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    (Original post by INTJ)
    You assert this based on what? Your experiences? In my experience, people have ONLY heard of UCL out of the three. Swings and roundabouts.

    As for your employment/salary statistics, I have found sources which actually put KCL below all of those.
    Please it would be interesting to see the employment/salary statistics sources you have found. Please show it like I did so we can learn.

    And honestly, stop the BSing, KCL is one of the most discussed universities on College Confidential, which is the USA version of TSR, along with Oxbridge, LSE, St Andrews, Edinburgh, UCL, Durham, Manchester, QMW and Essex.

    KCL is as well known as UCL in the rest of the world. Both are not as well known as LSE.

    If KCL is not that well known, how can it have so much foreign students?
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    (Original post by jthlm)
    I've never been to King's or really done much research, but I applied there this year because I had an extra choice left and I remembered watching a programme when I was younger about the discovery of DNA, and they kept talking about KCL and I just instantaneously thought I wanted to go there 'when I grew up', haha. (Stupid, I know! And naive!) Even though DNA has got absolutely nothing to do with English, which I've applied to do!

    But anyway, this thread gives me no hope! Surely it can't be that bad! Irrespective of the notable alumni, I've always heard good things about it... I got told by a London uni student that the best all-round good universities in London are UCL and King's (she didn't include LSE as it doesn't do the subject I want so that's irrelevant to me). But you TSRians seem to disagree entirely...
    This is how little kids are misled by the likes of ignorants like INTJ.

    Obviously LSE will not be mentioned as one of the best all round universities in London as it is a specialist school.

    KCL is pretty strong for English. From your UCAS choices, I will think Bristol and KCL are your strongest choices and, honestly, their is really not much difference in reputation between the 2, so just go to the one you think has the best fit for you. Whichever of the 2 you go to, you will be going to one fo the TOP UNIVERSITIES in the UK.

    In regards to reputation, it is:

    - Oxbridge

    - LSE/Imperial

    - UCL, Warwick, KCL, Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, St Andrews, Nottingham
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    Please it would be interesting to see the employment/salary statistics sources you have found. Please show it like I did so we can learn.

    And honestly, stop the BSing, KCL is one of the most discussed universities on College Confidential, which is the USA version of TSR, along with Oxbridge, LSE, St Andrews, Edinburgh, UCL, Durham, Manchester, QMW and Essex.

    KCL is as well known as UCL in the rest of the world. Both are not as well known as LSE.

    If KCL is not that well known, how can it have so much foreign students?
    As far as international reputation goes...UCL is much stronger than KCL. I wouldn't go by what college confidential says, as most Americans go to Edinburgh or St. Andrews. I haven't met anyone in the US thats heard of KCL--this includes people in academia. UCL has the upper hand.
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    Cos noone cayaaz bout KCL
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    (Original post by adam0311)
    As far as international reputation goes...UCL is much stronger than KCL. I wouldn't go by what college confidential says, as most Americans go to Edinburgh or St. Andrews. I haven't met anyone in the US thats heard of KCL--this includes people in academia. UCL has the upper hand.
    UCL might have the upperhand but I would not say it is that far off and definitely the gap is less than what LSE has on UCL.

    In comparison the international reputation will be a comparison of reputation will be similar in disparity to LSE=Stanford/Imp=Caltech/UCL=Berkeley/KCL=UCLA.

    UCLA might not have the topmost reputation in the states but it would be silly to say it is not known at all.

    In college confidential, KCL is often discussed and respected. KCL is also very popular in the Middle East and Asia. Less than UCL, but not far off.

    And in regards to academia, you surely do not know alot of academics then, as I think KCL is fairly respected:

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...&postcount=100

    And according to QS, KCL is 7th in UK in rankings by academic peers, above Warwick, UCL is 4th.
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    UCL might have the upperhand but I would not say it is that far off and definitely the gap is less than what LSE has on UCL.

    In comparison the international reputation will be a comparison of reputation will be similar in disparity to LSE=Stanford/Imp=Caltech/UCL=Berkeley/KCL=UCLA.

    UCLA might not have the topmost reputation in the states but it would be silly to say it is not known at all.

    In college confidential, KCL is often discussed and respected. KCL is also very popular in the Middle East and Asia. Less than UCL, but not far off.
    I'm not sure LSE, imperial and UCL/KCL are comparable on the same level to those sorts of Universities.

    Considering LSE and Imperial are far less multi-faculty and are more specialist colleges than UCL/KCL, it's hard to put them in a "league" along with the likes of Stanford.

    That and I really don't think LSE is comparable to Stanford. that's a massive overestimate in my opinion.

    One of the highest regarded colleges in the US is MIT, but because it's a technology college it can't be regarded in "leagues" along with the others and nobody compares it to british universities, I'd say LSE and Imperial should be regarded in the same way.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    I'm not sure LSE, imperial and UCL/KCL are comparable on the same level to those sorts of Universities.

    Considering LSE and Imperial are far less multi-faculty and are more specialist colleges than UCL/KCL, it's hard to put them in a "league" along with the likes of Stanford.

    That and I really don't think LSE is comparable to Stanford. that's a massive overestimate in my opinion.

    One of the highest regarded colleges in the US is MIT, but because it's a technology college it can't be regarded in "leagues" along with the others and nobody compares it to british universities, I'd say LSE and Imperial should be regarded in the same way.
    No, I was not equating direct cross-atlantic comparison. I was just stating the reputational gaps between London universities by using Californian universities' gaps.

    Here is a more fair assessment of cross-atlantic univerrsities:

    http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/top...tml#msg5905180

    LSE is not in the class of Stanford, but MIT is definitely in the class of the top unis. MIT has a very strong wow factor. It is so frequent to hear Americans talk about HYPSM as the topmost unis, which are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT.
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    (Original post by Miyavi)
    You got served, ho.
    Fortunately I'm too thick to even understand this cyber-bullying.
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    No, I was not equating direct cross-atlantic comparison. I was just stating the reputational gaps between London universities by using Californian universities' gaps.

    Here is a more fair assessment of cross-atlantic univerrsities:

    http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/top...tml#msg5905180

    LSE is not in the class of Stanford, but MIT is definitely in the class of the top unis. MIT has a very strong wow factor. It is so frequent to hear Americans talk about HYPSM as the topmost unis, which are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT.
    I agree with your comparison to cali unis. That's probably right on par.
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    Fortunately I'm too thick to even understand this cyber-bullying.
    Do you need some american reinforcement from this cyber-attack?
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    (Original post by adam0311)
    Do you need some american reinforcement from this cyber-attack?
    Lol I recognise you from the 'rah' thread! You're a good back-up to have!

    Why are they asking me why I'm in England for?
    Is this racism?
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    because kings and GKT are just signposts waiting to be stolen.

    that's the ICSM view
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    Lol I recognise you from the 'rah' thread! You're a good back-up to have!

    Why are they asking me why I'm in England for?
    Is this racism?
    Don't worry, I got you.


    (Original post by Miyavi)
    You got served, ho.
    Yo brahh why you talkin' trash to ma' girl?
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    Fortunately I'm too thick to even understand this cyber-bullying.
    Just bend over and take it then.
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    is kings college philosophy hard to get into? are they really strict with grades?
    I was thinking of applying but i might be a couple grades below the requirements with the exception of an A
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    UCL might have the upperhand but I would not say it is that far off and definitely the gap is less than what LSE has on UCL.

    In comparison the international reputation will be a comparison of reputation will be similar in disparity to LSE=Stanford/Imp=Caltech/UCL=Berkeley/KCL=UCLA.

    UCLA might not have the topmost reputation in the states but it would be silly to say it is not known at all.

    In college confidential, KCL is often discussed and respected. KCL is also very popular in the Middle East and Asia. Less than UCL, but not far off.

    And in regards to academia, you surely do not know alot of academics then, as I think KCL is fairly respected:

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...&postcount=100

    And according to QS, KCL is 7th in UK in rankings by academic peers, above Warwick, UCL is 4th.
    :rolleyes: Look, you and a minority of others (maybe 2 others) are the only one(s) who think that KCL has the same sort of reputation as UCL. As for LSE being in a different league to UCL, you have shown NOTHING to prove this. I did look for the sources, but I genuinely couldn't find the exact pages I was looking for. Yes, that sounds like an excuse; but, either way, I have seen several sources that rank the universities differently to the source you gave. What does that mean? It simply means that nothing is definite.

    HOWEVER, what cannot be ignored is the fact that there is a reason why 99% of people (including most KCL students) admit that UCL is in a different league to KCL. And you are the only one who continually argues that LSE is in a separate league. Seriously ,I do not know anybody else who says that. Moreover, if you're looking at employment, it will be in favour of the LSE because it is a SPECIALIST institution, pumping out graduates who will go into a small spectrum of jobs. In other words: certain types of employer will go to the LSE first for a specific sort of student. If you're looking at Law, medicine, neuroscience, archaeology, art and design, UCL is ranked and regarded as one of the best in the world/the best for certain subjects. Shall we derogate points off the LSE for not producing scientists? Of course not.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    :rolleyes: Look, you and a minority of others (maybe 2 others) are the only one(s) who think that KCL has the same sort of reputation as UCL. As for LSE being in a different league to UCL, you have shown NOTHING to prove this. I did look for the sources, but I genuinely couldn't find the exact pages I was looking for. Yes, that sounds like an excuse; but, either way, I have seen several sources that rank the universities differently to the source you gave. What does that mean? It simply means that nothing is definite.

    HOWEVER, what cannot be ignored is the fact that there is a reason why 99% of people (including most KCL students) admit that UCL is in a different league to KCL. And you are the only one who continually argues that LSE is in a separate league. Seriously ,I do not know anybody else who says that. Moreover, if you're looking at employment, it will be in favour of the LSE because it is a SPECIALIST institution, pumping out graduates who will go into a small spectrum of jobs. In other words: certain types of employer will go to the LSE first for a specific sort of student. If you're looking at Law, medicine, neuroscience, archaeology, art and design, UCL is ranked and regarded as one of the best in the world/the best for certain subjects. Shall we derogate points off the LSE for not producing scientists? Of course not.
    INTJ, these are all excuses.

    The only evidences you ever produce are always claims like "I know tons of people ....", "Everyone says .....", "99% of people agree with me .....", "I have 2 million friends that got DDD and attended LSE and KCL ......". No facts but yet you dispute facts when put infront of you.

    I have shown you without doubt that LSE students are regarded as more intellectually exclusive than UCL students. Even in Consulting which is dissensitised to degree type and only looks at intellectual aptitude.

    Yes, UCL is better than KCL but in regards to what matters (i.e. employment), it is not any better than KCL because UCL has no wow factor like Oxbridge, LSE and Imperial. Those 4 are in a separate league in the real world outside TSR and amongst employers. It appears even KCL is better than UCL in regards to employment. No excuses.

    I have shown you that LSE and Imperial's average entry standard is way higher than UCL and KCL. KCL if not for its huge Nursing school has almost the same entry standard as UCL, so it is not like if UCL students are brain boxes or much better than KCL students on average.

    I have shown you that there are no employment opportunities available to UCL students that is not available to KCL students. And I have shown you LOADS that are available to LSE and Imperial students but not to UCL or KCL students.

    If you have evidence to show employers in Law, medicine, neuroscience, archaeology, art and design treat UCL as some special and exclusive bunch and do not give the same preferential treatments to other top universities like KCL, Edinburgh, Durham, Bristol, Warwick etc please produce it.

    Otherwise, it might be best you stop going about TSR like an arrogant, insecure troll that he attends UCL with a chip on his shoulder and wishes everyone sees it as some exclusive institution to overcome his inferiority complex. It is just one of the top universities without a wow factor and definitely not comparable to Oxford as you frequently like to claim on TSR.

    It is the best of the Top universities and should be compared to them, it is not in the league of the Top 4 "Wow" universities that are: Oxbridge, LSE and Imperial.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    :rolleyes: Look, you and a minority of others (maybe 2 others) are the only one(s) who think that KCL has the same sort of reputation as UCL
    1 other yesterday, now 2 others 2day.

    intj, you so crazy
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    INTJ, these are all excuses.

    The only evidences you ever produce are always claims like "I know tons of people ....", "Everyone says .....", "99% of people agree with me .....", "I have 2 million friends that got DDD and attended LSE and KCL ......". No facts but yet you dispute facts when put infront of you.

    I have shown you without doubt that LSE students are regarded as more intellectually exclusive than UCL students. Even in Consulting which is dissensitised to degree type and only looks at intellectual aptitude.

    Yes, UCL is better than KCL but in regards to what matters (i.e. employment), it is not any better than KCL because UCL has no wow factor like Oxbridge, LSE and Imperial. Those 4 are in a separate league in the real world outside TSR and amongst employers. It appears even KCL is better than UCL in regards to employment. No excuses.

    I have shown you that LSE and Imperial's average entry standard is way higher than UCL and KCL. KCL if not for its huge Nursing school has almost the same entry standard as UCL, so it is not like if UCL students are brain boxes or much better than KCL students on average.

    I have shown you that there are no employment opportunities available to UCL students that is not available to KCL students. And I have shown you LOADS that are available to LSE and Imperial students but not to UCL or KCL students.

    If you have evidence to show employers in Law, medicine, neuroscience, archaeology, art and design treat UCL as some special and exclusive bunch and do not give the same preferential treatments to other top universities like KCL, Edinburgh, Durham, Bristol, Warwick etc please produce it.

    Otherwise, it might be best you stop going about TSR like an arrogant, insecure troll that he attends UCL with a chip on his shoulder and wishes everyone sees it as some exclusive institution to overcome his inferiority complex. It is just one of the top universities without a wow factor and definitely not almost comparable to Oxford as you frequently like to claim on TSR. It is the best of the Top universities and should be compared to them, it is not in the league of the Top 4 "Wow" universities that are: Oxbridge, LSE and Imperial.
    1. Just look up the rankings for the subjects I mentioned! I am not going to collate all the data for you; you will have to do it yourself! It clearly matters to you, hence why you continue to debate it - so look it up and you will see!

    2. UCL aren't 'brainboxes'? I'm presuming you think LSE students are? Have you seen the entry requirements? I can find more AAA subjects at UCL than I can at the LSE. Also, I'm not the only one saying "I know a ton of people who got into the LSE with BBB", OTHERS say it and, in my experience and, evidently, many others', the LSE is not that much different.

    3. You have shown limited sources which contradict everything I've read/seen/heard.

    4. I am not bitter about going to UCL. I got into the LSE! If anything, you sound like a firebrand for the LSE, determined to prove a fallacy, that the LSE is in a league above UCL.
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    intj, you said you got into imperial a few weeks ago and you also got into lse.

    I think its time you told us your educational history...
 
 
 
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