Science graduates 'lack skills needed by business' Watch
I think it's just a question of setting off a spark in them. Showing them how things are constructed and how engineering works, and how science and maths are involved more often than not in day to day life. That's what my company tries to do however in an event of say 40 kids ten maybe a dozen at most will be interested with only a handful of those walking away determind to follow a career in STEM.
Some just don't want to know.
This is because you have "science courses" that require say, CCD to get on to.
Scrap those doss courses, and give more funding to the worthwhile institutes to improve their science intake. Problem solved.
I don't care if the Chemistry course at London Met is accredited. We don't need it; other universities deserve that extra funding.
science graduates are manifestly NOT an essential part of the economy despite what the STEM tedes tell you. how much 'scientific research' delivers the potential for profit in the short or medium term? not very much.
Just because you're a science graduate, it doesn't necessarily mean you're "top".
What I mean is that people are saying there aren't great prospects even for the top science graduates, not just an average science graduate who is pulled down by London Met's chemistry department or whatever.
But aren't they forced into business because of the extremely low salaries offered - around £20000 - because of myopia by research institutions like GSK. Why shouldn't they be in business anyway. The most successful biotechnology companies where started by a couple of graduates with a brilliant idea for a new drug or scaling up drug production so I don't see what the point your making there is.
You are one ignorant mother F***er aren't you!
Are you joking? STEM grads are an ESSENTIAL part of the economy. Scientific research has brought us to the stage we are today - your computer was designed and built by STEM grads - the bullets people shoot are designed by STEM grads - the TV you watch is built by STEM grads and the drugs you take are by STEM grads.
oh by the way over 5 million jobs in the UK are directly employed in the science sector..
30000 is a good salary particularly for a graduate but what I meant was that scientists can't surpass it at the height of their career whereas lorry drivers are earning 40000+ and even threatened to go on strike.
What graduates should do is if they find companies are offering them less or not as good progression as a non-graduate, boycott those companies - stick the proverbial middle finger up at them.
If that means leaving the country to get better paid roles where they will be more appreciated, then so be it.
Businesses and the government will soon learn they need to support their scientists and pay them proper money and give them proper progression.
Sorry, I just caught these comments when searching TSR. £30,000 is definitely not a low wage, especially if you have good money sense. My family are living on about £17,000 a year and we are doing so comfortably. This is because my parents never buy something they can't afford. They're doing so well that they are a couple of years away from paying off their mortgage too. We don't get anything extra from the government either although my mam doesn't work (housewife). There are six of us living in the house plus a dog and we have ONE car. Soo..
2. For those middle management, sales, etc. roles university skills are irrelevant. University ensures you have the right social background and are decently intelligent and hard working, but mostly it is down to your personality and work experience. So it doesn't stand to reason that if you can't do it as a science graduate that you would have had any more luck with a different degree.
Sorry, I just caught these comments when searching TSR. £30,000 is definitely not a low wage, especially if you have good money sense.
Was wondering who Fred Giblets was and what he was knighted for.