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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    If anything, we should be comparing humans to our closely related primate species. For example, if one looks at a bonobo's teeth, they look fairly similar to our own teeth. When we examine their diet, they eat mostly fruit, nuts etc.., but they also do consume some animal products such as insects and small mammals. Seeing that our teeth are also quite similar, they would most likely have been used for similar purposes among our early human ancestors. Human teeth for example are perfectly well adapted for eating insects.

    Honestly I cannot disagree with you. Human teeth are hugely similar, it shows human teeth are not made to rip animals apart much like a lion would.
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    Good on you for wanting to go vegan
    Best decision I ever made tbh
    But think about doing it long term because it's the best thing for your health, the environment and the animals! And if you do it right (high carb low fat) then you'll get even more benefits.

    Dairy doesn't make any sense to me. We are the only species that drinks milk past infancy, and the only species that drinks the milk from another species. It's really not good for you, and it makes no sense to say that we need the nutrients that milk gives us, because we aren't supposed to drink it in the first place. Also it's incredibly damaging to the environment and contributes massively to the meat industry which kills billions and billions of animals per year.

    Also we aren't supposed to eat meat, as others have said about the teeth thing. We are frugivores but we are an opportunistic species which helped us to survive, but obviously we don't need to eat everything anymore because we buy our food in supermarkets so it's best to eat what we were meant to.


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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    So I'm a vegetarian and I've been really interested in veganism. After my final exam next week I'm going to try going vegan but I'm nervous I'm going to have a mental breakdown because I love cake from Tescos way too much and I won't be able to have it. And since it's my birthday the week after, I'm a bit nervous because my parents will most probably get non vegan food.

    So because I'm starting out I'm considering going vegan only on the weekends and then building my way up. So if there are any vegans are there, any helpful advice?

    NOTE- I'M ONLY DOING THIS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S NOT A LONG TERM THING.
    Honestly, I really don't think you'll benefit that much from just doing it on weekends only (though it's better than not doing it at all!). I think you should gradually replace/take out animal products over time. I suggest cutting out dairy milk for a week, then cheese the next week e.t.c Good luck!
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    (Original post by Hann95)
    Have a look at freelee the banana girl on YouTube. She's certainly abrasive at first, but if you can see through that, she has a lot of information on veganisms. She's the reason I'm considering going vegan.

    How come you're only considering temporary and not long term?
    My parents don't really like the idea of me going vegan because they're all veggies. They said no at first then I convinced them to just let me try it for a while.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    My parents don't really like the idea of me going vegan because they're all veggies. They said no at first then I convinced them to just let me try it for a while.
    Fair enough. They're probably concerned about the bull you hear that vegans aren't healthy and they're malnurished. So long as you do it properly, it seems to be a very healthy lifestyle, although I'm only speaking from the research I've done so far
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    (Original post by Hann95)
    Fair enough. They're probably concerned about the bull you hear that vegans aren't healthy and they're malnurished. So long as you do it properly, it seems to be a very healthy lifestyle, although I'm only speaking from the research I've done so far
    I've checked out a vegan account but it honestly doesn't seem to be vegan at all :/ They use eggs and eat meat so they're probably vegan wannabes. I've found so vegan recipes I'm going to try out after my birthday
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I've checked out a vegan account but it honestly doesn't seem to be vegan at all :/ They use eggs and eat meat so they're probably vegan wannabes. I've found so vegan recipes I'm going to try out after my birthday
    Yeah using eggs and meat is definitely not vegan, it's not even vegetarian! 😂 I think experimenting and trying different things progressively seems to be the best advice. Swapping things out one by one. I think if you try and drop all animal products out of your diet at once it would be much harder to sustain than if you do it gradually, good luck
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    (Original post by Hann95)
    Yeah using eggs and meat is definitely not vegan, it's not even vegetarian! 😂 I think experimenting and trying different things progressively seems to be the best advice. Swapping things out one by one. I think if you try and drop all animal products out of your diet at once it would be much harder to sustain than if you do it gradually, good luck
    "If you don't make it I'm not scraping your body off the floor"

    My sister said that after I told her I wanted to be vegan. Nice to know she has faith in me.. Thanks!
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    "If you don't make it I'm not scraping your body off the floor"

    My sister said that after I told her I wanted to be vegan. Nice to know she has faith in me.. Thanks!
    I'm sure she's just jesting but I know it's difficult to enter into something without family support. I went veggie when I was about 7 and although my mum supported fully, my dad didn't (mainly because he couldn't be bothered having to cook a different meal for me when I went to stay with him). He made it very difficult and as a result I didn't end up giving up fish and eventually went back to eating meat. But I'm sure if you really enjoy it and it becomes important to you they should see that in time
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    So I'm a vegetarian and I've been really interested in veganism. After my final exam next week I'm going to try going vegan but I'm nervous I'm going to have a mental breakdown because I love cake from Tescos way too much and I won't be able to have it. And since it's my birthday the week after, I'm a bit nervous because my parents will most probably get non vegan food.

    So because I'm starting out I'm considering going vegan only on the weekends and then building my way up. So if there are any vegans are there, any helpful advice?

    NOTE- I'M ONLY DOING THIS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S NOT A LONG TERM THING.
    I went vegan 18 months ago and I love it, before I ate meat so I know what it's like to make the transition.

    The first thing I'd recommend is share that you're trying out a plant-based lifestyle - when you say vegan people freak out!!! Plant-based sounds gentler IMO. Party food can be tricky, especially because they'll be catering for everyone and assume everyone else eats meat/ veggie etc.

    I love stir-fries and they are so easy to make, I make a dressing from peanut butter, tamari (or soy sauce) garlic, ginger, and Chinese 5 spice, it tastes incredible.

    For lunches try falafel and hummus salad. I also eat a lot of veggie curries - so easy and everyone else enjoys them.

    I have loads of other ideas, I could go on and on and on! Are you doing this for health reasons? Let me know I have lots of other recommendations if you're interested

    Good luck with it
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    (Original post by She-Ra)
    I went vegan 18 months ago and I love it, before I ate meat so I know what it's like to make the transition.

    The first thing I'd recommend is share that you're trying out a plant-based lifestyle - when you say vegan people freak out!!! Plant-based sounds gentler IMO. Party food can be tricky, especially because they'll be catering for everyone and assume everyone else eats meat/ veggie etc.

    I love stir-fries and they are so easy to make, I make a dressing from peanut butter, tamari (or soy sauce) garlic, ginger, and Chinese 5 spice, it tastes incredible.

    For lunches try falafel and hummus salad. I also eat a lot of veggie curries - so easy and everyone else enjoys them.

    I have loads of other ideas, I could go on and on and on! Are you doing this for health reasons? Let me know I have lots of other recommendations if you're interested

    Good luck with it
    Yup doing it for health reasons! I will do thanks! I was worried about not being able to eat cake but I found a vegan cake recipe book online so I'm happy
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    (Original post by JavaScriptMaster)
    Humans have sharp teeth for a reason... Veganism is for deer and cows
    umm humans don't have sharp teeth we have flat teeth which are designed for grinding e.g like a herbivore
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Yup doing it for health reasons! I will do thanks! I was worried about not being able to eat cake but I found a vegan cake recipe book online so I'm happy
    There are lots of delicious cakes you can have! Don't worry

    I did it for health reasons to and seen a huge difference in my energy levels, skin and overall fitness. Also my flexibility. Overall I feel more in tune with my body. I try to stay away from gluten if I can, generally because everything feels better when I do.

    Things you have to try:

    Vego bar - hazelnut and chocolate - like Cadbury's whole nut but better
    Hummus chips - lemon and chilli - insane!
    Spiralizar to make your own noodles, a great way of eating more veggies. Try carrot, courgette, beetroot and squash
    Oh she glows website - so many cakes!
    Deliciously Ella
    Recently discovered Hot for food
    Aldi now do sweetened and unsweetened almond mylk. I get all my veggies from there! So cheap!

    Are you on Instagram? My pal LinnyPinny77 recommended that I join as soon as I made the transition and it's helped me so much and really opened up my eyes to plant-based food and all the possibilities. The vegan community on IG is very supportive, definitely worth a look
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    (Original post by She-Ra)
    There are lots of delicious cakes you can have! Don't worry

    I did it for health reasons to and seen a huge difference in my energy levels, skin and overall fitness. Also my flexibility. Overall I feel more in tune with my body. I try to stay away from gluten if I can, generally because everything feels better when I do.

    Things you have to try:

    Vego bar - hazelnut and chocolate - like Cadbury's whole nut but better
    Hummus chips - lemon and chilli - insane!
    Spiralizar to make your own noodles, a great way of eating more veggies. Try carrot, courgette, beetroot and squash
    Oh she glows website - so many cakes!
    Deliciously Ella
    Recently discovered Hot for food
    Aldi now do sweetened and unsweetened almond mylk. I get all my veggies from there! So cheap!

    Are you on Instagram? My pal LinnyPinny77 recommended that I join as soon as I made the transition and it's helped me so much and really opened up my eyes to plant-based food and all the possibilities. The vegan community on IG is very supportive, definitely worth a look
    I want to actually try making courgetti but does it really taste like whear spaghetti? I was looking at Tescos and they do have vegan pasta and stuff but I want to try with other vegetables.
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    (Original post by TheDescendant)
    DO NOT GO VEGAN
    I'm a vegetarian (never tried meat) and have to take occasional supplements to ensure that I am getting enough protein etc. With veganism you get nothing. You need some animal products. Also alternatives e.g. soya milk have no where near the required amount of nutrients- it was in a BBC program a few days ago. It's already hard enough for me as a vegetarian finding places to eat. Being vegan it's very very difficult. I can only think of one restaurant that serves prior vegan food

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    Most people are deficient in vitamins such as B12 and protein, even meat eaters. Things like lentils and chickpeas are great sources of protein. Soya milk might not have as many nutrients but it also has less hormones and fat in it. Milk from a cow is designed to help a 200 odd pound calf grow into a big strong cow, hence why it's so full of fat and calories.

    I'm not vegan but I try and eat as plant based as possible and there's loads of restaurants that do vegan food. Wagamamas, Handmade burger do amazing vegan burgers, Las iguanas, Giraffe and the Zizzis pizza is so good with the vegan cheese. Pizza express also do a vegan pizza. Supermarkets like Tesco and Morrisons are growing their vegan range day by day and labelling it better. You can get vegan cornettos and choc ices or ice cream splits.

    M&S do loads of jelly sweets that are vegan and they're pretty cheap. Yes these aren't healthy alternatives but for someone who's wanting to celebrate their birthday these are great ideas. Mr Kipling are pretty good for sweet treats too I know their jam tarts are vegan. You can soya or coconut coffee from Starbucks. You can get bloody vegan sausage rolls for £1 at The Pound Bakery! These are junk food ideas but still, the range is endless.

    As for vegan cakes there are loads of recipes online and instead of buying one you could always ask your mum to make you one?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I want to actually try making courgetti but does it really taste like whear spaghetti? I was looking at Tescos and they do have vegan pasta and stuff but I want to try with other vegetables.
    It's a lot lighter than pasta but really filling. I usually have a whole courgette to myself and sometimes I eat it raw.... it needs very little cooking.
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    (Original post by idontknowmedoyou)
    If you had a steak every day you are slowly killing yourself. Yum all that heart disease, cancer and diabetes.
    Myth busting time!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/998550

    "The mean daily consumption of each dietary component was virtually identical in all tertiles for men and women but differed between sexes. Cholesterol and triglyceride levels were unrelated to quality, quantity, or proportions of fat, carbohydrate, or protein consumed in the 24-hr recall period."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...02487-0037.pdf

    "There is no correlation of any size between diet values and bloodfor all 99 men in the study (column a), nor (column b) forthe 47 individuals with the most substantial information-that is, those who did two diet surveys and also hadat least two cholesterol measurements."

    "There is thus no evidence of any sizable associationbetween what these men ate and their plasma-cholesterol level."

    "The range of cholesterol values is similar atboth ends of the scale of consumption: there is no signof a significant (in any sense) association between"dietary " intake and plasma cholesterol."

    "Results are as by now expected: there is no hint of a trend. The range of cholesterol values among these men is 154-324 mg. /100 ml., and, as Table IV shows, it is very much the same in each of the four " quarters " of the distributions of these main categories of fat intake."


    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...art-specialist
    http://www.science20.com/news_articl...disease-131862
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0719083908.htm
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/267834.php

    Well and truly destroyed.

    (Original post by idontknowmedoyou)
    Do your research. I can't believe people don't know how bad the things they are eating are.
    Do your own before criticizing others! :smartass:

    No, nutrition websites don't count. Go find some up to date research papers to back up your claims.

    (Original post by idontknowmedoyou)
    What about the 56 billion animals that are killed every year? How isn't that a reason?
    What about the 67.1 billion plants (only edible crops were included in this figure) that are killed every year for farming in the EU alone?! Vegans and vegetarians are causing this by ditching meat, how isn't that a reason to not go vegan/vegetarian?
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)

    What about the 67.1 billion plants (only edible crops were included in this figure) that are killed every year for farming in the EU alone?! Vegans and vegetarians are causing this by ditching meat, how isn't that a reason to not go vegan/vegetarian?
    Meat eaters actually contribute to much more killing of plants, because it has to be fed to the animals which you get your food from. So if you are going to use the killing of plants as an argument, that's invalid because meat eaters contribute more to that than plant eaters.



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    (Original post by Airbear)
    Meat eaters actually contribute to much more killing of plants, because it has to be fed to the animals which you get your food from. So if you are going to use the killing of plants as an argument, that's invalid because meat eaters contribute more to that than plant eaters.



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