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    (Original post by infairverona)
    It's nonsense in your view. I don't need to think about maths, I don't think it's as useful as languages 'period'
    Really? If it was not for mathematics, we would not be having this conversation. Do I need to continue?
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    (Original post by Broscientist)
    Really? If it was not for mathematics, we would not be having this conversation. Do I need to continue?
    If it wasn't for language we literally wouldn't be having this conversation...
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    If it wasn't for language we literally wouldn't be having this conversation...
    You brought up the point that learning a second language is far more valuable. Not being able to utilize any language at all.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    Yes, and now I work in research...what's your point?
    saying this wont make your point any stronger. You didnt do a degree in the sciences so it doesnt make your already silly point any more valid.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Law is mostly memorising and learning things by heart
    Isn't everything, including STEM, just memorising things and applying them?
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Isn't everything, including STEM, just memorising things and applying them?
    There is a lot of creativity and problem-solving involved when you are programming something or solving a complex maths problem.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Isn't everything, including STEM, just memorising things and applying them?
    ofc not lol
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    (Original post by Broscientist)
    There is a lot of creativity and problem-solving involved when you are programming something or solving a complex maths problem.
    I don't dispute it.

    But you've learnt and memorised the methods of solving the problem, similar to how a History student learns dates and accounts, and applies them when forming a viewpoint on a complex event.

    STEM isn't the only field to employ problem-solving skills. I might even argue that the creativity and problem-solving skills developed through STEM are lesser to those developed through arts, because in STEM there tends to be a strict method you have to go through to solve a problem, whereas in other subjects the problem-solving process tends to be more free-flowing. In the real world, there aren't often clear routes you can go through to solve a problem; it's more ambiguous.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    ofc not lol
    You memorise the methods, right? Without the methods, how would you solve the problem? You can't use 'creativity' to solve a maths problem.
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    how insecure must you be about your career prospects to have to make this thread and reassure yourself?
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    Maybe both sides should get down off their respective high horses?

    You only have to look at the engineering marvels around the world to know that STEM involves creativity, at the same time there's no doubt in my mind that society would be a lesser place without the cultural contributions of non-STEM.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    You memorise the methods, right? Without the methods, how would you solve the problem? You can't use 'creativity' to solve a maths problem.
    You dont just memorise, you understand, think logically. You cant memorise and expect even a 2:2 degree. You have to think logically.

    At uni level, it isnt applying a method, its about how that has come about. The logic required isnt something a non STEM degree can teach you.

    You are probably unable to fathom the depths to which you a STEM degree goes to since you use the word 'memorise' when in reality you're actually understanding core fundamentals of a subject, processing it and applying it. You dont go into the depth that a non STEM degree does and thats why STEM degrees are preferred for jobs where a specific degree subject isnt needed (e.g. Investment banking)
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    (Original post by tanyapotter)
    how insecure must you be about your career prospects to have to make this thread and reassure yourself?
    im not
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    You're a troll but for the benefit of others, this STEM superiority attitude is nonsense that isn't really that common in reality. And before you accuse me of being a butthurt non-STEMMER, I've done a STEM Master's degree and am starting a STEM PhD in October.

    Society needs the whole range of subjects and disciplines to function and be vibrant.
    But a lot of the nonsense degrees are non-STEM. But yes, clearly subjects like law and philosophy are rigorous.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    You dont just memorise, you understand, think logically. You cant memorise and expect even a 2:2 degree. You have to think logically.

    At uni level, it isnt applying a method, its about how that has come about. The logic required isnt something a non STEM degree can teach you.

    You are probably unable to fathom the depths to which you a STEM degree goes to since you use the word 'memorise' when in reality you're actually understanding core fundamentals of a subject, processing it and applying it. You dont go into the depth that a non STEM degree does and thats why STEM degrees are preferred for jobs where a specific degree subject isnt needed (e.g. Investment banking)
    You mean as you do with every other subject?

    This is not 'objective'. This is subjective. I mean, you're not even at university! How much can you really know about the matter?

    Better question: Why are you so salty about it?
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    You mean as you do with every other subject?

    This is not 'objective'. This is subjective. I mean, you're not even at university! How much can you really know about the matter?

    Better question: Why are you so salty about it?
    As i said, you cant fathom the depth that a science subject goes into.

    It isnt subjective. Using your logic, a non STEM subject is as valuable as a STEM subject because they both give reasoning skills and problem solving skills. But clearly employers prefer a STEM subject over a non STEM one because of STEM is more respectable in this sense; The core skills taught is more in depth.

    Im not salty, you chose to reply not me.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    As i said, you cant fathom the depth that a science subject goes into.

    It isnt subjective. Using your logic, a non STEM subject is as valuable as a STEM subject because they both give reasoning skills and problem solving skills. But clearly employers prefer a STEM subject over a non STEM one because of STEM is more respectable in this sense; The core skills taught is more in depth.

    Im not salty, you chose to reply not me.
    Why do you even care about what other people do?
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    You dont just memorise, you understand, think logically. You cant memorise and expect even a 2:2 degree. You have to think logically.

    At uni level, it isnt applying a method, its about how that has come about. The logic required isnt something a non STEM degree can teach you.

    You are probably unable to fathom the depths to which you a STEM degree goes to since you use the word 'memorise' when in reality you're actually understanding core fundamentals of a subject, processing it and applying it. You dont go into the depth that a non STEM degree does and thats why STEM degrees are preferred for jobs where a specific degree subject isnt needed (e.g. Investment banking)
    Didn't you bring up the art of memorising with your comment about Law Degrees?

    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    As i said, you cant fathom the depth that a science subject goes into.

    It isnt subjective. Using your logic, a non STEM subject is as valuable as a STEM subject because they both give reasoning skills and problem solving skills. But clearly employers prefer a STEM subject over a non STEM one because of STEM is more respectable in this sense; The core skills taught is more in depth.

    Im not salty, you chose to reply not me.
    It's not as if you started this thread not wanting a reply.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Why do you even care about what other people do?
    So you accept im right. Good.

    I dont care what individuals do, just making a statement; STEM degrees are objectively better than non STEM degrees.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Didn't you bring up the art of memorising with your comment about Law Degrees?
    Of course
    (Original post by JamesN88)
    It's not as if you started this thread not wanting a reply.
    Im implying that poster was upset because they replied.
 
 
 
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