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    (Original post by SerLorasTyrell)
    Okay, just never crossed my mind that someone would actually indoctrinate themselves, also you don't own the thread.




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    wow you are thick

    if it is indoctrination, why would you think he willingly and knowingly wanted to indoctrinate himself?

    studying your own faith isn't the forceful, willing indoctrination of oneself, dont know what made you even come to that idea. i think you're just trying to sound smart.
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    OP, have you looked at the quranic scientific miracles?

    that was the prime factor as to how i lost faith in islam
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    What are you studying at uni?

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    (Original post by shahbaz)
    I to feel the same way and can relate to many things you have just said, I am a man of science and want to persue further study in the field of Physcis. There are many areas were Islam and science contradict each other especialy when you look at the world in its most basic form (fundamentals). The only way I have found of overcoming this is to seperate my mind with regards to religion and science I know its a cheat, but I cant bare the thought of upsetting my family...
    How do you separate religion and science? Like do you not try to link one to the other?

    I understand the upsetting family part. I mean my family believe very strongly in the religion to a level where I am not at. If I was to say that I am having doubt or don't believe their immediate thoughts would be of my safety as they would believe I would spend eternity in hell, and I can't imagine putting my family through that.
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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    OP, have you looked at the quranic scientific miracles?

    that was the prime factor as to how i lost faith in islam
    Yes one or two and it's difficult for me to fathom how they did it. But I guess believers would say that is where the element of faith comes into play but that sounds like a bit of a cop out.

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    What are you studying at uni?

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    I wanted to study medicine as I really human biology, anatomy, physiology, I can read about that stuff all day. Just missed the grades at A-Level, did a foundation year for medicine, got the grades to get an interview for medicine on the foundation year just missed out on a place at medical school I got told I ranked 21/40 students and only the first 20 got through. So went into clearing to study pharmacy, at the moment I am enjoying pharmacy but the desire to study medicine is still playing at the back of my mind and is something I may consider after studying pharmacy.
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      Like its stance on homosexuality. Why would God create a man and instil a desire/attraction for other men. Yet prohibit him to the extent of punishment by death from him carrying out these desires. Yet heterosexuals can marry to alleviate their desires. Is that fair?
      Well, can you provide conclusive scientific evidence that shows that people are actually born attracted to the same sex?

      And i've only ever seen two hadiths that state to put homosexuals to death if they are guilty of sodomy, but scholars like Ibn Hazm disputed the authenticity of them and said that they were both weak narrations that are not connected to the Prophet.
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      (Original post by FreedomCostsTax)
      Well, can you provide conclusive scientific evidence that shows that people are actually born attracted to the same sex?

      And i've only ever seen two hadiths that state to put homosexuals to death if they are guilty of sodomy, but scholars like Ibn Hazm disputed the authenticity of them and said that they were both weak narrations that are not connected to the Prophet.
      Not conclusive no, I know that a gay "gene" was discovered but it was uncovered that, that only plays a part in the sexual orientations of an individual. But if it is a choice why would someone choose it, especially knowing the views of society towards it (I'm not talking about now when it is largely accepted in society but about 50 years ago when it was looked down upon).

      I wasn't aware that they were punishable by death or the authenticity of the hadith. I only came across it after I read a post by Reform in another thread.
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      (Original post by TSA)
      When I said I asked Allah for assistance I did go in a 110%. I went to Tablighi Jamat for 30 days, in between worship I would study. I walked into my exams with 100% faith and conviction in Allah that I would be fine. I was as calm and lax as a cucumber. I failed the exams. This or things close to this has been happening for 5 years now. How can I put my reliance on a God who has failed me repeatedly.
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      Can you really blame this on Allah?

      Exams test knowledge, and memorisation, not faith.

      You could be Pope Francis and you'd still flop an FP3 paper if you don't know your ****.
      This conversation reminded me of this video:

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      If you ever were to leave your faith. Will you like to have pork/bacon and so on?
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      (Original post by ¯\(°_o)/¯)
      Can you really blame this on Allah?

      Exams test knowledge, and memorisation, not faith.

      You could be Pope Francis and you'd still flop an FP3 paper if you don't know your ****.
      :lol:
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      (Original post by TSA)
      When I said I asked Allah for assistance I did go in a 110%. I went to Tablighi Jamat for 30 days, in between worship I would study. I walked into my exams with 100% faith and conviction in Allah that I would be fine. I was as calm and lax as a cucumber. I failed the exams. This or things close to this has been happening for 5 years now. How can I put my reliance on a God who has failed me repeatedly.
      Did you have an offer to study Medicine?
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      (Original post by Rosie786)
      If you ever were to leave your faith. Will you like to have pork/bacon and so on?
      Probably no. I have no desire to try pork/bacon or stuff like that. I'm not even curious as to what it would taste like. Which seems strange thinking about it, I feel I should be curious but I'm not.
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      (Original post by Student296)
      Did you have an offer to study Medicine?
      Yes at Liverpool, but missed the A-Level grades.

      Then had an interview for medicine at Leeds and a guaranteed place as I'd already achieved the grades in my foundation year if I passed the interview.

      What a massive flop I am.
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      (Original post by TSA)



      Yes, it's not that I outright failed but more just missed out on what I needed. Like at A-Level missed out on getting A*AA to study medicine and got ABB with each grade being one mark off the next after a remark. Then this year, first year of uni studying pharmacy achieved 90%+ in every module but failed one getting 49% when I required 50% to pass so now have to go in for reassessment. Just missing out is the story of my life.
      You know I was in the same situation I applied for medicine twice both occasions got an interview both occasions got rejected. I made so much dua and when the latest rejection letter arrived from soton it was a devastating blow, but I didn't get deterred and was happy with my lot and got into a pharmacy course and found out chemistry is actually fun.
      I'm a firm believer of ''whatever is meant for you will not miss you, and whatever is not meant for you won't come by'' And ''you may dislike something which in the end is better for you''
      Just work hard on your resit inshallah, do as much as you can and also rely on god.
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      (Original post by Kutta)
      This conversation reminded me of this video:

      OMG! Dude's like an Asian Joe Wilkinson :lol:
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      (Original post by Al-farhan)
      You know I was in the same situation I applied for medicine twice both occasions got an interview both occasions got rejected. I made so much dua and when the latest rejection letter arrived from soton it was a devastating blow, but I didn't get deterred and was happy with my lot and got into a pharmacy course and found out chemistry is actually fun.
      I'm a firm believer of ''whatever is meant for you will not miss you, and whatever is not meant for you won't come by'' And ''you may dislike something which in the end is better for you''
      Just work hard on your resit inshallah, do as much as you can and also rely on god.
      What annoys me is I've been in this situation literally for the past 5 years of my life. Every time summer comes around and I receive my results I have failed something or another. Well fail is the wrong word, not achieved what I'd hoped.

      GCSEs, AS Levels, A-Levels, Foundation year med, 1st year pharmacy. After a bit it starts to take its toll on you. And you start wondering what is the point. I've contemplated dropping out on a number of occasions, not because I'm not enjoying what I'm studying but because I'm tired of sitting exam after exam after exam, just missing out on the grades I want, resetting then more exams, it's just a depressing cycle.
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      (Original post by TSA)
      I would but at the moment I can't afford it. Got robbed a couple of weeks ago the sum of £7k. So literally broke now and using my overdraft to make myself money again. I'm about £700 up but I need to make some more for my accommodation next year as I signed a contract for a studio flat thinking I could comfortably afford it with the money I had and now will be in a bit of trouble if I can't.
      No worries Bro! I am sorry to hear that, sound's like you are going through a tough time.

      Look we all have ups and downs in relationships. A relationship with Allah is special because Allah does not require you, yet you try to seek his help and guidance in order to have success in this life and the hereafter. Right now, it seems you are going through a stage in life or a struggle in life, possibly like your personal jihad. In the end its up to you bro, do what you think is right. Your creator doesn't force you to pray salah, he doesn't force you to not drink or sin etc. It is your free will! And like I said he does not require you or myself, for one day we will be in a grave.

      Id advise you to go to the holy lands and see where this religion started, look at its history and see for yourself, when you have the money

      Id also advise having a day where you stay away from the internet, tv, phones no music no newspapers etc People are far too reliant on these things and they have made these necessities and I believe we have become an ignorant society because of these things taking control of their lives. I am not saying these are bad things, just saying that anything that is taken to extremes is not a good idea. Having a day like this will open your eyes a lot more than usual and make you a much stronger person (its just like fasting where you are abstaining from food etc)

      I think I am getting off topic here lol but I just wanted to give you some advice. You don't need to listen to it if you feel its not what you want haha!
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      (Original post by TSA)
      Probably no. I have no desire to try pork/bacon or stuff like that. I'm not even curious as to what it would taste like. Which seems strange thinking about it, I feel I should be curious but I'm not.
      I don't think it's that strange - an old colleague of mine who was not particularly religious said that she had no desire to try it because she, like most other muslims, had been brought up being told that it was disgusting and filthy, so the idea that it was disgusting was very much ingrained.

      Not to mention that bacon etc are very smelly when being cooked - any particularly foreign and rich food is rather off-putting and can turn your stomach if you're not used to it. I found the mixture of soy sauce and wasabi with sushi really, really strange when I first ate it and wasn't sure whether my stomach was going to remain calm enough for me to keep it down.
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      What ethnicity is your gf? What do you think your parents would say if you brought her home to them.
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      (Original post by TSA)
      When I said I asked Allah for assistance I did go in a 110%. I went to Tablighi Jamat for 30 days, in between worship I would study. I walked into my exams with 100% faith and conviction in Allah that I would be fine. I was as calm and lax as a cucumber. I failed the exams. This or things close to this has been happening for 5 years now. How can I put my reliance on a God who has failed me repeatedly.
      Ha this post is a joke, you have only yourself to blame. You can't blame Allah if you didn't put the effort in for your exams, success comes at a price i.e. hard work , clearly you didn't worked hard enough.
     
     
     
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