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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    well europe and asia are two of the three earliest populated continents. i dont really what point that is , its hardly a remarkable fact.

    inventions came about for a variety of reasons, more to do with migrations of people, wealth of civilisations, even spoils of war and conquest/colony

    you could argue women werent as involved in technological advancemnt becuase they didnt travel as much as men , or go to war as readily for anything up to the last 200 years
    I agree with you, there are probably many explanations which have nothing to do with race.
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    yeh fam it dead is :--)
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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    just to expand on what you are saying - there is actually no such thing as the 'white race' - so i didnt even know what he/you meant - caucasian people, people that 'look white' (if so we could discount some of the ancient greeks who were quite tanned)

    I get it now. You are a racist. denying the existence of a people. Reducing the vast contributions of human civilisation to an iPod. Classy.

    White people is just a modern word to describe people of European descent. They can be tanned or porcelain white. But, they are still part of the same group.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    Africa is held back by bad ideas, dictators and a lack of scepticism and belief in the Western Enlightenment. You are conflating ideas with race.

    So western ideas just magically popped into existence in Europe and not Africa?? Where did these ideas actually come from you think?
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    The first caveman who counted his fish invented maths. But, es, you are correct. the numerals we use today came from India, and this is great. India gave Numerals to Mathematics. Great contribution.

    But, Mathematics is a universal evolving language. Lots of people have contributed to it, Most of its contributions come from Western civilisation.

    The Greeks for example laid the foundations for our modern understanding of mathematics.
    again , no. a cavemen just ate his fish, he didnt count them. we just dont use Indian numerals, we use the very base 10 system they did 2500 years ago, including the decimal system they used. both indian and ancient greece then moved on to fractions and calculations such as trigonometry and algebra, probably due to some co-existence of indian empires and greek/macedonian empires.

    western contributions in maths didnt arrive till possibly late 17th century, but again they did not alter the fundamental system that came from india 2500 years ago (via the middle east), they just proved its validity by using it as the basis for all complex calculations required for advancements in engineering, physics, chemistry architecture etc
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    I get it now. You are a racist. denying the existence of a people. Reducing the vast contributions of human civilisation to an iPod. Classy.

    White people is just a modern word to describe people of European descent. They can be tanned or porcelain white. But, they are still part of the same group.
    no white is a colour ( or lack of it depending how you look at it) there are in reality no white people ( barring abinos) - there are pink people originating form somewhere in northern europe / arctic circle, and there are brown people originating further south asia/north africa etc. the people that invented the ipod are some mixing of descendants of these peoples
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    true what viva emptiness said


    Men as a whole have more retards as well as geniuses. Women are just more likely to be average.
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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    no white is a colour ( or lack of it depending how you look at it) there are in reality no white people ( barring abinos) - there are pink people originating form somewhere in northern europe / arctic circle, and there are brown people originating further south asia/north africa etc. the people that invented the ipod are some mixing of descendants of these peoples

    No, i am southern European and very tanned, almost brown sometimes if i am out in the sun, but i am still Ethnic European.

    Chinese people for example range from very white to tanned. But you wouldn't say the Chinese people do not exist would you?

    Ah yes, the iPod, that invention which uses all of those other minor inventions like computing, the microchip, the discovery of electricity and on and on.....
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    So western ideas just magically popped into existence in Europe and not Africa?? Where did these ideas actually come from you think?
    They came into existence through a slow process of communication and trade between different empires and civilisations over time.
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    No, i am southern European and very tanned, almost brown sometimes if i am out in the sun, but i am still Ethnic European.

    Chinese people for example range from very white to tanned. But you wouldn't say the Chinese people do not exist would you?

    Ah yes, the iPod, that invention which uses all of those other minor inventions like computing, the microchip, the discovery of electricity and on and on.....
    in that case you arnt white, you are brown. europe is a continent, just like asia is - chinese asian is not the same as a afgani asian
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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    in that case you arnt white, you are brown. europe is a continent, just like asia is - chinese asian is not the same as a afgani asian

    No, I'm not white. I'm Ethnic European. But i am 'white' because thats how Ethnic Europeans are described in the society.
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    (Original post by imtelling)
    No, I'm not white. I'm Ethnic European. But i am 'white' because thats how Ethnic Europeans are described in the society.
    yes but that is a meaningless term. you can describe yourself as causcasian - but that might not be selective enough for you because caucasians range from indians up to russians.

    unless you look something like this you cant accurately call yourself 'white' and even he is more pink that white still
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    (Original post by poohat)
    There's no real mystery here, pretty much every psychological study shows that men have a higher variation in cognitive ability than women do, so there are more men at the extremes (both top and bottom). That means that men are far more likely to be geniuses, but also far more likely to be idiots

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91886906000420
    http://pps.sagepub.com/content/1/4/316.abstract
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...60289606001115

    Now throw in the fact that men have higher levels of testosterone and its known that exogenous increases in testosterone increase risk-taking behaviour which is generally necessary for success, and the fact that society is structured in a way that gives more incentive to shoot for the top, and its not really surprising they dominate all fields.

    http://www.pnas.org/content/106/36/15268.short
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91886910003417
    Damn fine post, thank you very much.

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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    They came into existence through a slow process of communication and trade between different empires and civilisations over time.
    But, every other civilisation was also trading with other civilisations. So why did the scientific revolution, for example, only happen in the West?
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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    yes but that is a meaningless term. you can describe yourself as causcasian - but that might not be selective enough for you because caucasians range from indians up to russians.

    unless you look something like this you cant accurately call yourself 'white' and even he is more pink that white still


    Give it up. You know that white, in our modern language is just an interchangeable term for European. That's why i call myself White.

    But, yes, i agree that people from the regions of Europe, Indian and Iran are all the same people. The Aryan people. We know this because our languages are all derived from the same single source some 6000 years ago.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

    This is an Albino Indian lady. Looks very European:

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    (Original post by imtelling)
    But, every other civilisation was also trading with other civilisations. So why did the scientific revolution, for example, only happen in the West?
    Every other civilisation was not in contact with the great hub of human history. Australia and the Americas were both isolated for thousands of years. Africa was also isolated, not including the North.
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    Female self made billionaires

    1,Wu Yajun, Chinese, Property development, 3.9 billion
    2. Rosalie Mera, Spanish, Clothing, 3.5 billion
    3. Elena Baturina, Russian, Construction, 2.9 billion
    4. Doris Fisher, American, Clothing, 2.4 billion
    5. Xiu Li Hawken, UK citizen, property development, 2.4 billion
    6. Oprah Winfrey, American, Media, 2.4 billion
    7. Giulana Benetton, Italian, Clothing, 2.1 billion
    8. Chu Lam Yiu, Chinese, Flavourings and fragrances, 2.1 billion
    9. Zhang Xin, Chinese, property development, 2 billion
    10. Yan Cheung, Chinese, Waste paper, 1.7 billion
    11. Meg Whitman, American, Internet commerce, 1.3 billion
    12. Chan Laiwa, Chinese, property development, 1.1 billion
    13. Lei Jufang, Chinese, Medicines, 1.1 billion
    14. J.K. Rowling, British, Books, 1 billion

    Also Denise coates is the founder of bet365 and has over a billion.. but females are stupid and need to get back in the kitchen :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by vickidc18)
    Female self made billionaires

    1,Wu Yajun, Chinese, Property development, 3.9 billion
    2. Rosalie Mera, Spanish, Clothing, 3.5 billion
    3. Elena Baturina, Russian, Construction, 2.9 billion
    4. Doris Fisher, American, Clothing, 2.4 billion
    5. Xiu Li Hawken, UK citizen, property development, 2.4 billion
    6. Oprah Winfrey, American, Media, 2.4 billion
    7. Giulana Benetton, Italian, Clothing, 2.1 billion
    8. Chu Lam Yiu, Chinese, Flavourings and fragrances, 2.1 billion
    9. Zhang Xin, Chinese, property development, 2 billion
    10. Yan Cheung, Chinese, Waste paper, 1.7 billion
    11. Meg Whitman, American, Internet commerce, 1.3 billion
    12. Chan Laiwa, Chinese, property development, 1.1 billion
    13. Lei Jufang, Chinese, Medicines, 1.1 billion
    14. J.K. Rowling, British, Books, 1 billion

    Also Denise coates is the founder of bet365 and has over a billion.. but females are stupid and need to get back in the kitchen :rolleyes:
    Being a billionaire has nothing to do with being a genius.


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    (Original post by physicsmaths)
    Being a billionaire has nothing to do with being a genius.


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    How do you define genius? It's subjective I would say being able to make billions of pounds out of relatively little start up is genius in it's self.
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    (Original post by vickidc18)
    How do you define genius? It's subjective I would say being able to make billions of pounds out of relatively little start up is genius in it's self.
    That requires more luck than anything else. As markets are chaotic, even the greatest of geniuses, could not calculate predictions from chaos.

    Genius is the ability to make intellectual leaps, in areas were everybody else hits a wall.
 
 
 
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