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    Can anyone tell me about some study material for literacy other than the one on the skill test website plz??
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    (Original post by siffatsaad)
    Oh Lord! I am totally confused now.Can anyone explain me if we have decided our 3 choices of universities and that we want to go through UCAS website for application also that we are applying for age group of 3-11,what is the search for training programmes about?Can anyone plz explain me....m really tensed now,the website is really confusing.
    The UCAS course search shows the unis that are running the course this year. There is a link to it a fee posts back. If you've already decided where you want to apply then that's fine. You don't need to get worried about it.
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    (Original post by siffatsaad)
    Oh Lord! I am totally confused now.Can anyone explain me if we have decided our 3 choices of universities and that we want to go through UCAS website for application also that we are applying for age group of 3-11,what is the search for training programmes about?Can anyone plz explain me....m really tensed now,the website is really confusing.
    I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. You use the search function to look for which providers are doing the training you want and when the applications open.
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    hello, I have been lurking for a while and want to thank all of you lovely forumites for the wealth of information you've given! I have written my personal statement. It has fewer than the 4000 characters, including spaces, so falls within the "rules" in that respect, however it is more than 47 lines so I'll have to see how it fits onto the application form. My husband reckons that each line on the form will probably contain 80 character spaces. I fear there may be some editing to be done on the day!

    Anyway, the reason I'm posting today is regarding referees. I have already arranged my academic reference, however my work placement reference is proving troublesome. The teacher for whom I volunteer is happy to write a reference for me, but UCAS states the following:

    'If you're providing a reference from a school where you have been employed or have done classroom observation, it must come from the Headteacher.'


    I am neither employed nor doing observations in the school, I volunteer there, so I think the teacher offering the reference will fall in this category, also taken from UCAS' site:

    'The other reference can be from someone who knows you from work or who can comment on your character and your potential as a teacher.'

    Do you think I can get away with that loophole? Incidentally it is where I did my 2 weeks observation :-S
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    (Original post by saara.m)
    I'm applying for Primary PGCE (and School Direct) at Trent and Derby too! You can't sit the skills test until you've applied as far as I'm aware, as long as you take it before you enroll that's the main issue.
    Oh cool! :-D
    And yeah, I emailed Derby and they said as long as the tests are booked by interview (if selected) it should be fine. I am getting excited about applying now, but also stressed!
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    (Original post by Mrs L)
    hello, I have been lurking for a while and want to thank all of you lovely forumites for the wealth of information you've given! I have written my personal statement. It has fewer than the 4000 characters, including spaces, so falls within the "rules" in that respect, however it is more than 47 lines so I'll have to see how it fits onto the application form. My husband reckons that each line on the form will probably contain 80 character spaces. I fear there may be some editing to be done on the day!

    Anyway, the reason I'm posting today is regarding referees. I have already arranged my academic reference, however my work placement reference is proving troublesome. The teacher for whom I volunteer is happy to write a reference for me, but UCAS states the following:

    'If you're providing a reference from a school where you have been employed or have done classroom observation, it must come from the Headteacher.'


    I am neither employed nor doing observations in the school, I volunteer there, so I think the teacher offering the reference will fall in this category, also taken from UCAS' site:

    'The other reference can be from someone who knows you from work or who can comment on your character and your potential as a teacher.'

    Do you think I can get away with that loophole? Incidentally it is where I did my 2 weeks observation :-S
    Awww, I didn't even think of this! And I've just emailed a Headteacher about a reference when I'd prefer it to come from the deputy head! But, I think you should be careful because by 'work' they mean paid work.. Like something you've done for a long time.

    The school I volunteered in I just volunteered for 4 weeks full-time so it's was like a work experience placement as I did help out etc but within that time I was able to observe.. If that makes sense. So if you just did work experience wouldn't that kind of be classed as classroom observations?


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    (Original post by Fabay)
    Awww, I didn't even think of this! And I've just emailed a Headteacher about a reference when I'd prefer it to come from the deputy head! But, I think you should be careful because by 'work' they mean paid work.. Like something you've done for a long time.

    The school I volunteered in I just volunteered for 4 weeks full-time so it's was like a work experience placement as I did help out etc but within that time I was able to observe.. If that makes sense. So if you just did work experience wouldn't that kind of be classed as classroom observations?


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    I agree. By 'classroom observations' I think they mean volunteering.


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    (Original post by jeffercake)
    I agree. By 'classroom observations' I think they mean volunteering.


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    Ah well, I can get a reference via the headteacher so I guess it's no big deal, it would just be so much more straight forward if the teacher could do it! Thanks for your replies. x
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    I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any Universities within a reasonable commute of my home that are offering the PGCE this year. It means I'm going to have to live away form home again and may decrease my chances of getting a job in the future. Does anyone know if PGCE students are generally allowed in halls?
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    Just realised one week today!!!!
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    Anyone considering doing a PGCE in Citizenship??

    I'm currently reading Law.
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    (Original post by cutebat)
    Just realised one week today!!!!
    AHHHHHHHHHHH! EXCITED (if it happens for me anyway lol!) x
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    (Original post by Mrs L)
    hello, I have been lurking for a while and want to thank all of you lovely forumites for the wealth of information you've given! I have written my personal statement. It has fewer than the 4000 characters, including spaces, so falls within the "rules" in that respect, however it is more than 47 lines so I'll have to see how it fits onto the application form. My husband reckons that each line on the form will probably contain 80 character spaces. I fear there may be some editing to be done on the day!

    Anyway, the reason I'm posting today is regarding referees. I have already arranged my academic reference, however my work placement reference is proving troublesome. The teacher for whom I volunteer is happy to write a reference for me, but UCAS states the following:

    'If you're providing a reference from a school where you have been employed or have done classroom observation, it must come from the Headteacher.'


    I am neither employed nor doing observations in the school, I volunteer there, so I think the teacher offering the reference will fall in this category, also taken from UCAS' site:

    'The other reference can be from someone who knows you from work or who can comment on your character and your potential as a teacher.'

    Do you think I can get away with that loophole? Incidentally it is where I did my 2 weeks observation :-S

    I had a similar problem and wanted a class teacher, rather than the headteacher (who I've never met) to be my referee. I rang UCAS who were unsuprisingly very unhelpful and said just to contact the individual course providers you're applying to to see if they would allow it, but that ultimately they'd recommend you to get it from a headteacher.
    So now I'm putting my reference as the headteacher, but the class teacher has said she'll be the one writing it, he'll only look over it. I think that works best! (:
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    With regards to the reference: I would say that the headteacher is very likely to ask the class teacher that you were working with to help with the reference, so don't worry!
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    Volunteering in a school this work and really enjoying it. I'm going to be doing ten days in total, was there five days in June and five days this week. But I'm really nervous about asking for a reference! I've moved classrooms a lot so I haven't really seen any one teacher more than a couple of days each. I'm worried that ten days isn't enough to ask for a reference, but it's pretty much my only option...
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Volunteering in a school this work and really enjoying it. I'm going to be doing ten days in total, was there five days in June and five days this week. But I'm really nervous about asking for a reference! I've moved classrooms a lot so I haven't really seen any one teacher more than a couple of days each. I'm worried that ten days isn't enough to ask for a reference, but it's pretty much my only option...
    I think it would be ok. This was a while ago, but when I was in high school I did two weeks work experience. And when I was leaving the school, I just asked the Headteacher if it would be ok to put her as a referee (was only for my cv then) but she said yeah. Like I know what you mean like the teachers may not know you well, but they'd be able to comment on things that make you look good e.g. Showing up on time everyday can show your hardworking, asking them questions makes you look enthusiastic etc. and they are skills that a teacher would need.


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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Volunteering in a school this work and really enjoying it. I'm going to be doing ten days in total, was there five days in June and five days this week. But I'm really nervous about asking for a reference! I've moved classrooms a lot so I haven't really seen any one teacher more than a couple of days each. I'm worried that ten days isn't enough to ask for a reference, but it's pretty much my only option...
    Don't be silly! They know why you're there, so they should have guessed that you will need a reference! The teachers who work in your school would have had plenty of references themselves, they understand!
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    (Original post by wildrover)
    I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any Universities within a reasonable commute of my home that are offering the PGCE this year. It means I'm going to have to live away form home again and may decrease my chances of getting a job in the future. Does anyone know if PGCE students are generally allowed in halls?
    Of course they are! There's normally post grad halls

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    (Original post by jeffercake)
    Don't be silly! They know why you're there, so they should have guessed that you will need a reference! The teachers who work in your school would have had plenty of references themselves, they understand!

    (Original post by Fabay)
    I think it would be ok. This was a while ago, but when I was in high school I did two weeks work experience. And when I was leaving the school, I just asked the Headteacher if it would be ok to put her as a referee (was only for my cv then) but she said yeah. Like I know what you mean like the teachers may not know you well, but they'd be able to comment on things that make you look good e.g. Showing up on time everyday can show your hardworking, asking them questions makes you look enthusiastic etc. and they are skills that a teacher would need.


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    Thanks, you've both made me feel much better! All the people I've worked with have been lovely so far so I'm sure they'll give me a good reference, it's a great school. I just feel so grateful about being allowed to volunteer that I daren't ask them for anything else! Haha.
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    (Original post by wildrover)
    I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any Universities within a reasonable commute of my home that are offering the PGCE this year. It means I'm going to have to live away form home again and may decrease my chances of getting a job in the future. Does anyone know if PGCE students are generally allowed in halls?
    It depends a lot on the uni, and usually also on your circumstances.

    Many unis don't even have enough accommodation to guarantee undergrads a place, let alone postgrads. If you are from further away you'll usually have a higher priority, and similarly if you live down the road you're unlikely to get something.

    It's worth considering that a lot of the year will be spent on placement which may be a fair distance from the uni itself, so it's not common (in my experience, which is just anecdotal) for PGCE students to live in halls. There is usually a higher demand for placements nearer the uni as well - so it may be that you will be able to get a placement near home and live there for part of the time. However, this can still be awkward for travelling and wouldn't be guaranteed as they have to work around everyone's needs for placements.

    The best thing to do is contact the unis you are interested in and ask them!

    Also I wouldn't panic too much about employability, the most important thing location wise is being as flexible as possible (which is not always very much! I didn't want to leave my city for a job). Many people move back home after PGCEs and forge careers there, it doesn't have to be where you train.

    xxx
 
 
 
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