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Well no, in the long run we would see high levels of growth and then we can pay off the debt. But in the short run, it is important to actually create this growth by stimulating demand through increased public spending and job creation. Basic Keynesian Economic theory...
Where, exactly, would that growth come from?
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Where, exactly, would that growth come from?
If there is greater aggregate demand created by government investments, unemployment reduction etc., then people will spend more on goods and services. Hence, producers will have greater income which in turn means there will be spending by them and so on.
There is a multiplier effect - which states that a given increase in government spending/investment will produce a greater increase in national income. The size of this multiplier depends on the marginal propensity to consume of the general public.
In times of recession, we should aim to have a budget deficit - more money entering the system than leaving acting as a fiscal stimulus to increase AD.

(Well, this as much as I remember from Higher economics)
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(Original post by Asklepios)
If there is greater aggregate demand created by government investments, unemployment reduction etc., then people will spend more on goods and services. Hence, producers will have greater income which in turn means there will be spending by them and so on.
There is a multiplier effect - which states that a given increase in government spending/investment will produce a greater increase in national income. The size of this multiplier depends on the marginal propensity to consume of the general public.
In times of recession, we should aim to have a budget deficit - more money entering the system than leaving acting as a fiscal stimulus to increase AD.

(Well, this as much as I remember from Higher economics)
I think you are significantly overestimating how much growth will come out of Scottish independence. Unemployment reduction is not going to have an immediate effect (nor is it going to be immediately solved or even solved at all - that's a lot of jobs the government would have to create and fill) but taxes are still going to have to be hiked to keep up with the ever-increasing deficit.
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Please dont vote labour - we are just starting to come out of this mess thanks to the Conservatives (I voted UKIP Btw)
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I think you are significantly overestimating how much growth will come out of Scottish independence. Unemployment reduction is not going to have an immediate effect (nor is it going to be immediately solved or even solved at all - that's a lot of jobs the government would have to create and fill) but taxes are still going to have to be hiked to keep up with the ever-increasing deficit.
I'm not saying growth will be easy - it won't. But we should at least give ourselves a chance instead of merciless cuts in public spending courtesy of Cameron et al. And then, more important than the economic side, is the social side - the government should be trying to reduce unemployment, increase quality of life, provide free university education.
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I think I may just end up spoiling my ballot. Just to make a point. (Even if it is ignored)
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I'm not saying growth will be easy - it won't. But we should at least give ourselves a chance instead of merciless cuts in public spending courtesy of Cameron et al. And then, more important than the economic side, is the social side - the government should be trying to reduce unemployment, increase quality of life, provide free university education.
Either way you are going to have to cut it mercilessly or raise taxes - there's simply no way you slash 100% of national debt with minor economic growth, you would only slow it for a few more years. And how would you be able increase quality of life and provide free university education with such a heavy bill? It's all just wishful thinking. There's a reason the Tory's had to raise tuition fees here, as much as I dislike it, and that's because they simply couldn't afford for it to be as subsidised as it was.
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LABOUR. Conservatives ruined my home town. Labour all the way.
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haha 2 for lib dems!
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please vote labour, lets get back to easy living.
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UKIP indubitably. We need change.
I agree.
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Surprising how many young people are planning on voting Conservative.
TSR isn't generally representative of young people in all fairness.

I don't have a clue but it'll probably be Labour due to my hatred of the Tories and UKIP. I would vote Lib Dem but I don't think I could stand to do that.
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My words exactly:



MAKE THIS MAN PM!
That guy is hilarious. The only remaining member of the "old" left wing labour party.
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I dunno. Which ones best?
Depends on what your views are.
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Can't believe the Green Party isn't on there. It's more than just 'other'.
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UKIP, 22%...

I really do wonder about people on this site sometimes.
It's ok to support UKIP, nothing wrong with it.
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Can't believe the Green Party isn't on there. It's more than just 'other'.
They aren't polling very well. And probably won't have a seat after the next election.
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shows just how far the lib dems have fallen. 2 votes out of 100+ people. the only parties that are realistically gonna win are the conservatives and labour so if you vote for anyone else your just voting for another coalition. i dunno how you could vote labour given how badly they screwed up last time.
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"Labour: working class benefits scrounger, illegal immigrant, asylum seeker, or all three, plus the "champagne socialists" (rich progressives), who are seen as eating tofu and hummus, as well as being knee-jerk Anti-Tory and having an obsessive desire to be identified with the working-class. Will inevitably morph once in office to become ultra-authoritarian. Spend all the money they have and indeed, the money they don't have. If this spending results in increased efficiency (however small), it is obviously a massive success. If it doesn't work, throw more money at it and the problem will sort itself out. While in opposition, will decry Tory policies and promise to repeal them once in power, then tamely accept them as the status quo and do nothing once in power. Loathed for betrayal by many former voters." Couldn't have put it better myself!
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"Green : The Bog-Standard Green Stereotype. Bunch of bonkers hippy throwbacks, probably want to extend voting rights to fish, want the NHS to give more priority to crystal healing than heart transplants, are inherently suspicious of anything that could conceivably benefit humanity."
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