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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    The more I see of May the more I feel that you would be opposed to her.

    You seemed generally quite on board with the modernisers such as Cameron, Osborne, Gove and their low tax, low spend, small state*philosophy.

    May seems much more of a 1950s conservative, less keen on the free market but very socially conservative. Quite a few proposals so far I've liked, such as removing the retesting of disabled people, increasing spending on housing, *workers on the boards of companies, launching an investigation into workers rights.*

    Whether she follows through is another thing altogether but this seems a very different *Conservative party at the moment, at least in rhetoric.
    I don't dislike her per say but yeah, she's to the north west of Cameron and in turn he was a little north west of me on most issues (albeit i'm very conservative on foreign policy and certain health issues).

    The only good thing there is house building. The tests should have been amended rather than scrapped and other stuff is wet.

    In substance too, it's the most state schooled cabinet since Attlee.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I don't dislike her per say but yeah, she's to the north west of Cameron and in turn he was a little north west of me on most issues (albeit i'm very conservative on foreign policy and certain health issues).

    The only good thing there is house building. The tests should have been amended rather than scrapped and other stuff is wet.

    In substance too, it's the most state schooled cabinet since Attlee.
    What's rather ironic is now that we are leaving the EU we seem to have adopted a more typical European, Christian Democrat type government.

    As part of my work, I've been to talks from various people who work within government regulatory bodies and they seem to be painting a picture of May's government being far more centralised than Cameron's (who was more than willing to leave a lot of matters to the treasury)

    May is making a bold pitch for the working class, former labour but now ukip voter.

    If the orange bookers were still around I feel that the tories would shed a fair bit of their middle class, liberal support.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    What's rather ironic is now that we are leaving the EU we seem to have adopted a more typical European, Christian Democrat type government.

    As part of my work, I've been to talks from various people who work within government regulatory bodies and they seem to be painting a picture of May's government being far more centralised than Cameron's (who was more than willing to leave a lot of matters to the treasury)

    May is making a bold pitch for the working class, former labour but now ukip voter.

    If the orange bookers were still around I feel that the tories would shed a fair bit of their middle class, liberal support.
    Most Orange Bookers came to the Tories when the Libs adopted their suicidal 'bash the coalition' election approach.

    ......

    Hammond opens with a dig at Osbourne.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Most Orange Bookers came to the Tories when the Libs adopted their suicidal 'bash the coalition' election approach.

    ......

    Hammond opens with a dig at Osbourne.
    Purely in terms of ideology do you see yourself as closer to May or to Clegg/ Alexander?

    Also Phillip Hammond told probably the worst joke ever. 'Ed Balls wasn't strict 'a first choice, it was Jeremy Corbyn until they found out he had two left feet'

    It doesn't even make sense.

    Also disappointed with Javid for a very personal attack at Emily Thornberry. Attack the policy, not the person.*
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Purely in terms of ideology do you see yourself as closer to May or to Clegg/ Alexander?

    Also Phillip Hammond told probably the worst joke ever. 'Ed Balls wasn't strict 'a first choice, it was Jeremy Corbyn until they found out he had two left feet'

    It doesn't even make sense.

    Also disappointed with Javid for a very personal attack at Emily Thornberry. Attack the policy, not the person.*
    I don't think there's much difference economically, their differences are social. I'm probably closer to Osbourne in principal.

    I thought the joke was quite good. Like when 'Mock the week' came up with the joke that Corbyn should appointed England manager because he has staying power and is popular among fanatics.. the problem is that he'd want to select 11 left wingers.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
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    Not bad , Hammond's speech was very good , It has gone down quite well here at conference . Good to see he is scrapping the 2020 deadline for deficit reduction. Although i don't really see him as a future leader like i did with Osborne
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Not bad , Hammond's speech was very good , It has gone down quite well here at conference . Good to see he is scrapping the 2020 deadline for deficit reduction. Although i don't really see him as a future leader like i did with Osborne
    Is that not a good thing though? It means we might actually have a Chancellor who focuses solely on the economy rather than one who cares about his career progression.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Is that not a good thing though? It means we might actually have a Chancellor who focuses solely on the economy rather than one who cares about his career progression.
    In fairness i thought some of his ideas were inspired because of their political ramifications. That said he was a 2 steps forward, 1 gaff chancellor.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Is that not a good thing though? It means we might actually have a Chancellor who focuses solely on the economy rather than one who cares about his career progression.
    That is true . However if you look back alot of chancellors try to get into downing street when the current PM resigns or is forced out
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    That is true . However if you look back alot of chancellors try to get into downing street when the current PM resigns or is forced out
    Most who do are pretty ****. Anyway, aren't Chancellors already in Downing Street?
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    Hammond has the charisma of a damp bath mat.

    Incredibly boring and personality-less individual. Vastly prefer him to Osborne though.*
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    What's with this new layout :confused:
    This is weird alright.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    This is weird alright.
    Not to sure i like it if i'm honest , Especially the blue bar that follows you down the page
    And the font is dreadful
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    What's with this new layout :confused:
    What new layout? Am I missing something?:confused:
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I don't think there's much difference economically, their differences are social. I'm probably closer to Osbourne in principal.

    I thought the joke was quite good. Like when 'Mock the week' came up with the joke that Corbyn should appointed England manager because he has staying power and is popular among fanatics.. the problem is that he'd want to select 11 left wingers.
    The 'two left feet' punchline didn't work because that's not a used or known euphemism for being left wing. Should have said something about leaning to the left.

    ** Plus he stuttered in the delivery.

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