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    (Original post by Grand High Witch)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...haria-law.html

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...ard-2016_04_09

    This is pretty worrying for gay people. I would understand a poll if half of British Muslims felt homosexuality is wrong in line with their beliefs, but this goes a step further and half are saying they also want it outlawed.
    Well if they think it it wrong, perhaps they should go to a country with those views, eg Malaysia, Dubai, etc, homophobia is backwards and outdated and we don't want it in our society.
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    (Original post by OGGUS)
    They aren't really Muslim then... think about it.
    Muslims don't hate gays, they hate people who practice it.
    Those people practice it because there possessed by something and need help.
    Possessed? What time do you live in? The middle ages?!

    http://www.pnas.org/content/96/13/7128.short
    http://www.pnas.org/content/105/27/9403.short
    http://www.pnas.org/content/89/15/7199.Short
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...18506X01916824
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...0689939090350K
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...18506X09000610
    http://www.pnas.org/content/102/20/7356.short

    Sexuality has nothing to do with being possessed or illness or disability or anything else of that nature. It's uncontrollable and appears to be due to structural differences in the brain, which in turn suggests that it may be genetic.

    (Original post by OGGUS)
    No one said love the gay... Make sure the gay suppresses the feelings so that they can enter paradise. Not my problem if you wanna be gay. Cuz that your ****.
    Show me one bit of valid evidence (no, the deluded prattling of a medieval genocidal megalomaniac does not count) that gay people won't enter 'paradise.' You don't have any, point proven.


    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    I thought the acceptance of the intolerant was nearly heresy in the eyes of the gay lobby?

    If they preach acceptance, why ban UKIP from supporting homosexuals at gay pride?

    Why do they continue to label opponents of gay marriage as bigots or homophobes when it is simply an opinion?

    Doesn't sound like acceptance to me.
    PRSOM.
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    Ugh! I hate that they do this to us. I hate that the Islamists have forced those of us who are freedom-orientated to harden our hearts and support measures like drones, targeted killings, invasions, that we otherwise might not.

    I'm a pretty chill guy, a bit of a hippie. I'd rather sit around listening to Buffalo Springfield* (see below) and smoke a bit of ganj, and have goodwill to all, that sort of thing. I suppose the last 15 years has made me realise that we have to respond forcefully to defend our civilisation and way of life.

    They act like they're the only ones who have principles, who care about something. Well, we have principles too, and I'm sick of constantly having to compromise to accommodate these people. No more. They should be expelled from this country, they are quite simply incompatible with the values of our civilisation

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    (Original post by OGGUS)
    They aren't really Muslim then... think about it.
    Muslims don't hate gays, they hate people who practice it.
    Those people practice it because there possessed by something and need help.
    You don't hate them, you just hate them enjoying the same sort of basic right to intimacy with their loved ones that everyone else can enjoy. That totally makes sense.
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    This simply isn't true, how was every single British Muslim polled huh? I wasn't polled. Stop exaggerating every single thing, it polled 1801 people in 1 city where there is many other factors involved rather than just being Muslim...
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    You don't hate them, you just hate them enjoying the same sort of basic right to intimacy with their loved ones that everyone else can enjoy. That totally makes sense.
    I don't hate them, they do whatever they want... I was in a *****y mood when i posted most of this lol
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    This simply isn't true, how was every single British Muslim polled huh? I wasn't polled. Stop exaggerating every single thing, it polled 1801 people in 1 city where there is many other factors involved rather than just being Muslim...
    Do you understand basic statistics? Sample sizes? Margins of error? How on earth can you progress through the educational system without learning this stuff?
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    This simply isn't true, how was every single British Muslim polled huh? I wasn't polled. Stop exaggerating every single thing, it polled 1801 people in 1 city where there is many other factors involved rather than just being Muslim...
    It's called sampling. What do you think - surveys poll every person on the census? Dunce.
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    Do you understand basic statistics? Sample sizes? Margins of error? How on earth can you progress through the educational system without learning this stuff?
    Mind blowing stuff.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    I just read the article and it didnt take into consideration of the child before they were adopted. Things like depression and becoming arrested more doesn't mean that gay adoption is wrong. Depression is also genetic. I just schemed read the article and already found some few points that are worth considering.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...e-8518004.html

    What do you think of this article then?
    You've linked a newspaper article. That has the academic credibility of a child's scribblings. If you want to be taken seriously you'll need to post academic papers or links to official websites.
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    Do you understand basic statistics? Sample sizes? Margins of error? How on earth can you progress through the educational system without learning this stuff?
    Do you not understand that a Muslim living in London and a Muslim living elsewhere is brought up in a different environment. There are several cultural issues prevalent in the Muslim community of people not wanting to let go of their own prejudices.

    Any it still cannot be claimed half of all British Muslims want to ban homosexuality, because that sample size and location isn't representative of the whole nation.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    You've linked a newspaper article. That has the academic credibility of a child's scribblings. If you want to be taken seriously you'll need to post academic papers or links to official websites.
    ??
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    (Original post by Howard)
    It's called sampling. What do you think - surveys poll every person on the census? Dunce.
    There's more to that issue than sampling, and either way its still not representative.
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    Any it still cannot be claimed half of all British Muslims want to ban homosexuality, because that sample size isn't representative of the whole nation.
    So you don't understand the concept of sample sizes?
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    Relatively large meaning a minority of Muslims?

    Muslims are one of the most privileged groups in the UK. It is classed as a hate crime to criticize them or their religion and diversity quotas mean they will always find employment, whether they are skilled or not.

    Although it will never happen, if Sharia law was implemented in the UK the best case scenario would be a ban on homosexuality, and worst case would be the killing of gays. Why the LGBT community sides with Islam I will never know.
    Sharia is and will be implemented in the UK, regardless of if you like it or not*.

    * Unless the mass migration of Muslims into the UK is immediately stopped and deportations begin of those with the general beliefs that the survey identified.
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    So you don't understand the concept of sample sizes?
    Explain then please?

    Because I'm certain a sample size of 1800 in one city does not represent the approx. 2.7 million in the whole UK.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Sharia is and will be implemented in the UK, regardless of if you like it or not*.

    * Unless the mass migration of Muslims into the UK is immediately stopped and deportations begin of those with the general beliefs that the survey identified.
    We need Farage! Only he can save us from regressing to the dark ages!
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    There's more to that issue than sampling, and either way its still not representative.
    Thanks for confirming you don't understand what a sample size is.

    Also interesting that you said the Muslims in "that city" can't be representative.

    What city? There's no indication the interviews were in just one location.

    Perhaps you should brush up on polling and statistics so you can better understand how you can deduce the views of large numbers of people through mathematically-determined sample sizes. Clearly that's not something you understand
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    in one city
    What city? Why are you claiming it's just in one city?
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    (Original post by Zain-A)
    Explain then please?
    The science of statistics is extremely well proven and has been for a long time.7

    You can be mathematically almost certain that for a population of, say, 5 million that you can deduce their views through polling with a confidence level of about 95% and a margin of error of about 3% by polling around 2,000 people from within the group.

    That's simply a scientific fact, proven over decades. You clearly don't understand the science of statistics and polling, hence you start asking stupid questions about how polling about 2000 people could show the views of millions with accuracy
 
 
 
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