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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    But people stereotype each other all the time.
    It's sexism when it's on the basis of sex. Just because people do it all the time it doesn't make it okay
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    Jon snow?

    Sexism is about having abhorrent views towards women, and i do not have such views.
    I do not approve of the self depreciating lifestyle choices that such women make, such as getting tattoos or getting wasted, but I am not a sexist.
    Women can have careers,drive cars etc

    That actually is sexism.

    You honestly are clueless. I advise you to read a psychological article on sexism or read a textbook. The notion of perceiving swearing, drinking and tattoos as more obscene in women than males is the sheer definition of sexism. There's no logical reason why those acts should be judged worse when done by a woman, other than if the individual judging is prejudice. Which you so clearly are.
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    (Original post by LN1234)
    It's sexism when it's on the basis of sex. Just because people do it all the time it doesn't make it okay

    But how can you condemn if the majority of people do it?
    Its human nature, as we stereotype for a reason, hence if I see a shifty looking character, I am on alert or I find another path, or if I see a woman who is dressed a certain way, I avoid.
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    (Original post by Twinpeaks)
    That actually is sexism.

    You honestly are clueless. I advise you to read a psychological article on sexism or read a textbook. The notion of perceiving swearing, drinking and tattoos as more obscene in women than males is the sheer definition of sexism. There's no logical reason why those acts should be judged worse when done by a woman, other than if the individual judging is prejudice. Which you so clearly are.

    Okay, you might get offended by this so I have warned you, so whether you're a man or a woman, just know that neither genders can be equal.
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    But how can you condemn if the majority of people do it?
    Its human nature, as we stereotype for a reason, hence if I see a shifty looking character, I am on alert or I find another path, or if I see a woman who is dressed a certain way, I avoid.
    Avoiding someone who looks shifty isn't on the basis of sex though. And there's a difference between avoiding someone for your own safety based on actual evidence that they could hurt you (i.e. not race, religion, etc.) and expecting people to act a certain way because of their gender. And what exactly do you mean by a woman who is dressed in a certain way?
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    (Original post by LN1234)
    Avoiding someone who looks shifty isn't on the basis of sex though. And there's a difference between avoiding someone for your own safety based on actual evidence that they could hurt you (i.e. not race, religion, etc.) and expecting people to act a certain way because of their gender. And what exactly do you mean by a woman who is dressed in a certain way?

    You know when a women dresses provocatively?
    Very tight and revealing clothing
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    You know when a women dresses provocatively?
    Very tight and revealing clothing
    Provocative means to intend to cause sexual desire. I told you this on the other thread, but I'll say it again- just because a woman dresses a certain way, it's not always to get a reaction from you. It's your choice if you want to avoid these women, but don't assume they dress like that to cause a reaction from other people. Maybe they just like those clothes.
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    (Original post by LN1234)
    Provocative means to intend to cause sexual desire. I told you this on the other thread, but I'll say it again- just because a woman dresses a certain way, it's not always to get a reaction from you. It's your choice if you want to avoid these women, but don't assume they dress like that to cause a reaction from other people. Maybe they just like those clothes.

    Women like attention from other women, men etc.
    They always want some sort of attention or compliment and they want to feel beautiful at all times.
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    Women like attention from other women, men etc.
    They always want some sort of attention or compliment and they want to feel beautiful at all times.
    Yeah you're never getting laid mate.
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    (Original post by Twinpeaks)
    Yeah you're never getting laid mate.

    As if that has any relevancy to this discussion.
    I can just pay an escort and get "laid"
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    1.5 Benevolent sexism
    1.5 Hostile sexism
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    Women like attention from other women, men etc.
    They always want some sort of attention or compliment and they want to feel beautiful at all times.
    And here is a stereotype on the basis of sex. Congratulations, you've just proved my point. And this blatantly isn't true. Most women I know where make up or nice clothes because it makes them feel good, and they honestly don't care about what other people, especially guys like you, think. Maybe if you spent less time trying to dictate what women should do and why, you'd have realised by now that not everything is about you.
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    (Original post by LN1234)
    And here is a stereotype on the basis of sex. Congratulations, you've just proved my point. And this blatantly isn't true. Most women I know where make up or nice clothes because it makes them feel good, and they honestly don't care about what other people, especially guys like you, think. Maybe if you spent less time trying to dictate what women should do and why, you'd have realised by now that not everything is about you.

    And why do cosmetic and fashion companies use attractive women to advertise there products?
    Because the target audience who use such products do in fact want to feel as attractive as the models who are modeling the said products.
    Yeah they feel good, but they would feel a whole lot better if a person genuinely complemented them.
    Plus if they did not care in what other people think the, would not really be wearing makeup or making as much effort to look good, because whether they're wearing a tracksuit or a designer dress, nobody would care.
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    And why do cosmetic and fashion companies use attractive women to advertise there products?
    Because the target audience who use such products do in fact want to feel as attractive as the models who are modeling the said products.
    Yeah they feel good, but they would feel a whole lot better if a person genuinely complemented them.
    Plus if they did not care in what other people think the, would not really be wearing makeup or making as much effort to look good, because whether they're wearing a tracksuit or a designer dress, nobody would care.
    I'm going to say this again because you don't seem to understand: lots of women dress up or put on make up for themselves. Not you. As you stated, many women want to "feel as attractive as the models who are modeling the said products", which is nothing to do with you or what you think of them. And yes, some people would feel better if complimented. That doesn't mean that they wear make up or nice clothes to be complimented. There are also many people who would rather just be left alone by strangers. The idea that women dress up or should act a certain way (like smiling when they're walking about) solely for the attention of others, especially men, is sexist because it implies that all women need your input to feel good about themselves. Yes, this is the case for some people, but that's because from a young age, many of us are taught that men's opinion's matter more than ours. So instead of claiming that you're not sexist, why don't you work on undoing that damage in a way that doesn't focus the attention on you and other men. I'd recommend starting with minding your own business and just assuming that they don't care about or want your opinion on how they look, especially if they look grumpy
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    (Original post by LN1234)
    I'm going to say this again because you don't seem to understand: lots of women dress up or put on make up for themselves. Not you. As you stated, many women want to "feel as attractive as the models who are modeling the said products", which is nothing to do with you or what you think of them. And yes, some people would feel better if complimented. That doesn't mean that they wear make up or nice clothes to be complimented. There are also many people who would rather just be left alone by strangers. The idea that women dress up or should act a certain way (like smiling when they're walking about) solely for the attention of others, especially men, is sexist because it implies that all women need your input to feel good about themselves. Yes, this is the case for some people, but that's because from a young age, many of us are taught that men's opinion's matter more than ours. So instead of claiming that you're not sexist, why don't you work on undoing that damage in a way that doesn't focus the attention on you and other men. I'd recommend starting with minding your own business and just assuming that they don't care about or want your opinion on how they look, especially if they look grumpy

    Since I am a reasonable person, I shall put an end to this discussion.
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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    So many (young) adults shouldn't act like children, then.
    Free country. I can act and say whatever I want.
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Free country. I can act and say whatever I want.
    And I can criticise it. Don't contradict yourself, now.
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    (Original post by Berke0)
    Women generally are inferior though, nothing I hate more when a broad starts crying for no reason
    Pfft. You're not a man, you're a weasel.
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    3.17 for "hostile sexism".
    0.17 for "benevolent sexism".

    The quiz is nonsense though. It seems to define sexism as just being "against women" - surely that notion is itself sexist?
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    Only when it's convenient for me.


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