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    I don't know.
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    (Original post by PrinceProsperity)
    Yes, not believing in god is just an excuse to sin is it not?
    Lol. Yeah, it's that and not that there's no proof of his existence or that most of what's included in the "holy" books is either disturbing or plain wrong

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    'I don't know if I can post my religious beliefs on TSR, I wish to keep this private as my belief in Allah is strong and I do not believe in making it public,'.
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    Debatable.
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    I find you pleasant enough company, I will admit. I'm having complimentary moment, what can I say.
    Hehe. :yeah:

    But of course. Wouldn't want you getting too soft on us, now. :rolleyes:
    I never get soft. Never.

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    Is this part of your punishment or your pay packet? :beard:
    Can't you deduce that from the :cry: emoji? :holmes:

    While I hesitate to make accusations,
    Yeah, riiiight. :eviltongue:

    I'd swear you're starting to enjoy this.
    On the advice of counsel, I would like to exercise my Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. :pierre:

    But yes, I shall wait in dread at my fax machine. I was not aware I was in possession of a fax machine, but you learn new things everyday, I suppose. :awesome:
    You don't have a fax machine?! :eek3:
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Lol. Yeah, it's that and not that there's no proof of his existence or that most of what's included in the "holy" books is either disturbing or plain wrong

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    But if god isn't real who created the world?
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    (Original post by Rhythmical)
    'I don't know if I can post my religious beliefs on TSR, I wish to keep this private as my belief in Allah is strong and I do not believe in making it public,'.
    What are those apostrophe's around the words?
    Anyways... OKAY!
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    (Original post by misslovinggrace)
    There is no evidence of many things in this world yet we still believe in them. It's called faith.


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    What are those apostrophe's around the words?
    Anyways... OKAY!

    I don't know, but I just shortened my answer lol.
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    (Original post by PrinceProsperity)
    But if god isn't real who created the world?
    If God is real who created him?

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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    no I view God as a superstition there is no evidence for him/her. It is far more likely that everything (life) gradually adapted to earth rather than was made perfect to begin with.
    You speak as though evolution and a deity are mutually exclusive?
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    If God is real who created him?

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    god cannot be created.
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    If God is real who created him?

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    Nothing. Eternal.
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    You speak as though evolution and a deity are mutually exclusive?
    Well I believe they are. No religion out there mentions evolution, you may get some clever theologian to come along and say God created evolution I would say that is merely back tracking after they have been caught out. All religions say God created everything so the scientific fact of evolution directly contradicts that.
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    Most of us have never seen the evidence or understood the numbers that show the Earth revolves around the Sun. We trust our teachers, science and our common sense. But, unless you are at a lab and were part of the experiments first hand, you're just taking someone's word for it.

    You expect your parents love you because they says they do. But do you have direct evidence of this? Do you have biological samples that show the chemicals that trigger the emotion of love in their brains?

    I could go on and on. The point is almost everything in the world requires FAITH.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    Well I believe they are. No religion out there mentions evolution, you may get some clever theologian to come along and say God created evolution I would say that is merely back tracking after they have been caught out. All religions say God created everything so the scientific fact of evolution directly contradicts that.
    Why do you have to be religious or even believe in a personal God. Deism can still work with evolution.
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    (Original post by PrinceProsperity)
    Yes, not believing in god is just an excuse to sin is it not?
    So people who believe in God don't sin?
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    (Original post by PrinceProsperity)
    god cannot be created.
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    Nothing. Eternal.
    You both just defeated your points. Religious people decline to accept that Earth was created without a "Creator". If Earth necessarily needed a creator, what makes you think God does not have s creator himself - and so on?

    Also, do people actually think that Earth was created 6000 years ago, and God spoke words which materialised? Doesn't sound like someone's imagination at all :rolleyes:

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    Most of us have never seen the evidence or understood the numbers that show the Earth revolves around the Sun. We trust our teachers, science and our common sense. But, unless you are at a lab and were part of the experiments first hand, you're just taking someone's word for it.

    You expect your parents love you because they says they do. But do you have direct evidence of this? Do you have biological samples that show the chemicals that trigger the emotion of love in their brains?

    I could go on and on. The point is almost everything in the world requires FAITH.
    no those things are underpinned by thr fact we can see our parents love us through their actions we can see planets on tv and the sky etc. There is a difference between partial faith and blind faith. Religion is based on blind faith as in there is no reinforcement or even minuscule evidence. Also everyone agrees on the planets etc but all religions contradict each other.
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    (Original post by misslovinggrace)
    Most of us have never seen the evidence or understood the numbers that show the Earth revolves around the Sun. We trust our teachers, science and our common sense. But, unless you are at a lab and were part of the experiments first hand, you're just taking someone's word for it.

    You expect your parents love you because they says they do. But do you have direct evidence of this? Do you have biological samples that show the chemicals that trigger the emotion of love in their brains?

    I could go on and on. The point is almost everything in the world requires FAITH.
    No, don't be moving the goalposts now. Your initial comment was that there are plenty of things for which there is NO evidence, not that there are things most of us haven't seen which we know to be true. There IS evidence for the Earth going round the sun which comes from the known natural laws.

    While you may not have read the scientific evidence, it's still there, that's the point. If you wanted to you could go and read the proofs for all of these things and do the necessary experiments in the lab. So you not having bothered to read the evidence for yourself doesn't mean it isn't there.

    There is, however, not an iota of scientific or empirical evidence for a god's existence.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    no those things are underpinned by thr fact we can see our parents love us through their actions we can see planets on tv and the sky etc. There is a difference between partial faith and blind faith. Religion is based on blind faith as in there is no reinforcement or even minuscule evidence. Also everyone agrees on the planets etc but all religions contradict each other.
    The same way you can see your parents love you by their actions I can see that God is real through miracles and unexplainable things.
 
 
 
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