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    (Original post by LonelyDemon)
    Actually a big reason why we have a generation of insecure men is because of the harsh rejection by some women. All the rude hard man act is used to cover that.

    Most men will totally respect a woman who asks him for sure, I just think he should live in a equal society
    Sorry but that's a load of horse **** :erm:

    I would concede that anxiety over fulfilling presumed expectations is a major source of insecurity among young men, but that's a slightly different proposition. Most men bounce back from rejection, most women find it crushing, and few men like the prospect of being out-maled/romanced by a girl getting down on one knee

    I love it when a woman comes up me in a club and offers to by me a drink, shows she ain't nailed down by gender expectations
    Fair enough. I only like it when they're hot, personally, and that's not usually the case with girls who approach you, in my experience
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Sorry but that's a load of horse **** :erm:

    Most men bounce back from rejection, most women find it crushing
    Why should a man be better at facing rejection, and if they can bounce back from rejection, why should a woman not? The thing is, women don't have to put their neck out there, society doesn't expect them to, and so many don't. It's just a 'rule of society' that it is the man's obligation, and any woman that is brave enough to ask a guy out certainly isn't in the norm
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    (Original post by ParzivaI)
    Why should a man be better at facing rejection, and if they can bounce back from rejection, why should a woman not?
    Men are hardwired to 'chase' to a certain extent, are bigger risk takers, and less emotional creatures (for a variety of physiological/sociological-psychological reasons I won't bore you with); male attraction also rides a lot more on things they can do stuff about, female attraction is highly aesthetic-centred, ergo, more deeply personal/unchangeable = rejection can be inherently more disturbing for their ego
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    (Original post by miser)
    That how much you earn indicates how much you contribute to society.
    I agree!
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    (Original post by chazwomaq)
    Which society are you from?

    I've never heard this in the UK, although I know it's important in some cultures.
    I remember I was told numerous times in school that food should be eaten with the right hand. I went to a school near Colchester
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Sorry but that's a load of horse **** :erm:

    I would concede that anxiety over fulfilling presumed expectations is a major source of insecurity among young men, but that's a slightly different proposition. Most men bounce back from rejection, most women find it crushing, and few men like the prospect of being out-maled/romanced by a girl getting down on one knee

    Fair enough. I only like it when they're hot, personally, and that's not usually the case with girls who approach you, in my experience

    But women have support by other women, men don't they keep to themselves but inside they feel bad and bottle up inside hence why men get pissed off at women because they don't talk about it letting women work over them in the fear of been seen as a sexist pig.

    Out maled? she is still the woman of the relationship but it doesn't mean she has to wait for to happen when she can do it herself. All I'm saying what ever men can do women can too, if a woman did that to a male friend, I would just think he got himself a nice girl not thinking he should of done it himself.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Men are hardwired to 'chase' to a certain extent, are bigger risk takers, and less emotional creatures (for a variety of physiological/sociological-psychological reasons I won't bore you with); male attraction also rides a lot more on things they can do stuff about, female attraction is highly aesthetic-centred, ergo, more deeply personal/unchangeable = rejection can be inherently more disturbing for their ego
    Some men may try to show less emotion, it's just another 'rule of society', that they must be outwardly masculine. However men don't instigate relationships because of some primal instict, society expects them to, and not because of sociological feelings but due to the stereotype of female weakness. Whilst I may see many more women crying in public than men, I feel this is beacause they can do so without judgement rather than some inherent physiological feature
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    (Original post by Ebony19)

    Men don't cry (I love it when men can cry it's so nice to comfort them totally is not emasculating, quite the opposite)

    Etc
    I need comforting :cry:
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    (Original post by LonelyDemon)
    But women have support by other women, men don't they keep to themselves but inside they feel bad and bottle up inside hence why men get pissed off at women because they don't talk about it letting women work over them in the fear of been seen as a sexist pig
    From what I could make out, I think I broadly agree with this passage

    Out maled? she is still the woman of the relationship but it doesn't mean she has to wait for to happen when she can do it herself
    Patience, deference and general relative submissiveness/femininity are generally conceived of as being strong markers for wifey material. Fact
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    If you do not drink alcohol, you are something along the lines of

    1) Weird
    2) Socially inept
    3) A muslim

    Actually, another one is if you're muslim then you are potentially a terrorist! :eek:

    ...

    Yeah, society and the common pawns that follow it like a donkey chasing a carrot can burn.
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    "If you slap your co-workers on the bum and say 'hey sweet cheeks' you have to attend a sexual harassment seminar and receive a written warning" Stupid ****ing rule set by society.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I need comforting :cry:
    Aw come here, you're getting cuddled okay?


    (No facilitative smilies apologies, I'm on my phone )
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    (Original post by MSI_10)
    If you do not drink alcohol, you are something along the lines of

    1) Weird
    2) Socially inept
    3) A muslim

    Actually, another one is if you're muslim then you are potentially a terrorist! :eek:

    ...

    Yeah, society and the common pawns that follow it like a donkey chasing a carrot can burn.
    totally agree with both these statements, I dont drink and get the alcohol one all the time, people think I have serious problems!! when actually I just dont like spending my teenage years getting wasted, throwing up on street corners, falling over, sleeping around and making a total prat out of myself (not every drunk person is like this), its not what I want to do.
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    (Original post by Natalierm2707)
    totally agree with both these statements, I dont drink and get the alcohol one all the time, people think I have serious problems!! when actually I just dont like spending my teenage years getting wasted, throwing up on street corners, falling over, sleeping around and making a total prat out of myself (not every drunk person is like this), its not what I want to do.
    Yeah I hear ya. I just got home today and this guy who was so drunk on the bus was causing such a nuisance for everyone. I even considered contacting the cops since he was close to starting fights..
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    Could you go deeper?
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    (Original post by MSI_10)
    Yeah I hear ya. I just got home today and this guy who was so drunk on the bus was causing such a nuisance for everyone. I even considered contacting the cops since he was close to starting fights..
    Its totally nuts!! I live in Manchester, so whenever I'm coming home late from college I have to pass the student bars and the university street, and all we get is drunks, druggies etc. in the central square in manchester a group of drugged up drunk people hang about shooting needles NEXT TO a childrens park sometimes, but the police are great at taking them away.

    honestly though I cant stand being drunk, I love to actually remember my experiences as well, this doesnt stop me going to parties though, I just dont drink and can still have a great time.
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    "Social" etiquette.
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    (Original post by Ebony19)
    You must have facebook otherwise you're probably a weirdo not worthy of friendship

    Children should always listen to adults because they always know best (some children are more morally tuned in than a lot of adults who've been corrupted by life).

    You must never go to the cinema alone

    You must always have someone ringing/messaging you otherwise you're a social reject

    Men don't cry (I love it when men can cry it's so nice to comfort them totally is not emasculating, quite the opposite)

    Etc
    The cinema alone one annoys me. I work weird shift times and when I feel stressed, I head to the cinema alone, get a drink and a popcorn, and for 2/3 hours I'm just relaxed. Nothing to worry about except enjoying the film. It's really therapeutic to go to the cinema alone I find!


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    Being told by everyone that at 15 I was too young to be in love!!!

    totally proved them wrong, 3 years and still strong!!!
 
 
 
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