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    More importantly moderate or conservative Muslims believe absolutely ridiculous things, like Muhammad flying to Heaven on a winged horse, Jinn being created by fire (and sundry stupidity), the Sun setting in a muddy pool etc etc etc, and then with this level of belief make moral judgements on the rest of the world.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Seriously, all you do is go on and on and on trying to discredit muslims. Stop. It is just boring, now.
    Are you joking, Islam deserves all the criticism it receives, and any Muslim that calls for beheading deserves jailing for life.

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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    Are you joking, Islam deserves all the criticism it receives, and any Muslim that calls for beheading deserves jailing for life.

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    Islam. Not muslims.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Islam. Not muslims.
    Muslims who call for the beheading of others are following their rotten religion and it's (maybe) interpretive rules. Let's face it if god was any kind of intelligent being he would not allow the koran.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    Muslims who call for the beheading of others are following their rotten religion and it's (maybe) interpretive rules. Let's face it if god was any kind of intelligent being he would not allow the koran.
    Generalising.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Generalising.
    On what? Can't you construct an argument? If you disagree say why.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    On what? Can't you construct an argument? If you disagree say why.
    I can and have done. The argument goes around and around and around.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    I can and have done. The argument goes around and around and around.
    You have not constructed an argument, you have just said "lay off Muslims", yet we know that Islam is producing Muslims with an insatiable appetite for violence. In reality most arguments are not against Muslims but against Islam.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    You have not constructed an argument, you have just said "lay off Muslims", yet we know that Islam is producing Muslims with an insatiable appetite for violence. In reality most arguments are not against Muslims but against Islam.
    Mate, that's this thread and one post. I have discussed this multiple times. I'm tired of the discussion - it goes nowhere. I agree to disagree.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I'm not so sure about the radical part, Erebor. How many of the muslims in the UK would execute or have gays executed? Do you have any statistics on that?
    The better question is how many would say no because it's what is expected of them, but secretly don't really mind. How many of them would welcome their country to become Muslim and slowly at first changes in cultural norms would occur. And in the end we would end up like Pakistan where recently a Muslim council said a law against child brides is against Islam...
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Actually, you don't know your own Bible:

    Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man also lie with mankind, as he leith with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

    Romans 1:32 - "Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenadntbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

    And this is why the NT and the OT absolutely contradict each other.

    I have addressed this accordingly.

    No, it doesn't and again, you do not see my point. You're all blinded by this fixation with being scared of Islam. Calm down.
    Not that I am defending Christianity, but isn't it common knowledge the OT is a piece of ...?

    In fact, what the NT shows is that they realized the OT is a piece of ... and wrote it less, well let's just say vicious.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    Mate, that's this thread and one post. I have discussed this multiple times. I'm tired of the discussion - it goes nowhere. I agree to disagree.
    I have just looked at your posts on religion, I really cannot see any conviction, just the odd throw in line. As regards your multiple discussion, you have 11 posts in religion, it hardly seems like a convinced debater.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    I have just looked at your posts on religion, I really cannot see any conviction, just the odd throw in line. As regards your multiple discussion, you have 11 posts in religion, it hardly seems like a convinced debater.
    It isn't always in religion? It's about this topic in particular. I don't just start debates. I offer my slant when the opportunities come along and I have done. Not really too interested in your findings - give it a rest. I don't wish to argue so stop fishing. You have said your piece, I have disagreed and agreed to disagree. Leave it there. Continue posting your own points and leave me out of it.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    It isn't always in religion? It's about this topic in particular. I don't just start debates. I offer my slant when the opportunities come along and I have done. Not really too interested in your findings - give it a rest. I don't wish to argue so stop fishing. You have said your piece, I have disagreed and agreed to disagree. Leave it there. Continue posting your own points and leave me out of it.
    Which is exactly what I said, you like to throw a spanner in the works, but then get pissed when the spanner reappears on hits you in the head.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    Which is exactly what I said, you like to throw a spanner in the works, but then get pissed when the spanner reappears on hits you in the head.
    What are you even talking about? I don't actually think you understand :lol:. I just don't want to have yet another pointless rant with another irrationally irate little guy at coming up to 2am. What part of that do you not understand? Go and rant at your bedroom wall.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    What are you even talking about? I don't actually think you understand :lol:. I just don't want to have yet another pointless rant with another irrationally irate little guy at coming up to 2am. What part of that do you not understand? Go and rant at your bedroom wall.
    I do not rant, I question. Once you make a statement it is open to critique, unfortunately trolls don't think about critique. Sorry if it's passed your bedtime, Golden slumbers kiss your eyes.
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    (Original post by dozyrosie)
    I do not rant, I question. Once you make a statement it is open to critique, unfortunately trolls don't think about critique. Sorry if it's passed your bedtime, Golden slumbers kiss your eyes.
    You're calling me a troll? Right, okay - no.

    Go to bed and by the way, the whole "its passed your bedtime" gag doesnt really work in the early hours of the morning. Grow up.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    Lol they surveyed 1.3 Billion , seems legit lmao
    Never stopped to wonder how polling for election happens?

    And unlike in the UK, they are pretty darn accurate.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    You're calling me a troll? Right, okay - no.

    Go to bed and by the way, the whole "its passed your bedtime" gag doesnt really work in the early hours of the morning. Grow up.
    The condescension is breathtaking, I am being ordered to bed now, being such a 'little guy'. Do you want to go for the whole put down, thereby proving your superior misogynist view?
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    (Original post by z33)
    I wish I was born 5 generations from now
    Why's that?
 
 
 
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