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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    All you've demonstrated is that Israel suffers from a persecution complex and Zionists have to resort to ridiculous tangential football analogies to valiantly justify the wide scale destruction, deaths and suffering of the Palestinian people.
    Oh, sorry, there is part 2.
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    The second half started. In the national team of Palestine has been a change. As a humanitarian aid to the Palestinians FIFA enhanced their team by a French goalkeeper, two English defenders and Brazilian striker. The crowd happily welcomes this humanitarian action.The game began. Palestinians attack, breaking all the rules. And again the goalkeeper saves the Israeli national team. Attention! A quick counterattack of Israelis, dangerous situation, goal!Palestinian captain coming to the referee and says something to him. The referee nods and cancel the goal. He beckons the Israeli striker, shows him the red card and removes him from the field. I wonder what's the matter this time. The speaker announces that the Israeli striker lives in the settlement in the West Bank of the Jordan River, illegally occupied by Israel. Well, dear friends, I think you will agree with a fair decision of the referee. Of course, sport is out of politics. but even on the world championship we cannot forget about the suffering of the poor Palestinian people. People on the stands actively express support of the referee's decision, shouting anti-Israeli slogans.The game continues. The score remains "zero-zero". Attention, Brazilian striker got the ball and moves to the gate of the Israeli team. An Israeli defender makes a tackle. Typical Jewish method - to attack from the back! Brazilian falls. The referee stops the game and indicates a free-kick. The Israelis build the wall.The Palestinian captain coming to referee and says something to him. The referee nods and moves to Israeli players. On demand of the referee the wall is disbanded. The point is that in the first half of the game this part of the field was Palestinian and hence Israelis are not allowed to build anything on it. After all, the UN has banned any Israeli constructions in the Palestinian territories. Well, it is a fair decision.The Israeli goalkeeper finds himself face to face with Brazilian football player. Strike! Miss! Palestinians surrounded the Brazilian and explain him how wrong he is. Paramedics carry away the Brazilian player.. The referee collects and carries around discarded pieces of iron reinforcement and baseball bats. The people on the stands whistle and shout "Down with Zionist collaborator". Yes, the Israeli soccer players provoked an unpleasant conflict. After the match FIFA will undoubtedly require Israel's explanation for this tragic incident.The last minutes of the match. The crowd is demanding a penalty kick in the gates of Israel national team. The referee trying his best but can not find a suitable moment. The whistle blows. Game over.With a score of "zero-zero" the Palestinian national team won!
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    (Original post by admonit)
    Oh, sorry, there is part 2.
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    The second half started. In the national team of Palestine has been a change. As a humanitarian aid to the Palestinians FIFA enhanced their team by a French goalkeeper, two English defenders and Brazilian striker. The crowd happily welcomes this humanitarian action.The game began. Palestinians attack, breaking all the rules. And again the goalkeeper saves the Israeli national team. Attention! A quick counterattack of Israelis, dangerous situation, goal!Palestinian captain coming to the referee and says something to him. The referee nods and cancel the goal. He beckons the Israeli striker, shows him the red card and removes him from the field. I wonder what's the matter this time. The speaker announces that the Israeli striker lives in the settlement in the West Bank of the Jordan River, illegally occupied by Israel. Well, dear friends, I think you will agree with a fair decision of the referee. Of course, sport is out of politics. but even on the world championship we cannot forget about the suffering of the poor Palestinian people. People on the stands actively express support of the referee's decision, shouting anti-Israeli slogans.The game continues. The score remains "zero-zero". Attention, Brazilian striker got the ball and moves to the gate of the Israeli team. An Israeli defender makes a tackle. Typical Jewish method - to attack from the back! Brazilian falls. The referee stops the game and indicates a free-kick. The Israelis build the wall.The Palestinian captain coming to referee and says something to him. The referee nods and moves to Israeli players. On demand of the referee the wall is disbanded. The point is that in the first half of the game this part of the field was Palestinian and hence Israelis are not allowed to build anything on it. After all, the UN has banned any Israeli constructions in the Palestinian territories. Well, it is a fair decision.The Israeli goalkeeper finds himself face to face with Brazilian football player. Strike! Miss! Palestinians surrounded the Brazilian and explain him how wrong he is. Paramedics carry away the Brazilian player.. The referee collects and carries around discarded pieces of iron reinforcement and baseball bats. The people on the stands whistle and shout "Down with Zionist collaborator". Yes, the Israeli soccer players provoked an unpleasant conflict. After the match FIFA will undoubtedly require Israel's explanation for this tragic incident.The last minutes of the match. The crowd is demanding a penalty kick in the gates of Israel national team. The referee trying his best but can not find a suitable moment. The whistle blows. Game over.With a score of "zero-zero" the Palestinian national team won!
    The penmanship of this secondary piece, compared to the first part, seems so much more...mundane, uninteresting and quite frankly, atrocious.

    If the author of the first piece got shot for being loose with the facts, this one definitely deserves to get shot due to the unintelligible state of writing.
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    (Original post by teenhorrorstory)
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    That's how we became refugees to Syria and we lost our home in Safad to a Jewish family that we sheltered when they were refugees from Poland on the ship that was sailing from country to country and no one would taken them...they were our guests for 2 years till they made us refugees and they kicked us out of our own home.
    It's unbelievable that someone may consider seriously this BS.
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    (Original post by admonit)
    It's unbelievable that someone may consider seriously this BS.
    Zionists gonna zion
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    (Original post by mkap)
    you again?! i dont follow everything of saudi so chill the hell out. i simply follow the Islamic concept that there is no bidah done here. please stop quoting me your really doing my head in!
    you do follow bidah with the way that nose of yours is growing
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Because I don't believe claims without evidence.

    If you make a claim, its on you to provide the evidence, not me to disprove it

    Its all too easy to make up emotional stories to manipulate people, and the anti-Israelis are very good at this, bypassing facts in favour of manipulating emotions.
    I didn't say it was true, I said it was plausible. There is no inherent reason in historical inquiry to assume that a witness is lying, you weigh their claims up against things you know and other contextual reliability issues.
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    (Original post by viddy9)
    The 2014 Gaza War wasn't self-defence, because Hamas had not fired a single rocket into Israel since 2012. Unlike Israel, Hamas actually abided by the 2012 ceasefire agreement. Israel, meanwhile, broke it on numerous occasions, and started the 2014 conflict when they presided over the mass arrest of hundreds of Hamas officials in the West Bank and the assassination of two Hamas officials in the Gaza Strip. Hamas then retaliated.

    And, yes, Israel committed war crimes, including indiscriminately bombing civilian areas and deliberately bombing civilian infrastructure. Individual Israeli soldiers may have also individually targeted civilians. Hamas committed war crimes too, and both should be investigated by the International Criminal Court.
    Are you still peddling this blinkered and false narrative?
    Other Palestinian groups launched dozens of rocket attacks on Israel during the ceasefire. Hamas as the government of Gaza is ultimately responsible for preventing them from happening.
    The Israeli crackdown on Hamas occurred because Hamas kidnapped and murdered three Israeli teenagers. Israeli conduct during the war is a reasonable debate, but to blame them for starting it is ludicrous.
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    Are you still peddling this blinkered and false narrative?
    Other Palestinian groups launched dozens of rocket attacks on Israel during the ceasefire. Hamas as the government of Gaza is ultimately responsible for preventing them from happening.
    The Israeli crackdown on Hamas occurred because Hamas kidnapped and murdered three Israeli teenagers. Israeli conduct during the war is a reasonable debate, but to blame them for starting it is ludicrous.
    Does Israel recognize and accept Hamas as the legitimate government of Gaza?
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    Does Israel recognize and accept Hamas as the legitimate government of Gaza?
    No they recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation.


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    (Original post by admonit)
    It's unbelievable that someone may consider seriously this BS.
    You call it BS ? You're from Israel of course you're not going to complain or have sympathy for them. You carry the Zionist ideology, you live in the land of the Palestinian people, you're government claims Palestine is trying to "wipe you of the map" but yet you're the ones year after snatching more.

    Don't get me wrong I love jewish people. Its not Jews that are the real terrorists its the Zionists.


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    Jews will always find a way to be the victims.

    Take the Jews who claim they have to leave Europe because of Antisemitism. But what about European people? they have to live in this mess. How convenient Jews have Israel.


    Even in WW2, a war that claimed the lives of so many people the Jews managed to dupe the goyim into believing millions when THOUSANDS of Jews died.

    **** the Holocaust I can think of many people who suffered a lot more than those Jews.
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    (Original post by NotKosher)
    Jews will always find a way to be the victims.

    Take the Jews who claim they have to leave Europe because of Antisemitism. But what about European people? they have to live in this mess. How convenient Jews have Israel.


    Even in WW2, a war that claimed the lives of so many people the Jews managed to dupe the goyim into believing millions when THOUSANDS of Jews died.

    **** the Holocaust I can think of many people who suffered a lot more than those Jews.
    Kindly **** off or at least start a separate thread if you want to spew racist garbage

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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    Hamas as the government of Gaza is ultimately responsible for preventing them from happening.
    Which it actively tried to do from the end of the previous Gaza battle in November 2012 through to early 2014. Meanwhile Israel maintained the blockade as was, in violation of the ceasefire.
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    (Original post by viddy9)
    Israel does not recognise Hamas as being the government of Gaza, however, so it cannot attack Hamas for the actions of others. Indeed, from 2012 onwards, Israel made individual attacks on the other Palestinian militant groups without attacking Hamas. Yet, the cheerleaders for Israel's actions claimed that Israel was doing this "in response to" Hamas's rocket attacks.

    Mass arresting and assassinating hundreds of political officials is an entirely disproportionate response, and Israel's subsequent attacks on Gaza were simply the latest manifestation of their "mowing the grass" policy in Gaza, whereby they attack Gaza every few years. Is this a just war? No, because there is no possibility of success. If security were Israel's real objective, then they would take steps towards ending the blockade of Gaza, as they in fact agreed to do in 2012, and ending the occupation of Palestine as a whole.

    At the very least, and I think we may both be able to agree on this, Israel should work with Hamas and the Palestinian Authority to ensure that a unity government is formed once again, and to get Hamas (or the Palestinian Authority security troops, who were actually being transferred to Gaza in accordance with the unity government agreement in June 2014) to crack down on the other Palestinian militant groups in the Gaza Strip.

    Unfortunately, and this is where we may differ, Israel is not interested in peace. It's interested in continuing the status quo, namely the occupation and annexation of Palestinian land.
    Israel doesn't have to recognise Hamas as legitimate to appreciate the fact that they are de facto rulers of Palestine, a title Hamas have no issue proclaiming themselves. So they should get their house in order.
    Israel is entitled to investigate the murders however it pleases. How have you arrived at deciding what's proportionate? Murdering three teenagers and then crying about the consequences does not make Hamas the defender and Israel the aggressor in the war.
    Peace takes two to tango. Until rocket attacks against Israel stop, tunnels stop getting built and abduction attempts cease, I see little reason why Israel should be obligated to make concessions.
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    (Original post by anarchism101)
    Which it actively tried to do from the end of the previous Gaza battle in November 2012 through to early 2014. Meanwhile Israel maintained the blockade as was, in violation of the ceasefire.
    They should have tried harder then, frankly. Buck stops at them.
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    Does Israel recognize and accept Hamas as the legitimate government of Gaza?
    No. Recognising that Hamas is the de facto government of Gaza and the group ultimately in charge over there is not the same as recognising them as legitimate.
    It's the same as how the Taliban was ultimately deemed responsible for sheltering Al Qaeda even though neither the United States nor UK recognised them as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.
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    (Original post by Altun63)
    You call it BS ?
    Honestly? Double BS.
    You're from Israel of course you're not going to complain or have sympathy for them.
    Yeah, I have no sympathy for liars.
    You carry the Zionist ideology
    I have news for you - the Jewish state already exists.
    you live in the land of the Palestinian people
    I don't know such land.
    you're government claims Palestine is trying to "wipe you of the map"
    Palestinians claim it. Don't you believe them?
    Don't get me wrong I love jewish people.
    Have you heard about crocodile tears?
    Its not Jews that are the real terrorists its the Zionists.
    And who are the Zionists? Papuans? :cool:
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    (Original post by admonit)
    Honestly? Double BS.

    Yeah, I have no sympathy for liars.

    I have news for you - the Jewish state already exists.

    I don't know such land.

    Palestinians claim it. Don't you believe them?

    Have you heard about crocodile tears?

    And who are the Zionists? Papuans? :cool:
    The Zionist state will soon collapse don't worry. Just like it states in your Torah that Zionists will one day come to destruction.

    Having looked at your posts, they're all about Jews. When you're human do acknowledge that your own government has spilt innocent blood on the land of the Palestine then you might come to your senses.

    I'm not saying that the Palestine and groups such as Hamas are innocent nor justify their actions but the damage they do to you is only a fraction of what you've done to them IN THEIR OWN LANDS.

    P.s I love Jews, just not the ones that murder innocent people. As a Jew you should condemn any sort of killing as stated in your commands.


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    Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, on Jan. 29 Jan. 2016, acknowledged that the organization is digging new terrorist tunnels and experimenting with rockets. Speaking at the funeral of seven Hamas terrorists killed in a Gaza tunnel collapse this week, due to heavy rains and floods, Haniyeh said, "The heroes are digging in eastern Gaza, and in western Gaza are experimenting with rockets." Haniyeh's remarks constitute the first hint since the end of Operation Protective Edge by a senior Hamas official that Hamas is building offensive tunnels. "Tunnels underground, and rockets above the ground," said Haniyeh. "We are continuing on the path of jihad and towards the territories' liberation. The resistance is in a state of preparation, improvement and equipping of all its weapons in order to be ready for the any conflict with Israel." (Ynet/Arutz-7)
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    (Original post by Altun63)
    The Zionist state will soon collapse don't worry.
    people have been saying this for a while now

    Yet it still exists
 
 
 
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