happened to my brackets there ._.
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    今回はヨドバシに行こうとする。

    これを使いに行く、絶対。

    Can't remember if I've asked this before or not, but are you planning to move to Japan permanently?


    Yeah, there's quite a big difference. Even basic things, such as how you make a verb negative, can change (Tokyo: ~ない, Kansai (Osaka): ~へん ) and a lot of different words for the same thing are used (Tokyo: ダメ, Kansai: アカン ) . It's worth reading up on.

    Edit: Don't know what happened to my brackets there ._.
    ハ!日本の自動販売機が大好きよ〜♪超便利だよなぁ

    Before I came to Japan, I wasn't very sure as you know, other side of the world, no family here etc. Now I've come and I've been in Tokyo and felt the life here, I'd say I'm 99% certain I want to.

    I'm sure you understand what it feels like so I won't bang on, but it's like I've finally come home. Sitting with the family eating sashimi, watching Japanese TV and discussing all sorts of stuff is just... It's ME. I can be myself here (inb4 stop being a cheesy ******) whereas in England it always feels like something is missing.

    Are you?

    Also, that's interesting about the dialects. It's an aspect of Japanese I know virtually nothing about and have never even looked into. Will definitely do some investigation now, looks interesting.
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    ハ!日本の自動販売機が大好きよ〜♪超便利だよなぁ

    Before I came to Japan, I wasn't very sure as you know, other side of the world, no family here etc. Now I've come and I've been in Tokyo and felt the life here, I'd say I'm 99% certain I want to.

    I'm sure you understand what it feels like so I won't bang on, but it's like I've finally come home. Sitting with the family eating sashimi, watching Japanese TV and discussing all sorts of stuff is just... It's ME. I can be myself here (inb4 stop being a cheesy ******) whereas in England it always feels like something is missing.

    Are you?

    Also, that's interesting about the dialects. It's an aspect of Japanese I know virtually nothing about and have never even looked into. Will definitely do some investigation now, looks interesting.
    I'm 100% on doing a gap year of sorts over there after I graduate next Summer (whether that's via a language school, or working holiday, or something else I don't know yet, but by hook or by crook I want to be living in Japan next year). I love Tokyo and I love Japan as you know, but I also feel that this is my real home. There's a reasonable likelihood of me wanting to stay after the year is up, but I can't see myself living out my years there. やっぱ俺日本にいればこの見解が変わる可能性が高いけど な

    It would definitely be awesome though. My biggest fear is that I couldn't hack it in the Japanese workplace...
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    I'm 100% on doing a gap year of sorts over there after I graduate next Summer (whether that's via a language school, or working holiday, or something else I don't know yet, but by hook or by crook I want to be living in Japan next year). I love Tokyo and I love Japan as you know, but I also feel that this is my real home. There's a reasonable likelihood of me wanting to stay after the year is up, but I can't see myself living out my years there. やっぱ俺日本にいればこの見解が変わる可能性が高いけど な

    It would definitely be awesome though. My biggest fear is that I couldn't hack it in the Japanese workplace...
    Totally get where you're coming from there. It's a daunting thing, leaving your family to be like 10,000km away from them, pretty much alone. Depends what makes you happy, I suppose.

    Really? I've never really thought about that, but I suppose you have a point. High work ethic, etc. My biggest fear is that my Japanese won't get good soon. I'm sick of being all "なんか、えーと、昨日電話があったけど、まー日本語で何というかな ぁー" and being stared at by blank Japanese faces. A few times I've even shamefully resorted to "英語ができますか?" That said, being here, even if it has only been nine days so far, is the best thing that could have happened to my Japanese.

    今、京都に滞在。お寺とか神宮がいっぱいあるから、ちょっと文化冒険 しようかな?と思った。京都に来たら、このホテルを勧めます。京都御所の隣にあって、丸太町地下鉄駅からかなり遠くな い。綺麗であんま高くないし。

    明日、あさって、多分龍安寺や清水寺や金閣寺などに行ってみるから、 写真撮ったら、必ずアップしまっすねー
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    I've come to start learning Kanji now more so than Kana and am on 17 kanji and I am using the Heistig book, only 2030 to go, but hopefully slowly but surely I'll get there .
    さようなら!
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    (Original post by Small123)
    I've come to start learning Kanji now more so than Kana and am on 17 kanji and I am using the Heistig book, only 2030 to go, but hopefully slowly but surely I'll get there .
    さようなら!
    :top: Any questions, ask. The road might be long, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring.
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    My biggest fear is that my Japanese won't get good soon. I'm sick of being all "なんか、えーと、昨日電話があったけど、まー日本語で何というかな ぁー" and being stared at by blank Japanese faces.
    I hear you on that.

    I feel so restricted by not being able to say things as well as I can say them in English and I dislike that. I am a chatterbox, so feeling as if I can't speak nor say as much as I want to say about something is frustrating. Thankfully, a lot of the people I have spoken to say, even if my Japanese is pretty much nonsense, they can 'feel' what I'm saying, so they don't mind. =) It's nice to know such patient people, I just wish there were some way to reassure myself that my Japanese will improve over time 'cause it always feels stuck no matter what - as if I've already reached my maximum capacity, which is beginner-level.

    My listening comprehension is better than my speaking. I'm happy about that, at least. I can not only comprehend whatever the thing is that someone is speaking about but, what they are saying about it - the context, etc - is becoming more and more apparent to me. I've been trying to watch a variety of shows to boost my vocabulary. I'm better when it comes to variety shows or day time TV - 'cause they often talk about normal things - but, crime shows or the News pretty much goes way over my head at the moment 'cause my knowledge of the words used is so little in comparison.

    I love this though. I'm learning JSL but, I like this for my reading comprehension too. Ha ha, simple and short conversations. I put a translation of what they're talking about within the spoiler below, in case anyone is interested. Please feel free to correct any mistakes I've made, xx.

    Spoiler:
    Show
    Girl: When you were a child, what did you want to be?
    Guy: Hmm, many things.
    Girl: Such as?
    Guy: Hm, when I was little, I think I wanted to be a pilot.
    Girl: Ahhh, really?
    Guy: After that, a high school teacher.
    Girl: Ah, and you did that, didn't you?
    You teach at a vocational/technical school and at a junior college, right?
    Guy: Um. But I teach a different subject to what I felt I wanted to teach.
    Girl: What did you want to teach?
    Guy: Sociology.
    Girl: Ahh
    That's surprising!
    Guy: And I wanted to teach history.
    Girl: Did you want to be anything else?
    Guy: Hm, since Junior high school, I wanted to be a singer for a long time.
    Girl: And you also achieved that, right?
    Guy: Yeah but, my old man seemed to want me to become a photographer.
    Girl: That's the first time I've heard about this!
    Guy: So, when I was a child I was always taking pictures.
    Girl: I see!
    Guy: And you?
    Girl: Ummmmm...
    Guy: (I'm still waiting...).
    Girl: I forgot!
    Guy: No fair!
    Girl: Huh~?
    Guy: [Expresses disappointment*].
    Don't miss the next episode!

    *Wasn't sure what to put for this, I was thinking "Good grief".
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    (Original post by Sapientia)
    I'm sick of being all "なんか、えーと、昨日電話があったけど、まー日本語で何というかな ぁー" and being stared at by blank Japanese faces. A few times I've even shamefully resorted to "英語ができますか?"
    Yeah, I know what it's like when it doesn't go so well... but hey, screwing up and looking silly is part of the road to fluency.

    (Original post by Sapientia)
    今、京都に滞在。お寺とか神宮がいっぱいあるから、ちょっと文化冒険 しようかな?と思った。京都に来たら、このホテルを勧めます。京都御所の隣にあって、丸太町地下鉄駅からかなり遠くな い。綺麗であんま高くないし。

    明日、あさって、多分龍安寺や清水寺や金閣寺などに行ってみるから、 写真撮ったら、必ずアップしまっすねー
    次の日本への旅行であそこに泊まろうかな!

    (Original post by Jazmine)
    I love this though. I'm learning JSL but, I like this for my reading comprehension too. Ha ha, simple and short conversations. I put a translation of what they're talking about within the spoiler below, in case anyone is interested. Please feel free to correct any mistakes I've made, xx.「
    How does that sign mean 'sociology'?! 手話って凄いなぁ
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    How does that sign mean 'sociology'?! 手話って凄いなぁ
    Yeah, it is! =) I think many of the signs rely on context quite a bit. 社会 and 社会科 are signed exactly the same. I like the sign, probably 'cause it's one that I find easy to remember =P. It's interesting to compare JSL with other sign languages, particularly BSL, 'cause there seem to be many similarities as well as differences. Not that that makes them any easier to learn...

    I hope I will be able to use my JSL skills, just as I would like to use my Japanese skills, in the future. =) Only thing I wonder about is what nickname I would have... In BSL, I was given a name by my friends. I suppose, if I meet anyone who can sign in JSL, I'll ask them to name me as well. Saves me having to think about it, ha ha.
 
 
 
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