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    (Original post by CJKay)
    Hitler got quite a lot of opposition when he invaded Poland.

    Just saying.

    #logicalconclusion
    Its refreshing to see how people on here with nothing to say pick out irrelevant things...well why don't you "just say" something meaningful?
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    (Original post by Dan.dont)
    Its refreshing to see how people on here with nothing to say pick out irrelevant things...well why don't you "just say" something meaningful?
    You're a fine one to talk.

    I could say a lot of meaningful things, like "I love my mother", but that's not how you debate things, dearest.
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    Why do you feel the need to wear a niqab? As an Arab/Muslim I feel that it defeats the purpose... It's understandable to wear one in Saudi.. but what's the need of covering your face here? It's a barrier to communication and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable and it just makes you stand out which surely isn't even the purpose of it!!!
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    (Original post by CJKay)
    You're a fine one to talk.

    I could say a lot of meaningful things, like "I love my mother", but that's not how you debate things, dearest.
    Meaningful in terms of this? You say irrelevant things, "but thats not how you debate things."
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    (Original post by Dan.dont)
    The duplicate members are on a rise!
    How is that even relevant? Lol
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    How is that even relevant? Lol
    Its relevant to the point he made as it is from the same member, so I said it.
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    (Original post by Dan.dont)
    Its relevant to the point he made as it is from the same member, so I said it.
    Ahuh.
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    (Original post by I Procrastinate)
    Anyone can wear a balaclava and commit a crime?

    Anyone can wear a mask and commit a crime?

    Anyone can go and steal during Halloween by wearing a costume covering their face and body?
    But you can walk into a bank wearing one of them black veil things some Muslims wear.

    Do the same with a balaclava and see what happens.
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    Small children are scared by a lot of things. Should we ban everything that even remotely scares small children?
    I never said we should ban it for that reason alone.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    I never said we should ban it for that reason alone.
    You keep putting it in your lost and so clearly place some importance on it, when in fact it should carry no weighting. Given that your reasoning was so flawed, I seriously doubt other reasons put forward by you would be convincing
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    You keep putting it in your lost and so clearly place some importance on it, when in fact it should carry no weighting. Given that your reasoning was so flawed, I seriously doubt other reasons put forward by you would be convincing
    The most important reason is security. You would not be allowed in a shop with a balaclava, so you shouldn't with a niqab either.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    The most important reason is security. You would not be allowed in a shop with a balaclava, so you shouldn't with a niqab either.
    We must look at substantive equality and not formal equality.

    As I said, you have nothing convincing. Just another typical bigot going on about the same point
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    We must look at substantive equality and not formal equality.

    As I said, you have nothing convincing. Just another typical bigot going on about the same point
    Is the French government also full of bigots? :rolleyes: I have no problem with the hijab, and I have no problem with wearing the niqab in private, but in public allowing it is giving special priveliges for religion, which is wrong.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    Is the French government also full of bigots? :rolleyes: I have no problem with the hijab, and I have no problem with wearing the niqab in private, but in public allowing it is giving special priveliges for religion, which is wrong.
    Everyone knows the French are xenophobic. Surely you must know that? They eve display a remarkable amount of hate for the English
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    Everyone knows the French are xenophobic. Surely you must know that? They eve display a remarkable amount of hate for the English
    I agree with them on this though. Special priveliges for religion? What justification is there for that?
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    I agree with them on this though. Special priveliges for religion? What justification is there for that?
    It's not a special privilege. It's substantive equality.
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    It's not a special privilege. It's substantive equality.
    It is a special privilege lol.

    Balaclava: not allowed in lots of public spaces
    Niqab: allowed in almost all public spaces

    They're virtually the same item. The only difference is one if associated with religion.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    It is a special privilege lol.

    Balaclava: not allowed in lots of public spaces
    Niqab: allowed in almost all public spaces

    They're virtually the same item. The only difference is one if associated with religion.
    Substantive equality. I have a feeling you're struggling to understand this concept.

    Freedom of religion is a fundamental right protected by the law. The law recognises that religions have certain requirements and affords protection through substantive equality.

    There is no similar requirement for some wanting to wear a balaclava
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    (Original post by Ben_Dover)
    Substantive equality. I have a feeling you're struggling to understand this concept.

    Freedom of religion is a fundamental right protected by the law. The law recognises that religions have certain requirements and affords protection through substantive equality.

    There is no similar requirement for some wanting to wear a balaclava
    Yes, and I disagree with that. Just because it is currently that way doesn't mean it's correct.
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    Yes, and I disagree with that. Just because it is currently that way doesn't mean it's correct.
    Fair enough....I can't force you to change your mind.

    I'll just finish on the statement that those that wear a niqab do so because they feel their religion requires them to do so.

    Those that wear a balaclava do so in order to cause mischief.

    Making a comparison between the two is just petty. Hopefully you'll come to realise these differences in personal belief
 
 
 
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