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    (Original post by kunoichi)
    http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/pcos.html

    http://www.endocrineonline.org/pdf%20box/pcos%2Bmet.pdf

    As a sufferer ive had ton of converstaions with different doctors and specialists all who say the same thing. Even if you are not obese you do have to watch your food constantly because it isnt about the ovaries, which is really just a symptom, it is about the insulin resistance problems.

    Again thyroid - 1 in 50 people is estimated

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical...thyroid1.shtml

    I fail to see how 5-10% of the human population (for pcos) and thats not including the guys that are thought to have some form of it, but little research has been done on that, is minimal.

    And like i said start including everything else that has effect on weight, you will see a considerable percentage of the population will probably have something that could contribute to weight gain.
    Well, my mother has a thyroid problem as well. She's prone to gaining weight. However, even though she's had three children, she looks amazing. And I'm not saying that cos she's my mom. She goes to the gym regularly and eats healthy, and does a lot of physical activity during the day- which means she has a great body even though she has a thyroid problem and is prone to being overweight, according to her doctors. This is actually not the kind of illness that would make it impossible for you to lose weight or whatever. You just need to take care of your body, take your meds and have regular check ups.
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    (Original post by kunoichi)
    http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/pcos.html

    http://www.endocrineonline.org/pdf%20box/pcos%2Bmet.pdf

    As a sufferer ive had ton of converstaions with different doctors and specialists all who say the same thing. Even if you are not obese you do have to watch your food constantly because it isnt about the ovaries, which is really just a symptom, it is about the insulin resistance problems.

    Again thyroid - 1 in 50 people is estimated

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical...thyroid1.shtml

    I fail to see how 5-10% of the human population (for pcos) and thats not including the guys that are thought to have some form of it, but little research has been done on that, is minimal.

    And like i said start including everything else that has effect on weight, you will see a considerable percentage of the population will probably have something that could contribute to weight gain.
    That first link says "
    By far the biggest lifestyle contributor to PCOS is poor diet.
    it's basically saying that being obese causes PCOS...
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    I haven't read the whole thread but I will add my thoughts. I've always been a little on the large side, not to the extent of being classed as obese but not at the healthy end of the normal BMI category either. I have made conscious efforts to lose weight even though as far as I can tell I generally eat healthily. My dad has CHD, used to be a smoker and is diabetic so we rarely have takeaways but recently we have been eating more sugary things and I've started baking which isn't good at a recent family wedding, I think 75% of the females in my family were noticeably overweight/obese. My immediate family is pretty much the same as me and I've sort of been conditioned into thinking I will never be slim or a healthy weight. When I try and avoid fatty foods I get told I'm making a big deal or "you're not dieting are you??" And guilted into eating things. I have no means of getting to a gym or paying for membership and I live in quite a rough area so when I've not had nice experiences jogging. I know it's a pathetic excuse but I do want to go to Loughborough because of the sporty reputation. I've never been good at sports but I do want to try and be healthy as well as control my meals and portion sizes. What I mean to say is, I may be considered unhealthy but I feel pretty stuck at the moment and I'm trying to change it. I did notice an improvement when I started using myfitness pal because I cut out the mindless snacking.

    What I don't like is the media telling us we're all obese, then saying big is beautiful because neither the overweight or naturally slim should be vilified. I have a friend with an under active thyroid who was bullied and a friend who is naturally skinny who was bullied. The obese should stop whining and make an effort, not to attain the supermodel anaemic look, but to be healthy. Some people are genuinely healthy but have a larger frame and are really tall so are a size 16 and some girls are naturally slender. There's nothing wrong with that. But yes, the relationship the nation has with its weight needs to change.

    Sorry for the life story/rant
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    (Original post by minthumbugs)
    I haven't read the whole thread but I will add my thoughts. I've always been a little on the large side, not to the extent of being classed as obese but not at the healthy end of the normal BMI category either. I have made conscious efforts to lose weight even though as far as I can tell I generally eat healthily. My dad has CHD, used to be a smoker and is diabetic so we rarely have takeaways but recently we have been eating more sugary things and I've started baking which isn't good at a recent family wedding, I think 75% of the females in my family were noticeably overweight/obese. My immediate family is pretty much the same as me and I've sort of been conditioned into thinking I will never be slim or a healthy weight. When I try and avoid fatty foods I get told I'm making a big deal or "you're not dieting are you??" And guilted into eating things. I have no means of getting to a gym or paying for membership and I live in quite a rough area so when I've not had nice experiences jogging. I know it's a pathetic excuse but I do want to go to Loughborough because of the sporty reputation. I've never been good at sports but I do want to try and be healthy as well as control my meals and portion sizes. What I mean to say is, I may be considered unhealthy but I feel pretty stuck at the moment and I'm trying to change it. I did notice an improvement when I started using myfitness pal because I cut out the mindless snacking.

    What I don't like is the media telling us we're all obese, then saying big is beautiful because neither the overweight or naturally slim should be vilified. I have a friend with an under active thyroid who was bullied and a friend who is naturally skinny who was bullied. The obese should stop whining and make an effort, not to attain the supermodel anaemic look, but to be healthy. Some people are genuinely healthy but have a larger frame and are really tall so are a size 16 and some girls are naturally slender. There's nothing wrong with that. But yes, the relationship the nation has with its weight needs to change.

    Sorry for the life story/rant
    Bring it on chunky cakes.
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    (Original post by slickrick666999)
    Bring it on chunky cakes.
    Wow
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    Oh and

    #bodyacceptance gets on my nerves

    Have fun accepting diabetes
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    (Original post by minthumbugs)
    I haven't read the whole thread but I will add my thoughts. I've always been a little on the large side, not to the extent of being classed as obese but not at the healthy end of the normal BMI category either. I have made conscious efforts to lose weight even though as far as I can tell I generally eat healthily. My dad has CHD, used to be a smoker and is diabetic so we rarely have takeaways but recently we have been eating more sugary things and I've started baking which isn't good at a recent family wedding, I think 75% of the females in my family were noticeably overweight/obese. My immediate family is pretty much the same as me and I've sort of been conditioned into thinking I will never be slim or a healthy weight. When I try and avoid fatty foods I get told I'm making a big deal or "you're not dieting are you??" And guilted into eating things. I have no means of getting to a gym or paying for membership and I live in quite a rough area so when I've not had nice experiences jogging. I know it's a pathetic excuse but I do want to go to Loughborough because of the sporty reputation. I've never been good at sports but I do want to try and be healthy as well as control my meals and portion sizes. What I mean to say is, I may be considered unhealthy but I feel pretty stuck at the moment and I'm trying to change it. I did notice an improvement when I started using myfitness pal because I cut out the mindless snacking.

    What I don't like is the media telling us we're all obese, then saying big is beautiful because neither the overweight or naturally slim should be vilified. I have a friend with an under active thyroid who was bullied and a friend who is naturally skinny who was bullied. The obese should stop whining and make an effort, not to attain the supermodel anaemic look, but to be healthy. Some people are genuinely healthy but have a larger frame and are really tall so are a size 16 and some girls are naturally slender. There's nothing wrong with that. But yes, the relationship the nation has with its weight needs to change.

    Sorry for the life story/rant
    I completely agree I'm sick of some people on here trying to defend being grossly overweight. As you said, some people are built bigger and some are built more slightly (I have the frame of a 10 year old) but until people are of a healthy size, no one should try to falsely compliment them on their "curves" which are just rolls of fat. If people can't help their weight then it's understandable, but our society portrays weight in such a bad light. A rant in response to your rant, over!
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    (Original post by Miss G)
    Well, my mother has a thyroid problem as well. She's prone to gaining weight. However, even though she's had three children, she looks amazing. And I'm not saying that cos she's my mom. She goes to the gym regularly and eats healthy, and does a lot of physical activity during the day- which means she has a great body even though she has a thyroid problem and is prone to being overweight, according to her doctors. This is actually not the kind of illness that would make it impossible for you to lose weight or whatever. You just need to take care of your body, take your meds and have regular check ups.
    I havent said that these conditions made it impossible,ive said they are known to contribute to weight gain.

    Fair play to your mum
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    (Original post by RachaelBee)
    That first link says " it's basically saying that being obese causes PCOS...
    Being obese is not the cause of PCOS.

    Being obese however can worsen the symptoms quite severly

    The larger you get with pcos the harder it becomes to lose weight.
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    (Original post by minthumbugs)
    I haven't read the whole thread but I will add my thoughts. I've always been a little on the large side, not to the extent of being classed as obese but not at the healthy end of the normal BMI category either. I have made conscious efforts to lose weight even though as far as I can tell I generally eat healthily. My dad has CHD, used to be a smoker and is diabetic so we rarely have takeaways but recently we have been eating more sugary things and I've started baking which isn't good at a recent family wedding, I think 75% of the females in my family were noticeably overweight/obese. My immediate family is pretty much the same as me and I've sort of been conditioned into thinking I will never be slim or a healthy weight. When I try and avoid fatty foods I get told I'm making a big deal or "you're not dieting are you??" And guilted into eating things. I have no means of getting to a gym or paying for membership and I live in quite a rough area so when I've not had nice experiences jogging. I know it's a pathetic excuse but I do want to go to Loughborough because of the sporty reputation. I've never been good at sports but I do want to try and be healthy as well as control my meals and portion sizes. What I mean to say is, I may be considered unhealthy but I feel pretty stuck at the moment and I'm trying to change it. I did notice an improvement when I started using myfitness pal because I cut out the mindless snacking.

    What I don't like is the media telling us we're all obese, then saying big is beautiful because neither the overweight or naturally slim should be vilified. I have a friend with an under active thyroid who was bullied and a friend who is naturally skinny who was bullied. The obese should stop whining and make an effort, not to attain the supermodel anaemic look, but to be healthy. Some people are genuinely healthy but have a larger frame and are really tall so are a size 16 and some girls are naturally slender. There's nothing wrong with that. But yes, the relationship the nation has with its weight needs to change.

    Sorry for the life story/rant
    What a healthy attitude! I think the part in bold really gets to the heart of the issue. I recently read an exercise psychology book which talked about the spectrum of health attitudes: there is healthy at one end and unhealthy at the other and right in the middle was 'normal'.

    The point being that it is seen as abnormal to take a healthy attitude and try to improve yourself if you aren't happy. People are always trying to sabotage others' attempts to get themselves in shape probably because it reflects on their own lifestyles and what they aren't doing to improve themselves.

    I think it's awful that some people scorn others for making an effort and justify it as kindness by telling an unhealthy (or unhappy) person that they're better the way they are. How many documentaries have you seen about super morbidly obese people who cannot leave their homes? There is always some partner or family member who buys and prepares their food. And I bet that person told them for years that they were beautiful as they were too.
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    (Original post by Anime Lover)
    I completely agree I'm sick of some people on here trying to defend being grossly overweight. As you said, some people are built bigger and some are built more slightly (I have the frame of a 10 year old) but until people are of a healthy size, no one should try to falsely compliment them on their "curves" which are just rolls of fat. If people can't help their weight then it's understandable, but our society portrays weight in such a bad light. A rant in response to your rant, over!
    I thought people might take it the wrong way, which goes back to the original problem! I'm not happy with my shape and my friends do discuss weight but I don't usually say anything at the risk of whining about how it's not my fault (it is) or they usually say I don't need to lose weight (which I do). What is more concerning is my dad has had diabetes for 20 or so years so even before I was born. I see the 10+ pills he has to take after meals and I'm painfully aware that having diabetes on both sides of the family, being overweight increases my chances of getting it. That will be goal from now and I think we need more education on it! Not to mention the drain on the NHS. Happiness is health I suppose..
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    (Original post by apparentlyblue)
    What a healthy attitude! I think the part in bold really gets to the heart of the issue. I recently read an exercise psychology book which talked about the spectrum of health attitudes: there is healthy at one end and unhealthy at the other and right in the middle was 'normal'.

    The point being that it is seen as abnormal to take a healthy attitude and try to improve yourself if you aren't happy. People are always trying to sabotage others' attempts to get themselves in shape probably because it reflects on their own lifestyles and what they aren't doing to improve themselves.

    I think it's awful that some people scorn others for making an effort and justify it as kindness by telling an unhealthy (or unhappy) person that they're better the way they are. How many documentaries have you seen about super morbidly obese people who cannot leave their homes? There is always some partner or family member who buys and prepares their food. And I bet that person told them for years that they were beautiful as they were too.
    Thank you especially because food is a huge part of our culture, and its really rude not to take second helpings/large portions. I'm trying to get into the habit of taking less and eating slower so it looks like I'm eating more. Which is insanity in itself because I shouldn't have to! I can't think of any man on my dads side of the family who doesn't have diabetes/heart problems/isn't a smoker and these people don't seem to care or want to change! And make disparaging remarks about people who are trying to change as going through fad diets. I absolutely agree, there's no need to be unkind but "real women have curves" isn't helping anybody..
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    (Original post by Anime Lover)
    I think it's quite sad that society felt the need to change clothes sizes as a result of people being so self-conscious about their size.
    Sad and ridiculous.

    One day we were all one size, the next day a different size, just because they changed the labels and confused everyone.



    (Original post by Anime Lover)
    I completely agree I'm sick of some people on here trying to defend being grossly overweight. As you said, some people are built bigger and some are built more slightly
    Did you not read the other topic and news article yesterday?

    Some people are just to be forever lazy, its in the genes (so scientists would have us believe).
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    (Original post by minthumbugs)
    Thank you especially because food is a huge part of our culture, and its really rude not to take second helpings/large portions. I'm trying to get into the habit of taking less and eating slower so it looks like I'm eating more. Which is insanity in itself because I shouldn't have to! I can't think of any man on my dads side of the family who doesn't have diabetes/heart problems/isn't a smoker and these people don't seem to care or want to change! And make disparaging remarks about people who are trying to change as going through fad diets. I absolutely agree, there's no need to be unkind but "real women have curves" isn't helping anybody..
    Yeah, around the start of y13 I went through a really bad body image patch and had a huge go at my mum for the face that all of our family things seemed to revolve around food and I hated it. Said something about comfort eating and she was like 'I didn't know you comfort ate!'
    I was just like.... how do you think I ended up with this belly then? =/
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    (Original post by ironandwine)
    I find our sizing really weird - my flatmate who I always presumed to be an 8/10 I've just found out is a 14... I would never have guessed at all. I'm still convinced she's wearing the wrong size... :dontknow:
    It's like that one girl who tries to convince you she's a 34 C bra size, when her chest is like an ironing board.

    But I really do think that large women (Size 14 - 16) can look quite beautiful... as long as they excercise. The extra curves can look quite flattering.

    Oh wait, only me? Oh okay.
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    (Original post by RibenaRockstar)
    Yeah, around the start of y13 I went through a really bad body image patch and had a huge go at my mum for the face that all of our family things seemed to revolve around food and I hated it. Said something about comfort eating and she was like 'I didn't know you comfort ate!'
    I was just like.... how do you think I ended up with this belly then? =/
    I don't know why it has to? Either that or sitting around doing nothing. We used to have pay for a court for an hour and have an intense family badminton match every weekend. Which in my opinion was much more fun and relaxing. Plus I'd thrash my siblings I'm guilty of doing the same, I feel bad about my body so in turn eat more. Keep a bottle of water beside you, I'm awful for eating out of boredom.
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    Also, vanity size is ridiculous. I bought bras recently without trying them on and I'm usually a 34 but 2 are tight and 2 are loose. Same cup, underwired etc and from the same shop.
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    (Original post by ufo2012)
    Sad and ridiculous.

    One day we were all one size, the next day a different size, just because they changed the labels and confused everyone.





    Did you not read the other topic and news article yesterday?

    Some people are just to be forever lazy, its in the genes (so scientists would have us believe).
    I haven't read that. I wouldn't say that obesity is wholly caused by laziness, and larger frames make people appear bigger even if they're not technically overweight. I suppose laziness is often genetic - my dad's quite laid back and I barely move, but I'm far from obese, and I know other people that do loads of exercise and are triple my size XD As for the sizing, that just irritates me >.<
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    (Original post by minthumbugs)
    Wow
    Ignore that stupid comment.
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    Why can't people just be the way they want to be, and like the types of people they like without being persecuted for it.
    If someone want's to lose weight they will find a way, if someone find's a curvy/chubby/fat woman attractive, then good for the both of them. Who are you to decide what people should be like and who people should like, people who think in that way are just idiotic.
 
 
 
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