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    (Original post by Danny129)
    Thanks I will pass on the advice to her. Regarding preparation for entrance exams when is the deadline for her to take the exam/exams. Also do you know anyone who went from Nursing to Grad Med from either personal Exprerience or on TSR? She is really passionate about a career in Medicine but is worried that she will be sidelined to those who come from science heavy degrees eg.Biochem etc.

    In your experience which uni is the 'easiest' per se to get into?

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    If she finishes in January there is not reason why she cannot apply this year. Granted it is too late for decent GAMSAT prep but she could still take the UKCAT.

    Nursing is both a benefit or a hindrance when it comes down to degree suitability for GEM. On one hand it offers plenty of experiences and insight to allow her to explain her reasonings for wanting to switch to medicine and understanding what a career in medicine entails. On the other hand it is not heavily science based, so it may limit her if she does not have a-level Chemistry behind her. That said, I think Kings is still accepting it even though they have started only allowing life science degrees.

    It is a shame that Leicester have stopped their GEM programme as it was the only one who required caring work experience, though she would not have qualified for it straight away. She needs to be able to clearly articulate her reasons for wanting to switch and how she can adapt the skills she has gained from nursing.

    My final point is she really needs to look in to it. It is one thing to admire the Drs she works with and want their job. But does she really know what she is signing up for? Has she looked at what the degree entails (it is a whole different ballgame to a nursing degree) and talked to current doctors about the good and (unfortunately many) bad points?

    I am certainly not the only one who has made the switch, so it certainly is possible.
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    On the open day the admission tutor mentioned the following:

    "Emphasis will be placed this year on the VR section wherein applicants that fall in the bottom trait are immediately rejected, which are scores that fall below the mean national average as quoted from the UKCAT to be 571 for 2014. The UKCAT is then scored on a point basis with no given cut-off scores, as these change on a year by year basis.

    Further points are then awarded from academic qualifications, with post-graduate qualifications (MSc/PhD) lowering the required UKCAT cut-off score needed for an interview".

    Hope that helps! And so far, it seems that the VR and DA sections are going to be rather low this year...

    Really helpful! I'm applying for Warwick this year, as long as ukcat is up to scratch. What makes you say vr and da sections will be low?
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    So, I messed up my UKCAT yesterday...

    Avr. 697.5
    VR 620
    QR 880
    AR 660
    DA 630
    SJ Band 1

    I graduated this year with a comfortable first (78%) in Biochemistry and need to work this year to be able to save some money. I don't have A Level Chemistry which really seems to be a problem. Is it actually worth applying with this UKCAT score as my only real options with UKCAT and no chem A Level are Newcastle, Warwick, Queens, and kings (ha, yeah right).Is it worth contacting some universities and asking in my Biochem undergrad in any way compensates for my lack of chem A Level?

    Thanks!
    This is still a good score and may be competitive enough depending on how people do! Can I ask what went wrong for you if you were expecting 750? And what was QR like if you got such a high score???


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    Thanks to whoever posted the link to this website www.applyingformedicine.co.uk
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    (Original post by ZJT)
    So, I messed up my UKCAT yesterday...

    Avr. 697.5
    VR 620
    QR 880
    AR 660
    DA 630
    SJ Band 1

    I graduated this year with a comfortable first (78%) in Biochemistry and need to work this year to be able to save some money. I don't have A Level Chemistry which really seems to be a problem. Is it actually worth applying with this UKCAT score as my only real options with UKCAT and no chem A Level are Newcastle, Warwick, Queens, and kings (ha, yeah right).Is it worth contacting some universities and asking in my Biochem undergrad in any way compensates for my lack of chem A Level?

    Thanks!
    Aside from fact I haven't taken ukcat yet, I'm in same position- graduated 78%, no chemistry a level, I would still apply, especially with Warwick in mind! Have you thought about Birmingham? They don't use ukcat or anything.
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    (Original post by Absorbaloff)
    Some uni's don't care what course you studied, eg Warwick, St George's, Swansea, but places like Imperial and Bristol don't accept professional courses like nursing. You still have to be tactical, St George's only takes 30 students and you certainly don't want to have to do all three entrance exams.



    Since she's a January starter, she won't finish until Jan? She can do Gamsat and UKCAT in 2016. I've just finished adult nursing, and there is also another adult nurse on my course afaik, you won't be sidelined just because you have a nursing degree, if anything it looks good as you have a vast amount of experience. The only problem is that nursing is a professional degree in itself, so you better have a really good answer to why you're switching careers.

    There are no easy options, this is the hunger games.
    That's really true... Some unis will really stretch you out on why switching a professional career in similar field for another...I had similar problem when I attended interview and being an odp, I got told point blank I was testing careers to see which one works best for me though I was able to bring out an answer to support my situation

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    (Original post by Richardjamesford)
    Aside from fact I haven't taken ukcat yet, I'm in same position- graduated 78%, no chemistry a level, I would still apply, especially with Warwick in mind! Have you thought about Birmingham? They don't use ukcat or anything.
    Also Bristol is one for no admissions test but you do need AAB at A Level with A in chemistry which is frustrating for many. I'd definitely consider Birmingham with a first!


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    (Original post by kgee)
    That's really true... Some unis will really stretch you out on why switching a professional career in similar field for another...I had similar problem when I attended interview and being an odp, I got told point blank I was testing careers to see which one works best for me though I was able to bring out an answer to support my situation

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    Wow, that's a really shi*ty position to put you in. I can't imagine other applicants in other professions being asked if they're testing careers :|

    I think the problem with applying as an AHP or nurse/midwife will always lead to the 'why are you turning away from your profession' (as Cambridge worded it), or 'well its similar to medicine, so how do you know its for you' :unimpressed:
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    (Original post by ForestCat)
    If she finishes in January there is not reason why she cannot apply this year. Granted it is too late for decent GAMSAT prep but she could still take the UKCAT.

    Nursing is both a benefit or a hindrance when it comes down to degree suitability for GEM. On one hand it offers plenty of experiences and insight to allow her to explain her reasonings for wanting to switch to medicine and understanding what a career in medicine entails. On the other hand it is not heavily science based, so it may limit her if she does not have a-level Chemistry behind her. That said, I think Kings is still accepting it even though they have started only allowing life science degrees.

    It is a shame that Leicester have stopped their GEM programme as it was the only one who required caring work experience, though she would not have qualified for it straight away. She needs to be able to clearly articulate her reasons for wanting to switch and how she can adapt the skills she has gained from nursing.

    My final point is she really needs to look in to it. It is one thing to admire the Drs she works with and want their job. But does she really know what she is signing up for? Has she looked at what the degree entails (it is a whole different ballgame to a nursing degree) and talked to current doctors about the good and (unfortunately many) bad points?

    I am certainly not the only one who has made the switch, so it certainly is possible.
    Thanks so much for the great response especially from a fellow nurse who has made the switch. When you say apply this year do mean for 2016 entry? If so how long will this leave her for prep for GAMSAT?

    She completely understands the bad sides of applying to medicine as I have mentioned before she originally wanted to study medicine but a low grades at a level slowed her down. I agree with Leicester stopping their GEM course. She is planning to apply to Newcastle, Warwick,St George's and Kings. But is still undecided about this as she is contemplating about UKCAT and GAMSAT.

    Finally, may I ask which uni do you attend? Also what your academic credentials when applying?

    Thanks again, and cool name
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    (Original post by Danny129)
    Thanks so much for the great response especially from a fellow nurse who has made the switch. When you say apply this year do mean for 2016 entry? If so how long will this leave her for prep for GAMSAT?

    She completely understands the bad sides of applying to medicine as I have mentioned before she originally wanted to study medicine but a low grades at a level slowed her down. I agree with Leicester stopping their GEM course. She is planning to apply to Newcastle, Warwick,St George's and Kings. But is still undecided about this as she is contemplating about UKCAT and GAMSAT.

    Finally, may I ask which uni do you attend? Also what your academic credentials when applying?

    Thanks again, and cool name
    Yes. The deadline for applications for 2016 entry is 15th October, meaning she would have to get a wriggle on. GAMSAT is on the 9th September this year meaning its not feasible for this year. However she has up until the start of October to sit the UKCAT, which would still allow her to appy for Newcastle, Warwick and Kings depending on her score. If she has chemistry then Southampton is also an option if she scores well enough on UKCAT.

    I'm at Leicester. I have ABBC at a-level (Maths, bio, chem and f.maths) and a 1st in my nursing degree. I had been qualified 3 years before I started but I do know people who've gone straight from nursing to med.
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    This is still a good score and may be competitive enough depending on how people do! Can I ask what went wrong for you if you were expecting 750? And what was QR like if you got such a high score???

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    VR and AR were both towards the bottom end of my expectations from practice tests but within the sort of range I was expecting. However, DA (along with QR) was my strong point and I have consistently scored 800+ for the 600Q, the 3 the online ukcat papers and the Kaplan book. After the exam I felt confident I'd scored in the 800+ range and was very surprised by my result, the section certainly didn't feel any more challenging and I was comfortable for time.QR. I don't really know what to say on it; I find/found this section very simple. The feeling of impending doom you get when trying to complete the 600Q practice questions within a time limit is in no way representative of the real test, the ukcat online practice tests are much closer. I know there are areas where I'm very strong and areas where I'm weaker, I guess/flag whole blocks of questions when they're not my most comfortable, quickly complete the ones I feel most confident with and review the others when I've got banked time to play with and therefor not as stressed.
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    (Original post by ninalouise258)
    I have my UKCAT and GAMSAT very soon and I'm way behind on revision. I have 11 weeks til I hand in my PhD thesis. I've never felt so tired and foggy in my life - I thought it was just stress affecting my body but I got my bloods back on Friday. I honestly thought I was going crazy, I'm usually so glad to be busy and motivated to do it all. I'm not sure how long it will be before I feel better and I'm scared I'll flunk these exams and possibly my viva and then I'll be screwed! I'm not sure if I have pernicious anaemia or if it is simply diet related. It's encouraging to know you are carrying on with everything despite that. just freaking out I guess. Thanks for the reply


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    That does sound like a lot to handle! I hope you feel well enough soon that you can still feel like applying. Could you cut down to just UKCAT so not to miss out this year entirely?
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    (Original post by ninalouise258)
    That's a good idea. I have the weird stance of being from a physics background so I have to go to 'any subject' unis as the 'science only' ones seem to want Bio or Chem degrees. Planned choices are Newcastle, Warwick, Nottingham and Swansea. My A levels are maths, physics and graphic design. If I could only go back and have done Chemistry haha!


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    Ahh I see. Yeah it would be a shame to cut out half your options out. But at least it would give you a run at applying this year and if nothing else its practice at applying and the UKCAT.
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    Yes. The deadline for applications for 2016 entry is 15th October, meaning she would have to get a wriggle on. GAMSAT is on the 9th September this year meaning its not feasible for this year. However she has up until the start of October to sit the UKCAT, which would still allow her to appy for Newcastle, Warwick and Kings depending on her score. If she has chemistry then Southampton is also an option if she scores well enough on UKCAT.

    I'm at Leicester. I have ABBC at a-level (Maths, bio, chem and f.maths) and a 1st in my nursing degree. I had been qualified 3 years before I started but I do know people who've gone straight from nursing to med.
    She is currently also in the middle of writing her dissertation so is trying to juggle both at the same time. For her fourth option what would you suggest as she doesn't have a strong grade for chemistry at a level. So Southampton wouldn't be an option.

    This a message to everyone on the thread: I would appreciate any resources that you could give to help me with my preparation for the UKCAT. This includes everything from books to links online which h have really helped you get a high score on the UKCAT. Also it could simply be personal experience of taking the test and things you did to get a high score on the test.
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    (Original post by Danny129)
    She is currently also in the middle of writing her dissertation so is trying to juggle both at the same time. For her fourth option what would you suggest as she doesn't have a strong grade for chemistry at a level. So Southampton wouldn't be an option.

    This a message to everyone on the thread: I would appreciate any resources that you could give to help me with my preparation for the UKCAT. This includes everything from books to links online which h have really helped you get a high score on the UKCAT. Also it could simply be personal experience of taking the test and things you did to get a high score on the test.
    I took the test a couple of weeks ago and got 772.5 average.

    The only resources I used were the Kaplan Score Higher book and Medify (an online revision resource), as well as the official mocks on the UKCAT website.
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    (Original post by Danny129)
    She is currently also in the middle of writing her dissertation so is trying to juggle both at the same time. For her fourth option what would you suggest as she doesn't have a strong grade for chemistry at a level. So Southampton wouldn't be an option.

    This a message to everyone on the thread: I would appreciate any resources that you could give to help me with my preparation for the UKCAT. This includes everything from books to links online which h have really helped you get a high score on the UKCAT. Also it could simply be personal experience of taking the test and things you did to get a high score on the test.
    The main ukcat thread is a good place to start. I personally used two books (the 600q book which is a bit outdated and the QR is ridiculous and the ukcat for dummies) to get to grips with the test and then Medify for the bulk of my practice.

    I am not sure about the 4th option TBH. Barts perhaps... but this would all bank on her doing well in the UKCAT. She would need to check with Barts whether nursing would preclude her from needing BB (in chem and bio) at A-level because I am not sure nursing contains enough science.
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    (Original post by ForestCat)
    The main ukcat thread is a good place to start. I personally used two books (the 600q book which is a bit outdated and the QR is ridiculous and the ukcat for dummies) to get to grips with the test and then Medify for the bulk of my practice.

    I am not sure about the 4th option TBH. Barts perhaps... but this would all bank on her doing well in the UKCAT. She would need to check with Barts whether nursing would preclude her from needing BB (in chem and bio) at A-level because I am not sure nursing contains enough science.
    I contacted Barts and they said she would still need as level chem and bio at grade B so still unsure about 4th option
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    (Original post by Danny129)
    I contacted Barts and they said she would still need as level chem and bio at grade B so still unsure about 4th option
    Then I'm not too sure then. Perhaps apply for 3 this year, depending on how the ukcat goes. And if she's unsuccessful try again next year and take the GAMSAT as well.
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    (Original post by ninalouise258)
    That's a good idea. I have the weird stance of being from a physics background so I have to go to 'any subject' unis as the 'science only' ones seem to want Bio or Chem degrees. Planned choices are Newcastle, Warwick, Nottingham and Swansea. My A levels are maths, physics and graphic design. If I could only go back and have done Chemistry haha!


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