What hopes and concerns do you have for how the UK will change?

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    I'm hopeful that Scotland will leave and allow individuals of Scottish descent to claim citizenship.

    That's pretty much all I feel hopeful for. Mostly I just feel crushed and depressed about the future, which appears to be of self inflicted economic doom and decline living in an isolationist country trapped with people who think like Nigel Farage...

    Add to that an undercurrent of ashamed for living in a country apparently full of closet racists.
    Not in the closet any more of course, I guess they are now proud & loud British racists.

    Everything I thought was great about Britain and made me proud to live here kind-of seems to have died in a shell overnight on the 23rd of June.
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    (Original post by shooks)
    Whether you're hopeful or worried about the UK's post-EU future depends largely on how you voted. But what's your biggest hope or concern for how the country may change for young people?

    For instance,this article on The Guardian raises some interesting possibilities.
    - It might be harder to get a job in Europe
    - UK students might have to pay international tuition fees to study at European unis
    - UK graduates might find it easier to find grad-level jobs in the UK
    - It might become harder to travel around Europe
    - House prices might become more affordable
    If i were able to vote I probably would have voted remain because it would mean that we will continue to support those in need of it, i.e. 'immigrants' However, supposedly easier or increased job employment at graduate level, and more affordable house pricing are substantial benefits to us upcoming Britons.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Answer the question?
    So how's Sterling doing?

    Looks to have made a very slight gain yesterday, but I reckon that's just because the UK looks set to remain in the single market.

    What happened to all the things Leave promised? The bright new future? The sovereignty? I thought the plan was that we leave, the EU beg us to stay to the point that they'd give in to our every demand.

    We'd have an amazing new deal before we knew it and things would be better than ever. And anyone who said differently was a scaremonger.

    I find it hilarious at how quickly Vote Leave's position has eroded. They may have won the referendum, but the UK will either stay in the EU or have an agreement so similar (à la Norway) that it makes no difference.

    In return, the UK got a rise in hate crime and generally just looks really silly.*
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    Fear:
    - University tuition rising before my 4 years are up.
    - General cost of living rising.

    Hope:
    - Scottish independence
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Nope, LBC isn't really my kinda gig, although I rate Julia Hartley-Brewer, NGL :yy:
    It's not my kinda gig either . I just believe that people like James O Brien can do far more damage than Guardian journalists . If indeed damage is being done.

    (Of course it also has Katy Hopkins but no one takes her seriously I assume.)
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    So how's Sterling doing?

    Looks to have made a very slight gain yesterday, but I reckon that's just because the UK looks set to remain in the single market.

    What happened to all the things Leave promised? The bright new future? The sovereignty? I thought the plan was that we leave, the EU beg us to stay to the point that they'd give in to our every demand.

    We'd have an amazing new deal before we knew it and things would be better than ever. And anyone who said differently was a scaremonger.

    I find it hilarious at how quickly Vote Leave's position has eroded. They may have won the referendum, but the UK will either stay in the EU or have an agreement so similar (à la Norway) that it makes no difference.

    In return, the UK got a rise in hate crime and generally just looks really silly.*
    Yep.And we are also going to now have Boris Johnson as pm instead of Cameron and a still disunited Tory party and a slowdown in the economy and no doubt other bad things.


    As it says in today's Telegraph,if we do have an agreement a la Norway then this whole issue won't be going away and UKIP will continue to take votes from Labour and grow stronger.

    It's unfair to blame people for voting leave when it was a once in a lifetime chance to escape the EU.
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    (Original post by Tinka99)
    Today is a historic day and the day when the UK has become independent from the EU. I am 16 so couldn't vote but if I did I would vote to leave and I am happy the UK has voted to leave and made a sensible decision.
    "Sensible"? The consequences thus far prove otherwise my friend.
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    (Original post by andrewUK)
    i hope as an nation we stop blaming others such as refugees and immigrants for our mistakes. i hope we learn stop letting xenophobia and patriotism govern our minds and instead we do what is best for our future generations. however the EU result destroyed my hope...
    Does that include the older generation who did vote as opposed to most of the younger generation who didn't vote, who are still complaining 5 days on? :yawn:
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    What are you smoking? :eyeball:

    Immigration isn't the sole reason for which someone might want to leave the EU.
    Xenophobia and patriotism aren't the only possible things to necessitate the hate for the EU.

    Why the heck would you think leaving the EU guarantees a significant increase in xenophobia?
    You clearly haven't read the news. Attacks on Polish embassy, racial chanting, verbal and physical abuse directed at foreigners. I don't think xenophobia will increase, I know it will increase and we have seen it.
    https://next.ft.com/content/d6c3c43e...6-a4a71e8140b0
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...land-and-wales

    And just to prove I'm not being bias here is a pro-leave paper
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...exit-vote.html
    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
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    EU is a dictatorship. The sooner we get out and make new trade deals, the better. We can do this, and Im really happy that we Voted Leave. All we need to do now is make sure we Leave the EU as a whole, elect a good Leave campaign Prime Minister, and activate Article 50 after building new relationships.

    Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission, said anyone wanting access to the EU's internal market had to adhere to strict criteria "without exception". <---- Dictatorship
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    So how's Sterling doing?
    Pretty good, thanks, up from 1.30 to 1.35 :yy:

    The bright new future?
    In Economics, 'long-term' generally means years, rather than days, famalam

    The sovereignty?
    On its way, in due course (lot of work to be done in the meantime)

    I thought the plan was that we leave, the EU beg us to stay to the point that they'd give in to our every demand
    Direct quote?

    We'd have an amazing new deal before we knew it
    Direct quote?

    things would be better than ever
    Direct quote?

    anyone who said differently was a scaremonger
    Direct quote?

    the UK will either stay in the EU or have an agreement so similar (à la Norway) that it makes no difference
    1) Would result in civil revolt; 2) Cameron has made it crystal clear that the EU cannot expect the UK to sign up to free movement, as is

    the UK got a rise in hate crime
    Regrettable, and deplorable, but near-inevitable in the sociological circumstances vs. historic record of complete unwillingness of political elites to engage, properly, with the issue of non-Demoratically mandated mass-immigration, up until now

    (Original post by moggis)
    I just believe that people like James O Brien can do far more damage than Guardian journalists
    IDK your frame of reference but I'll take your word for it
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    I'm concerned about a rise in xenophobic and racial abuse directed at groups of people, but this was inevitable whatever the outcome of the referendum
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    (Original post by andrewUK)
    You clearly haven't read the news. Attacks on Polish embassy, racial chanting, verbal and physical abuse directed at foreigners. I don't think xenophobia will increase, I know it will increase and we have seen it.
    https://next.ft.com/content/d6c3c43e...6-a4a71e8140b0
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...land-and-wales

    And just to prove I'm not being bias here is a pro-leave paper
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...exit-vote.html
    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
    :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

    That is not a study.
    Also as someone with insight mentioned, there's a phenomenon that is was always there, but now reporters are looking for it.
    Yes, there might be more reported attacks; the operative word being reported.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Pretty good, thanks, up from 1.30 to 1.35 :yy:

    In Economics, 'long-term' generally means years, rather than days, famalam

    On its way, in due course (lot of work to be done in the meantime)

    Direct quote?

    Direct quote?

    Direct quote?

    Direct quote?

    1) Would result in civil revolt; 2) Cameron has made it crystal clear that the EU cannot expect the UK to sign up to free movement, as is

    Regrettable, and deplorable, but near-inevitable in the sociological circumstances vs. historic record of complete unwillingness of political elites to engage, properly, with the issue of non-Demoratically mandated mass-immigration, up until now

    IDK your frame of reference but I'll take your word for it
    I appreciate you have already said you will take my word for it but after what I heard today I wanted to explain that I take a lot of cabs in London and a lot of cab drivers -mostly mini cab drivers but also black cabs-seem to listen to LBC and that's how I came to hear him.But Im sure LBC has a reasonably large day time audience figure as well.

    The main point though is that whereas the Guardian is surely read mostly by the type of person who is if not necessarily that intelligent then unlikely to form dangerously wrong conclusions from what they have read, the average LBC listener is ,er,well a cab driver.

    I listened to this guy today and what he does is very very close to deliberately making certain people angry-and not simply to increase listening figures - because he himself is angry.What other agenda he may have I cant say .But I suspect he may have one.

    Hes a very intelligent,quick -witted man and he is able to give the impression that he is just being very concerned when actually,for example, he seems to be deliberately accusing the whole leave campaign including the press of being directly responsible for the increase in racist incidents.And that while not all leave supporters are racists "10-15% " are.

    Now perhaps that doesn't matter. More likely than not it doesn't.(Indeed I only mentioned it because you mentioned The Guardian originally )Perhaps the 10s of 1000s of cab drivers and others won't draw any conclusions which they then pass on to others. But this guy would probably make me angry if I listened regularly while this upheaval is going on. (Although I see that a lot of people think he a t*** so perhaps he shouldn't be taken that seriously.)

    Whereas no Guardian journalist has ever made me angry.

    I really hope that you can give this guy a listen one day and if possible your opinion on the German woman's phone call . Some of the things the woman said don't add up to me.

    Anyway sorry to go on .No need to reply.
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    I am an international student and I saw it on the news that more British→foreigners attacks happening there.
    How serious is that...because that sounds terrible.
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    (Original post by Dieselblue)
    I'm concerned about all the Left wingers leaving, Oh wait. No I'm not. That's a great thing. Sick of left wingers labelling anyone who puts immigration in a negative light a:
    Racist
    Sexist
    Xenophobic
    Facist
    Bigot

    Knowing TSR being infamous for being a site full of left wing 16 year olds I am expecting a lot of hate for this comment.
    :rofl: painfully true.
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    (Original post by moggis)
    he seems to be deliberately accusing the whole leave campaign including the press of being directly responsible for the increase in racist incidents. And that while not all leave supporters are racists "10-15% " are
    The whole media is up to this pitiful nonsense dude, including the BBC. He's probably not far off re: the proportion of leave supporters who are racists/xenophobes, however (from what I've experienced, campaigning), and it is fair to say that the referendum being won in no small part due to the nation rejecting mass immigration has, to some extent, encouraged people to #NoFilter :innocent:
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

    That is not a study.
    Also as someone with insight mentioned, there's a phenomenon that is was always there, but now reporters are looking for it.
    Yes, there might be more reported attacks; the operative word being reported.
    Or there are more reported attacks because there is more hate crimes being committed......:facepalm::facepalm:
    But thanks for agreeing xenophobia/racism does exist. Many 'leavers' refuse to accept it even exists.
    Typical that people try to brush off the fact that xenophobia exists. Even if it is a phenomenon and has always been around (which is your reason). That's zero excuse. It shouldn't exist. Full stop.
    Also they were newspaper articles which can be used show a link or as evidence between the result EU referendum and the increase in the number of hate crimes being committed.
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    (Original post by Boreism)
    Does that include the older generation who did vote as opposed to most of the younger generation who didn't vote, who are still complaining 5 days on? :yawn:
    Most of the people complaining probably DID vote. The ones who didn't vote weren't interested before, so why would they be interested now?

    Posts like this are super tedious.

    Given this decision will not even have its major economic impacts fully felt until at least 2 years down the line, you should brace yourself for complaining to last a hell of a lot longer than 5 days. This was a momentous (and in my opinion) stupid decision which has ramifications for the rest of my life, potentially, not simply a referendum on whether the nation's favourite colour was red or blue.
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    (Original post by seaholme)
    Most of the people complaining probably DID vote.The ones who didn't vote weren't interested before, so why would they be interested now?

    Posts like this are super tedious.

    Given this decision will not even have its major economic impacts fully felt until at least 2 years down the line, you should brace yourself for complaining to last a hell of a lot longer than 5 days. This was a momentous (and in my opinion) stupid decision which has ramifications for the rest of my life, potentially, not simply a referendum on whether the nation's favourite colour was red or blue.
    I did vote. Sure it wasn't the result I had expected, but do you see me moaning and plastering massive rants about it? NO.

    Unfortunately life is full of disappointments sorry to tell you all and you just have to learn to cope and live with it.

    Also there is no pleasing in some people in this day and age as this referendum proves and hence why I think a 2nd referendum will undoubtedly cause riots.
 
 
 
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