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    (Original post by nulli tertius)

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    Another example is the bureaucracy created after the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry to monitor racial issues in the Met. The evidence before the inquiry was to the effect either that the Met had no problems or that it did have problems that should be addressed by a panoply of red tape. No one told truth to power by saying the Met had a problem, many of the proposed methods of dealing with that problem would reduce the effectiveness of the Met as a crime fighting force, that as members of ethnic minorities were disproportionately the victims of crime, the effect of addressing the problem in the ways proposed would bear hardest on them. It has taken until the financial cuts under the present government to scale back that bureaucracy.
    I wonder if these excessive responses to what are often media-driven instant or hysterical reactions to long-term problems are driven by political demands as much as by the judges or the lack of information reaching the panels? Surely the politicians who nod these things through a dozing parliament at 7pm of an evening are primarily anxious to be seen to be doing something and what better than implementing the findings of an expensive enquiry? I doubt there is much real concern about the actual results, since in many/most cases, the issues are deeply rooted, intractable and about profound inequalities in society, low standards of professionalism in many fields, underfunded public services and excessive media focus on spectacular cases.

    The police one is a good one to raise though. What is truly needed, especially here in London, is very many more ethnic minority officers at all levels. Unfortunately, there still seems to be a climate of persecution and intimidation aimed at those who make it above PC rank. The placing of burdens of badly thought-through 'anti-racist' agitprop into work contexts doesn't generally help with that, sadly. The application is ahead of the idea. What we need probably is some tough management action, a determination to install quotas against all opposition and the agreement of unions. These things worked (up to a point) in New York. In London we seem to remain stuck in a sort of floating world of non-reality between government wishes and weird, piecemeal implementations of half-baked pseudo-policy initiatives without proper buy-in, funding or true campaigning to win rank and file support for them.
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    ermmm remind me ?
    Prince Ch eeeraaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhh

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    Prince Ch eeeraaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhh

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    if you are so certain that the heir to the throne is engaged in criminal activities why don't you go to the police ?
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    (Original post by the bear)
    if you are so certain that the heir to the throne is engaged in criminal activities why don't you go to the police ?
    I am afraid of being arrested on trumped up charges and framed for some murder that I never even heard of, or being 'rendered' to Diego Garcia.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I am afraid of being arrested on trumped up charges and framed for some murder that I never even heard of, or being 'rendered' to Diego Garcia.
    we will miss you bae
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    Child abuse victims received death threats after MPs revealed their identities by publishing leaked evidence from paedophile inquiry
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-inquiry.html

    :no:
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    A top British diplomat engaged in "sexual perversion" in the 1960s and was vulnerable to blackmail by foreign powers, previously secret papers show.

    However, he was never charged, to the dismay of Conservative MP Geoffrey Dickens, who raised the case in Parliament in 1981.

    The file contains "lines to take" for government officials when asked questions by the media about the 1978 arrest.

    One of these was that there had been "no cover-up".

    The file covering the end of 1980 and the start of 1981 is entitled "SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects".

    It was held by the Cabinet Office, but marked "closed" until it was released to The National Archives at Kew, south-west London, on Friday.

    The file does not appear to have been uncovered by a review of government historical child abuse records conducted last year by Peter Wanless, the head of the NSPCC.

    His report claimed to have made inquiries widely across the government estate and other public services, including the Cabinet Office, where this file was being held.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31062904
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    Here's what is going on .

    Theresa May has a load of paedophile documents that will destroy the Conservative party,
    she will release them before the election,
    because this will be her chance to become leader of the party and get rid of Cameron.
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    http://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/...or-child-abuse

    So who could lead the inquiry?

    Baroness Hale, deputy head of the Supreme Court, has been backed by some survivors’ groups. She was a family law academic before rising to become Britain’s most senior female judge.

    Lady Justice Hallett, a respected Court of Appeal judge who was coroner at the 7/7 inquests, also has the backing of some survivors’ representatives.

    Alexis Jay, the author of the Rotherham sex abuse report, is currently adviser to the child abuse inquiry. A professor specialising in social work, she has spent more than 30 years working in local councils in deprived areas of Scotland.

    Dinah Rose QC, a highly-rated human rights barrister who advised the BBC over the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal.

    Michael Mansfield QC, a high-profile barrister who has represented the Bloody Sunday families and Stephen Lawrence’s family, as well as Mohamed Al Fayed at inquests into the deaths of Princess Diana and Al Fayed’s son Dodi.

    Dame Janet Smith, a retired Court of Appeal judge who prepared the report into serial killer Harold Shipman and led an inquiry into Jimmy Savile sex abuse.

    They may all turn out to be Leon Brittan's neighbours, you never know
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    Russian and US spies compiled their own secret dossiers on paedophile MPs and other VIP abusers , it has been claimed.

    Police are investigating missing files put together by UK campaigners which allege a powerful network at the heart of Westminister in the 1970s and 80s.

    The Sunday People can reveal that agents from the Russian KGB and the American CIA were also said to have compiled their own intelligence in search of “dirt” on key individuals at the height of the Cold War.

    One source close to the KGB said: “These were troubled times and my task was to identify people who could perhaps help us with information.

    “We knew of some MPs who loved rent boys, and others who were active paedophiles.

    “We were also aware of some unusual activities at Westminster and the work of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE).
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...arebar_twitter
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    I am sorry, this is nonsense.

    Lawson doesn't say he has evidence. Indeed he doubts whether any evidence exists. His thesis is that this is all a plot to traduce Margaret Thatcher by the left.

    However, as Lawson conveniently fails to say, these allegations against Brittan were not made up in the last month. Whether true or not, they are 30 years old.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ory-abuse.html

    I do not doubt that some left-wingers, you perhaps, are glorying in this. Nevertheless, the allegations have been around for a very long time.

    I take Paul Foot's views with a pinch of salt. As a journalist he had some spectacular coups but equally, as in the case of Hanratty, could get it totally wrong.

    Can I throw this thought into the matter? Colin Wallace was the former intelligence officer framed for manslaughter. He was trying to expose the Kincora Boys' Home scandal. He also claimed that MI5 was trying to discredit Cyril Smith. If Smith was a paedophile, and if MI5 were targeting him, surely that was an open goal?
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    "the cover up continues"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-problems.html

    After politics, Theresa May could get a career in drag racing.
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    "the cover up continues"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-problems.html

    After politics, Theresa May could get a career in drag racing.
    What's wrong with Justice Goddard?

    Senior legal figure... barrister & high court judge, presumably not going to be easy to push around.

    Experience of child abuse cases.

    Isn't part of any public school or oxbridge cliques, real or imagined.

    Stands a reasonable chance of not dying of old age before the report is finished (though they've tried to counteract that by broadening the remit to look at abuse claims dating back 60 odd years.)

    I don't think there's much chance of finding a better candidate.
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    "So, in a country of over 60 million people, no one suitable could be found to chair this inquiry."
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    "So, in a country of over 60 million people, no one suitable could be found to chair this inquiry."
    It is very difficult.

    One could see that certain people with specific agendas were lining up to find fault with anybody who was put forward. The suggestion was that it could be no-one who was part of the establishment but "establishment" was being drawn so widely that it would include anyone who had ever occupied a role that meant they would have the knowledge and experience to do the job.

    On that basis all that was left was to hire a member of someone else's establishment.
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    Should have cremated him. Preferably when he was still alive
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    Upon my word, why is n00 banned?????????????????????????? ???????
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    The people who "instructed from above" were right. He was on his last legs.

    Nothing against him would get to trial. Was he really going to say anything that implicated anyone else?

    If he was, what was the chance that evidence would survive "Now tell me Inspector Plod, was Lord Brittan being prescribed morphine at the time when he suggested that Margaret Thatcher was engaging in a lesbian threesome with Ulrike Meinhof and an underage girl in General Galtieri's villa?"
 
 
 
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