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    (Original post by DaniilKaya)
    crap , Russia will win
    You are undeniably bias though
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    (Original post by Dr00n)
    Ha, just do a bit of research and you'll see that Pakistan don't even compete with any top 10 military superpowers, whereas statistically India would be around 5th, arguably 4th
    USA
    Russia
    China
    India
    UK/France

    Debatable between Russia and USA for the first place
    Debatable between UK and India for fourth and fifth place.
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    (Original post by ChelseaFCCC)
    Without a doubt, USA and Russia are the most powerful countries on the planet, and we would never want to seem them go into a war against each other, never.

    -Both of these countries own around 90% of the worlds nuclear weapons, with Russia having about 10k (52%) and USA about 8k. Not sure if these statistics are correct or not tho, (just read about it)

    - Both of these countries can blow up the planet over 300 times.. (roughly)

    - USA have modern technology, and are more developed with potentially more troops

    - Russia are more experienced when it comes to wars. (everyone is disagreeing with this. Soviet Union contained most of the Russians, who were involved in WW2 and in Afghanistan)

    Without allies, or any nuclear weapons (of course) who would win?

    It's not 1980, brah.
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    (Original post by sugar-n-spice)
    >United States
    >Strongest nation on Earth for 67 years and counting
    >Highest GDP on Earth
    >Worth 51% of the global economy
    >Largest navy in the world
    >Has military bases on 1/3rd of the Earth
    >Only country with a functioning railgun
    >30 years technologically superior to any other opposing nation's military on Earth
    >Only military that has the industrial and technological capacity to mass produce unmanned drones
    >Developing a new generation of spaceships
    >Only country to have been to the Moon
    >Only country with a private sector actively working in space
    >Global center of the arts, humanities, education, finance, commerce, business, warfare, technology, industry, culture, politics and communication
    >Owns the most cities on the World Cities ranking chart
    >Won WWII singlehandedly
    >Never lost a war in its 237 year history
    >Leader of the free world

    Don't like us? No problem.
    At the end of the day, you are all American people. You follow our elections. You eat our food. You watch our movies and television shows. You wear our clothes. You copy our vernacular. You access American websites. You copy our Constitution and our laws. You read our books, ponder our art, use our weapons, drive our cars. The global economy is based on the US Dollar. Our military maintains bases on your soil. When our President speaks, you listen.

    You are ALL American people.
    (Original post by sugar-n-spice)


    I'm not even American. :rofl2:
    Then work on your pronouns and stop lying on the internet.
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    (Original post by Sir Fox)
    Without a doubt Russia is not one of the two most powerful countries in the world. China is the second most powerful nation on the planet.

    And currently the US would still beat anyone in a conventional war.

    This
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    how is russia not considered to be second/first most powerful country in the world?? they have enough nuclear weapons to destroy this planet more than 100 times. Only america can be compared to russia. Countries such as uk have enough nuclear weapons only to destroy russia.

    surely a country that has the power to absolutely blow this planet apart should be considered the most powerful country in the world.
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    (Original post by Idle)


    Goodnight any country in the world.
    Is that American?
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    (Original post by DaniilKaya)
    pointless waste of money doesn't mean anything
    OK, the Russian Air Force comprises roughly 750 Fighter/Inteceptor aircraft. However, in a dogfight the Mig-29 and Mig-31 come in below or at best, on par with the F-16. The USAF have 1,200 F-16 units in service. The F-22 surpasses anything the Russian Air Force currently has in operations. And then we mention that altogether the USAF has roughly 2,500 operationally ready fighter aircraft. When we compare the bomber of the two airforces, the outcome is similar.

    It's not even worth comparing Naval power, Russia is a dinghy to the Titanic of the the US Navy. Not to mention the fact that the US has 12 Carrier Battle Groups stocked with F-18's that would allow them to strike all over Russia at any given time with impunity .

    In a conventional war Russia could not hope to stand up to the USA, your talk is as transparent as Kim Jung Un's current sabre rattling.
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    Is that American?
    Russian
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    OK, the Russian Air Force comprises roughly 750 Fighter/Inteceptor aircraft. However, in a dogfight the Mig-29 and Mig-31 come in below or at best, on par with the F-16. The USAF have 1,200 F-16 units in service. The F-22 surpasses anything the Russian Air Force currently has in operations. And then we mention that altogether the USAF has roughly 2,500 operationally ready fighter aircraft. When we compare the bomber of the two airforces, the outcome is similar.

    It's not even worth comparing Naval power, Russia is a dinghy to the Titanic of the the US Navy. Not to mention the fact that the US has 12 Carrier Battle Groups stocked with F-18's that would allow them to strike all over Russia at any given time with impunity .

    In a conventional war Russia could not hope to stand up to the USA, your talk is as transparent as Kim Jung Un's current sabre rattling.
    Let's talk about Russian and American nukes
    Which is the best?
    Yes you are right, Russian
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    (Original post by DaniilKaya)
    Let's talk about Russian and American nukes
    Which is the best?
    Yes you are right, Russian
    But talking Nuclear is pointless. Both nations would de destroyed.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    But talking Nuclear is pointless. Both nations would de destroyed.
    No , by 2015 russia will send 50 military satelites and build 600 anti-balistic missiles

    American anti-air warfare is useless because of the USSR's creation of SS-27
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    Obviously the USA, although Russia does have military etc, its technology is outdated as they haven't really technologically progressed since the cold war like the US has.

    Even Britain and France have could win against Russia.

    Also if this happened, due to agreements over the past, you will probably find Canada, Britain, France and Australia joining the US forces in such a war and possibly other countries like Japan as well.

    Although China is close to Russia, its only for trading weapons etc, knowing China they won't fight for either side but would probably sell the Russians weapons.
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    (Original post by MsCourtney)
    Even Britain and France have could win against Russia.

    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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    (Original post by DaniilKaya)
    No , by 2015 russia will send 50 military satelites and build 600 anti-balistic missiles

    American anti-air warfare is useless because of the USSR's creation of SS-27
    Except the Minuteman III would penetrate all current Russian defence systems, the US already has military satellites, and you're assuming the US would allow the launch of the SS-27s, bearing in mind the US has thousands of Drones, and stealth bombers that Russia can only dream of. Any Nuclear event would destroy both nations, it you think anything else, you're denying reality.

    Oh, and Russia couldn't stop Trident missiles as far as I'm aware.
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    (Original post by MsCourtney)
    Obviously the USA, although Russia does have military etc, its technology is outdated as they haven't really technologically progressed since the cold war like the US has.

    Even Britain and France have could win against Russia.

    Also if this happened, due to agreements over the past, you will probably find Canada, Britain, France and Australia joining the US forces in such a war and possibly other countries like Japan as well.

    Although China is close to Russia, its only for trading weapons etc, knowing China they won't fight for either side but would probably sell the Russians weapons.

    yeah but there's no point talking about alliances because then everyone would get destroyed, Russia have strong alliances aswell. Britain and France wouldn't beat Russia
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    (Original post by Dr00n)
    yeah but there's no point talking about alliances because then everyone would get destroyed, Russia have strong alliances aswell. Britain and France wouldn't beat Russia
    That's just my opinion. And like I said, I believe Russia's alliances like Chine will not want to fight with the US, while US alliances will fight for the US (and many of them are obliged to do so because of past treaties).

    The British French and Canadian forces are quite strong.

    See this

    And Britain and France have much better technology than Russia. Russia just keeps manufacturing weapons of Soviet technology without innovation much.
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    (Original post by MsCourtney)

    And Britain and France have much better technology than Russia. Russia just keeps manufacturing weapons of Soviet technology without innovation much.
    It doesn't matter..... if its a war, both countries will use nuclear weapons. Britain nor france have enough nuclear weapons to completely wipe out russia from the map. On the other hand, Russia have enough nuclear weapons to blow up this planet.... think for yourself.
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    (Original post by ChelseaFCCC)
    It doesn't matter..... if its a war, both countries will use nuclear weapons. Britain nor france have enough nuclear weapons to completely wipe out russia from the map. On the other hand, Russia have enough nuclear weapons to blow up this planet.... think for yourself.
    Russia does not have the technology to launch nuclear weapons quickly anywhere there want unlike the states.

    Anyways if Russia and USA went to a big war, it would likely escalate to EU + UK + Australia + Canada + USA + Japan vs Russia (with PRC manufacturing but not fighting for Russia) IMO.

    In which case the states would win but it would be a devastating war.

    Now I don't think either country is stupid enough (Russia included) to start a nuclear war conflict.
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    (Original post by ChelseaFCCC)
    It doesn't matter..... if its a war, both countries will use nuclear weapons. Britain nor france have enough nuclear weapons to completely wipe out russia from the map. On the other hand, Russia have enough nuclear weapons to blow up this planet.... think for yourself.
    (Original post by ChelseaFCCC)
    Without allies, or any nuclear weapons (of course) who would win?
    Your question has been answered! It's the USA!
 
 
 
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