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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    You've got that the wrong way round. Appeasing Hamas would require destroying Israel.
    So Gaza is not in a blockade?
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    So Gaza is not in a blockade?
    When did I say that?
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    Wheres the proof that hamas is hiding in civicilan areas? Any video evidence?
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    "Head of Palestinian intelligence Majed Faraj turns up unexpectedly in Cairo just after the end of a meeting between Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas political chief Khaled Mashaal in Doha, Qatar.
    According to the Al-Mayadeen news station, Faraj brings with him to Cairo a draft for a ceasefire that is acceptable to Hamas. The deal is based on the proposal by UN General-Secretary Ban Ki-moon for a long-lasting humanitarian ceasefire along with guarantees for the lifting of the blockade on Gaza.
    Ban’s proposal is also based on the Egyptian mediation for a ceasefire — which first calls for an end to the fighting and afterwards consideration of further steps. According to the agreement between Mashaal and senior Hamas official Ismail Haniyeh, the Palestinian national unity government will be the one to guarantee the removal of the blockade on Gaza together with the US government.
    According to reports from Reuters, Egypt agrees to make changes to its ceasefire proposal to meet demands from Hamas.
    Among other things it is agreed that in the future the opening of the Rafah crossing is to be reviewed, the wages of officials will be transferred, and there will be an easing on the transfer of goods from Israel to the Gaza Strip. According to the plan, Abbas, Kerry, and Ban are to give a press conference tomorrow in Cairo and announce the ceasefire."
    – Avi Issacharoff


    Read more: Large rocket volleys shot at Tel Aviv area; clashes in Nazareth | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/kerry-h...#ixzz387VmPVlE
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    where is the video evidence that hamas is hiding in civilian areas? Also why do they keep bombing those areas when they know civilians are there? where is the proof they are handing out leaflets and proof of the warnings they are giving?
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    When did I say that?
    You said "I got it the wrong way around" so is Israel in a blockade?
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    Move forward to:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YSO31A4gM#t=220

    3:36

    Now if Israel never implemented the iron dome, imagine the bloodshed. Hamas has not accepted a truce, this whole situation started over 3 innocent israeli teenagers being murdered.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    last two sentences were merely emotional pleas. They were playing football, innocent civilians do get hurt in War ask the USA just like the 3 innocent israeli teenagers butchered by terrorists.

    With Capitalism not capitalists, if you work hard you get ahead. No rules in capitalism.
    Oh the Capitalists have rules alright. Ask any democratic socialist in Latin America who thinks of putting the interests of their citizens ahead of corporate interests and they'll quickly tell you.

    I don't condone the killing of Israeli teenagers nor the shelling of Israeli towns by Hamas. You'll be surprised to hear that I support Israels right to a peaceful existence.

    The US would know all about hurting innocent civilians alright.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    You said "I got it the wrong way around" so is Israel in a blockade?
    I meant that Gaza would not be under a blockade if Hamas weren't firing rockets.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    I don't have to prove that the Israeli's fired first.

    In fact, you have not proved that HAMAS fired first as the link you gave me made no mention of that "fact".

    By default, that £20 is now mine. When do you want me to collect?
    I'm the one running the contest therefore I get to set any requirements for winning.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    I meant that Gaza would not be under a blockade if Hamas weren't firing rockets.
    Harsher blockade measure were placed after the HAMAS election win.
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    Israel has broken the most amount of UN resolutions since the formation of United Nations. Iraq broke 2 and got invaded and destroyed.
    Israeli terrorist attacks have been going on long before the formation of Hamas, it's not only Hamas to blame. Both Israeli government and Hamas have perpetuated conflict, but it is the innocent people of Palestine that are suffering.

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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    Independent observers (including the Egyptians) admit that Hamas broke the ceasefire first, they have themselves and only themselves to blame
    LOOOOOOOOOL

    Are you ignorant?

    Eygpt hates Hamas as much as the Muslim brotherhood. I would not call them independent.
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    (Original post by Unruly Marmite)
    Firstly, I don't think Israel should have been created anyway, but if it had to be created Europe would probably have been best, though that wouldn't wash. I'll ignore the clearly facetious tone of your response.
    Secondly, using Latin doesn't make you look clever. It makes you look pretentious. However, last I knew, Hamas is not a state, it isn't even the ruling party of Palestine, so it doesn't have civilians. And, even if it did, the Israeli armed forces do not purposefully target civilians, the deaths of civilians are a result of Hamas hiding among the populace to provoke this kind of response. What are Israeli armed forces supposed to do, allow Hamas to fire rockets at their cities unopposed?
    Thirdly, the point about the USA may be true, so I shall amend it. How many countries have been under attack by a group intent on wiping them from the face of the Earth and surrounded by nations that are, at best, unfriendly? This would trend to breed a certain degree of ruthlessness, I would assume.
    The king of westeros agrees
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    (Original post by Wilsoncw1997)


    Look at how much good Israel has done. Israel is avoiding civilians, while Gaza aims at civilians.
    Let me cure your Ignorance.

    1) It is Hamas's military wing which is firing the rockets not the 1.5 million gazan refugees

    2) It is not enough, and many of the times these thing dont happen such as the 4 kid's playing football on the beach.

    The fact of the matter is bombing left right and center in the most densely populated area in the world, due to Israel, causes deaths.

    400+ people have been killed yet you say it is goood.


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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    They admitted full culpability and apologised for the slaughter of the innocent children and paid reparations to their families.

    Back in reality...




    I agree.

    "They admitted full culpability and apologised for the slaughter of the innocent children and paid reparations to their families."

    No they don't. Their have been many times when zionist settlers in west bank have shot palestinian teenagers and Israel has not taken responsiblility.

    Israel has:

    • Stolen land
    • Blocked aid
    • Killed innocent civilians even if it was by "accident"
    • Created setllements.
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    (Original post by ridwan12)
    "They admitted full culpability and apologised for the slaughter of the innocent children and paid reparations to their families."

    No they don't. Their have been many times when zionist settlers in west bank have shot palestinian teenagers and Israel has not taken responsiblility.
    I think you misunderstood. I was being sarcastic, hence the 'back in reality...'.
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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    I think you misunderstood. I was being sarcastic, hence the 'back in reality...'.
    Glad to hear that .

    Can't stand Isreali zionist apologists.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    Harsher blockade measure were placed after the HAMAS election win.
    Yes, because that gave them more power. Hamas is a known terrorist entity which wants to destroy Israel. How can you blame Israel for placing a blockade over their regime?
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    Proof that Zionists have no morals: http://972mag.com/nstt_feeditem/isra...can-deter-him/
 
 
 
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