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    I thought I remembered this.

    It's worth noting that on another thread the OP thought that the University of Banterbury was a real place.
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    Unless you go to oxbridge....who cares if you go to any other 'presigious' uni to get a degree in a mickey mouse subject. I know plenty of people like that and those who did stem based subjects at lower ranked unis are now in better paid, professional careers. Prestige helps but it's not the be all and end all. Alot of employers haven't sat and memorised league tables. It's a combination of what you studied, what your career goal is, experience, networking, social skills etc.
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    (Original post by Sara_t)
    Unless you go to oxbridge....who cares if you go to any other 'presigious' uni to get a degree in a mickey mouse subject. I know plenty of people like that and those who did stem based subjects at lower ranked unis are now in better paid, professional careers. Prestige helps but it's not the be all and end all. Alot of employers haven't sat and memorised league tables. It's a combination of what you studied, what your career goal is, experience, networking, social skills etc.
    LSE? Imperial?
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    (Original post by Keyhofi)
    It's not that hard to see through the RG unis. First, research into them. They aren't specially selected universities. In fact, they are 100% self-declared. There isn't anything inherently special about them and while in general they are highly ranked overall, there are many non-RG unis that easily compete with them (take places like Bath, Surrey, and St Andrews for instance). There isn't an external organisation who has carefully picked which unis deserve to be RG.

    Second, the urban myth that higher ranked unis have harder exams isn't true. If it were true then exam difficulty would fluctuate massively year on year as universities jump around the rankings regularly. The ranking your uni is at when you start your degree will probably be quite different to the ranking it has when you graduate.

    Third, since starting a doctorate degree I've been sent to study at several unis who specialise in different areas so I can supposedly receive world class learning from each. I've studied modules at a total of four different unis, of which one was RG, and it is unfortunate to say but the RG uni was the lowest quality out of all of them. Let me show you an exam question from a Master's level exam paper from 2014 aimed at MEng (engineering) and MSc (science) students.


    This is from a 100-mark paper (2 hours). Read it carefully. Now, I might be biased as I come from a physics background and so I've encountered many equations in my time, whereas engineers are more used to wordy questions, but this question seems ridiculously easy. You have an equation, and the terms in the equation are explained. It then tells you to calculate the first 4 sub-band energies (i.e. n=1, 2, 3, 4. Anyone who studied this module would know n was the sub-band level). You are given h-bar in a separate handout. So you have every single term needed for the equation and the equation is already arranged into the correct form. All you have to do is put the numbers in for 4 marks.
    And then once you've done that you put another number in for another 4 marks.
    And then after that you repeat once more for 4 more marks.
    You've now gained over an entire grade from something that a 10 year old could do.
    Welcome to the way RG unis assess their students.

    I'm not going to name unis here, and in the RG's defence this paper was quite difficult to get a high grade on, and yeah it was aimed at Master level engineers who might not be very experienced when it comes to putting numbers in equations. However all others unis I went to and sat exams at the exam papers literally contained zero 'easy' questions. It was all brutal challenges from the very beginning to the very end. This RG uni seemed to not want any students to fail so they put in a few easy questions so everyone could get up to the pass mark. Certainly makes them look better if fewer students fails.

    So yeah, the rumours about RG unis having harder exams than non-RG ones... load of crap. At best they are equal, at least when it comes to high grades.

    What I have found from my travels to many different unis is that each one has its own feel and personality. The town or city it's in does too. Both these factors need to be taken into account when you are choosing your uni. You aren't missing out if you don't go to an RG uni in the slightest. They are really overdone and good unis need to be chosen by someone external, not by unis self-declaring themselves as special.
    That paper is from QMUL... I recognise it lol. Tell me if im right?
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    Prestige is important, but what is considered prestigious depends on what course you are taking. For some courses e.g. Law the prestige of the course is more important than the overall prestige of the university, which is why you see some universities being held in higher regard others for Law than they are generally. For courses like English, I imagine the general prestige is more important.
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    How important is university prestige?

    I've given this a lot of thought, read every debate on it on TSR, and I have come up with the definitive answer:

    42

    University prestige is 42 important. :hat:
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    (Original post by Wisefire)
    Thoughts on the prestige of a Business and/or Management degree from Manchester, Durham, UCL, Warwick or KCL? The order of those five universities listed is descending in the likelihood I give of getting offers and getting into these choices I shall be applying for later this year, the fifth university, KCL, being least likely.
    Please. Stop. Asking. The. Same. Questions.

    You got your answers in the IB forum, leave it be.

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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Prestige is important, but what is considered prestigious depends on what course you are taking. For some courses e.g. Law the prestige of the course is more important than the overall prestige of the university, which is why you see some universities being held in higher regard others for Law than they are generally. For courses like English, I imagine the general prestige is more important.
    For medicine maybe but not for law. The majority of firms recruit the majority of their graduates from the top twenty universities in the country.
    Law is massively oversubscribed and if there were a free market in fees many of the less prestigious universities would probably go under with their low schools. **
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    (Original post by giella)
    For medicine maybe but not for law. The majority of firms recruit the majority of their graduates from the top twenty universities in the country.
    Law is massively oversubscribed and if there were a free market in fees many of the less prestigious universities would probably go under with their low schools. **
    Oh yes, what you say is correct. But I was talking about within the top 20. You see some universities for Law being higher-rated than other top 20 universities generally, not just in terms of ranking but in the preferences of recruiting firms.
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    If YOU are attending a school, it should be prestigious because YOU are working/thinking/studying there. If your school is 'wack'......... it's because you go there.




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    Which person put Warwick ahead of LSE, Imperial and UCL? What has Warwick ever even done?


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    (Original post by GradeA*UnderA)
    Which BTEC Barry put Warwick ahead of LSE, Imperial and UCL? What has Warwick ever even done?


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    It's in no particular order you numpty

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    It's in no particular order you numpty

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    There's no need to be sexist and racist, God.

    Okay, let me rephrase my question. Why is Warwick in the same tier as LSE, UCL and Imperial? UCL and Imperial's good courses stretch further than maths and economics (the courses that typically account for Warwick's inflated reputation).
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    (Original post by GradeA*UnderA)
    There's no need to be sexist and racist, God.

    Okay, let me rephrase my question. Why is Warwick in the same tier as LSE, UCL and Imperial? UCL and Imperial's good courses stretch further than maths and economics (the courses that typically account for Warwick's inflated reputation).
    The better Q is, why does it trigger you so much?


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    It really doesnt matter where you study, a unis rep will just give someone an idea of your standards which might not even be accurate. People fail at top unis as well as the bottom ones. And a top uni doesn't automatically grant you a top career. They can even act as a burden.

    Uni rep will only give you a slight edge for the competitive careers, you know Medicine, Law....but then again if your grades and work exp aren't up to scratch then it won't matter. You'll get destroyed by everyone else, regardless of where they studied.

    All you need is a top degree and work exp...tbh its more about who you know and how hard you will work. Yes, a unis rep is a nice thing to have, but that alone isn't enough.


    Oh and people are seriously arguing over the uni groupings??? Really???
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    The better Q is, why does it trigger you so much?


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    It doesn't; it intrigues me to uncover the causation in the stupidity of the tiers. Given the lack of an answer from yourself, I'm assuming you have no good reason as to why it's turned out like this.
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    Oh and people are seriously arguing over the uni groupings??? Really???[/QUOTE]

    It's a good way to past the time when you have insomnia.
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    (Original post by GradeA*UnderA)
    It's a good way to past the time when you have insomnia.
    Fair enough.
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    (Original post by GradeA*UnderA)
    It doesn't; it intrigues me to uncover the causation in the stupidity of the tiers. Given the lack of an answer from yourself, I'm assuming you have no good reason as to why it's turned out like this.
    Lack of answer to a fairly silly question..

    Warwick has been consistently ranked top 10 in local league tables for over 20+ years, their strength isn't just in Maths and Econ... The students they compete for in their best courses tend to apply to Oxbridge alongside Imperial/LSE. Couple that with the level of attention it receives from top employers, and you have a perfectly valid position.

    So I'm not sure what bone you have to pick with Warwick or whatever, but it doesn't need to fight its case at all.

    Would have preferred not to engage in this pissing contest tbh

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    (Original post by Gman786)
    That paper is from QMUL... I recognise it lol. Tell me if im right?
    Nope.
 
 
 
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