Hmm, not a huge fan of this.
It seems that you lot are angry at the "soft touch" nature of prisons and have come up with this as a fudging solution. Bizarre.
The argument that 'prisoners are human too' isn't that in touch with reality.
As punishment for their crimes, convicts are stripped of most basic freedoms, from freedom of choice; freedom to choose what they wear, what they eat and where they go, to being forced to live in a specific location. The fact that their access to media and the outside world in general is restricted also means that they pretty much lose total freedom of speech.
Sure, prisoners are, of course, still the same species, but if human beings are entitled to a list of rights, rights which convicts do not receive, then that means that either our society already views them as inhuman, or our society is at least treating them as inhuman.
In other words, sure, prisoners are still homo sapiens, but that doesn't mean they're treated as humans. In that sense, anyone who's against this bill because it doesn't treat all humans as equal, should also have a problem with prisons and the judicial system itself.
A convict is not equal to an innocent, because an innocent has far more freedom in almost all areas of their life.
Not that this is necessarily a bad thing - a judicial system is vital to keep order in society. In fact, I'm sure many would argue that law and order are vital for a society to even exist. But it also means that convicts will never be equal to innocents.
And, again, that's not a bad thing - if you commit a crime, you are essentially accepting the possible consequences of that crime. Murderers and rapists should indeed be seperated from innocents. But, still, in order to seperate criminals from innocents, you have to treat them that way.
So, my poorly explained point is; anyone who believes that prisoners should be treated as equal human beings, has a problem with the idea of jail, and the judicial system, not with this particular bill.
What people have over looked is that the TSR Conservatives are just removing prisoners abilities to use the human rights act. That doesn't stop them having human rights does it? Or do human rights only exist because of that piece of paper?
This is insane! Prisoners are human beings and should therefore be protected by the Human Rights Act. And sure, they've committed crimes, but not all criminals are bad people. Some are trying to rehabilitate themselves and who knows how many have been victims of unjust persecution? This is basically how England is going to start stripping away our rights, starting with prisoners and gradually moving up until we find ourselves without any rights at all and no idea how it happened. At least that's how I feel. Little bit scared now, are we soon going to be seeing an English Guantanamo bay?