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    orchestrated by the Islamophobic right wing party in germany to anger German people and cause more Muslims to become radicalised. #notamuslim
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    (Original post by swiss_cheese)
    Apparently all you xenophobes need to prove that someone is Muslim is either a) Middle-Eastern ethnicity or b) yelling 'allahu ackbar'.

    By this, you can binge drink daily and still Islam is apparently the problem. Wake up, the problem is radicalised youths. The source of this radicalisation is not a sudden, heart-filled desire to help Islam. The source is anger and fear - both of which manifest in countries like Afghanistan, which have suffered from brutal regimes and also failed western foreign policy. All these people know is war and conflict, so they become radicalised.

    Islam is simply the veil these people hide behind, but its not the source and therefore blaming Islam is equally as stupid as blaming the computer monitors through which he found out about ISIS.
    Don't address me as "xenophobe", and go and read the Quran and a few Hadiths. If you still believe that Islam is unlikely to be a large influence in making certain people violent, come back to me. It's pointless me debating something with someone who is blatently ignorant about the subject matter. Of course, you may be a Muslim yourself. In which case, take your blinkers off.
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    (Original post by hoping4thebest)
    orchestrated by the Islamophobic right wing party in germany to anger German people and cause more Muslims to become radicalised. #notamuslim
    Wow regressives are so reasonable, it's definitely the people concerned about Islam who are the hysterical ones, right fellas?
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    (Original post by hoping4thebest)
    orchestrated by the Islamophobic right wing party in germany to anger German people and cause more Muslims to become radicalised. #notamuslim
    I found the radical left version of Alex Jones guys. What next, Is the government poisoning the water to make the fish vote UKIP?
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Don't address me as "xenophobe", and go and read the Quran and a few Hadiths. If you still believe that Islam is unlikely to be a large influence in making certain people violent, come back to me. It's pointless me debating something with someone who is blatently ignorant about the subject matter. Of course, you may be a Muslim yourself. In which case, take your blinkers off.
    Its hilarious that you cry about me calling you a xenophobe, but just one post later you accuse someone of being regressive. I'd have some respect for you if you were consistent.
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    There has been gross misreporting on this news story. 20 haven't been injured, it's 4. 4 ethnic Chinese from Hong Kong on holiday in Germany. The others were treated for shock. Which is nothing compared to the massive life threatening wounds by an axe. According to an eyewitness, the father and boyfriend of his daughter suffered more extensive injuries, as they fought to protect the mother and his girlfriend.

    Note no other people were injured. Only the Chinese. Which suggests a racial motive, as terrorists seek maximum casualties.

    Of course western media are not saying any of this, because it doesn't fit the narrative of Islam vs the West.
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    (Original post by BobSausage)
    Don't you see? This is what the extremists want. They are trying to create a divide between peaceful Muslims and Non-Muslim communities, which makes it easier for them to extremise the younger generations being shunned by the rest of society as a result of the extremist's actions.

    yes, there are some peaceful Muslims , embrace them and make them feel welcome and they're less likely to be extremists.
    problem is, it's getting more and more difficult to distinguish the two. What if the guy you befriend is wielding an axe in his bag and decides to cut you and your family? And more importantly, who is willing to take that chance when their very life and family is at risk?
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    (Original post by Casserole)
    There has been gross misreporting on this news story. 20 haven't been injured, it's 4. 4 ethnic Chinese from Hong Kong on holiday in Germany. The others were treated for shock. Which is nothing compared to the massive life threatening wounds by an axe. According to an eyewitness, the father and boyfriend of his daughter suffered more extensive injuries, as they fought to protect the mother and his girlfriend.

    Note no other people were injured. Only the Chinese. Which suggests a racial motive, as terrorists seek maximum casualties.

    Of course western media are not saying any of this, because it doesn't fit the narrative of Islam vs the West.
    You see I was with you for the first part, but you faield to mention.

    1. Reported shouting of "Allahu akbar" during the attack.
    2. Ownership of IS flag.

    3. The fact ISIS have released a video of him.
    4. The fact he claims to be an IS soldier on a suicide mission.

    Do you have anything else to support why he would attack just Chinese people or maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    All the evidence points towards someone who was self radicalised and used Islam as the motive for his attack.

    Your attempt to excuse the attack is contrary to the evidence and as distasteful as the anti muslim brigade of TSR who relish ethe opportunity to post any incident so they can congratulate each other with their xenophobic and anti muslim agenda.
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    This video says it all about what's happening:
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    To be clear, its not 20 people, it's only 4 that were injured.
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    (Original post by Casserole)
    There has been gross misreporting on this news story. 20 haven't been injured, it's 4. 4 ethnic Chinese from Hong Kong on holiday in Germany. The others were treated for shock. Which is nothing compared to the massive life threatening wounds by an axe. According to an eyewitness, the father and boyfriend of his daughter suffered more extensive injuries, as they fought to protect the mother and his girlfriend.

    Note no other people were injured. Only the Chinese. Which suggests a racial motive, as terrorists seek maximum casualties.

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    phew, thats ok then, just some terrified chinese. thank **** for that, islam in the clear once again
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    (Original post by oShahpo)
    To be clear, its not 20 people, it's only 4 that were injured.
    Thats becayse the OP thinks its better to pretend it is 20. You can bet if it was in fact 60 then they would have updated it by now.
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    (Original post by Reformed)
    phew, thats ok then, just some terrified chinese. thank **** for that, islam in the clear once again

    You what? Some terrified Chinese??? How on earth did you misinterpret what I just said? The western news media are focusing more on the Islam v West narrative, sidelining the Chinese who have LIFE THREATENING injuries. Not just "terrified"


    Eyewitnesses said Riyad swung the axe into the stomach of one of his victims in a bid to disembowel him after going into the bathroom and arming himself.

    According to the local newspaper in Ochsenfurt it was the 31-year-old boyfriend of the Hong Kong victims' daughter who was most gravely injured as he slashed at passenger's bodies and heads
    Disembowelling, beheading. His gripes are with Germany yet he attacks a Hong Kong family.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    You see I was with you for the first part, but you faield to mention.


    Your attempt to excuse the attack is contrary to the evidence and as distasteful as the anti muslim brigade of TSR who relish ethe opportunity to post any incident so they can congratulate each other with their xenophobic and anti muslim agenda.

    Christ, not another one.

    I'm not disagreeing with anything the stories portray - he is a Muslim terrorist. But the news are completely sidelining the fact that he JUST attacked the Chinese family. Even though his grudge was with the West, and as any terrorist does, their objective is to inflict maximum casualties.
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    (Original post by Casserole)
    There has been gross misreporting on this news story. 20 haven't been injured
    (Original post by oShahpo)
    To be clear, its not 20 people, it's only 4 that were injured.
    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Thats becayse the OP thinks its better to pretend it is 20. You can bet if it was in fact 60 then they would have updated it by now.
    For a good hour and a half after the news broke all the newspapers were reporting 'at least 20'. I merely copied what they had written in the title. And I also don't know how to change the title of a thread, if it is even possible.
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    For a good hour and a half after the news broke all the newspapers were reporting 'at least 20'. I merely copied what they had written in the title. And I also don't know how to change the title of a thread, if it is even possible.
    Ypu could have asked a mod. You even edited it this morning at 8 when all the news channels were reporting 4, but you chose to stick with 21. Your excuse is lame.
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    (Original post by Casserole)
    Christ, not another one.

    I'm not disagreeing with anything the stories portray - he is a Muslim terrorist. But the news are completely sidelining the fact that he JUST attacked the Chinese family. Even though his grudge was with the West, and as any terrorist does, their objective is to inflict maximum casualties.
    Unless you have any evidence or can link to a credible source as to why the chinese family were so unfortunate to be attacked first other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then you dont have anything to back up yout conspiracy version.

    He is a 17 year old boy with an axe, perhaps its not as easy to commit mass murder with one if the people fight back as appeared to be the case here. 17 year old refugees arent explosive experts. You are giving him knowledge and aptitudes he may well not have had. It may be as much as he could have handled to kill 4 people at a time. I dont know how many people you think he should have been attempting to kill at once?

    If at some stage new information becomes available that says he wanted to attack this family and no other or that he knew them, then feel free to link it as that would be material.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Ypu could have asked a mod. You even edited it this morning at 8 when all the news channels were reporting 4, but you chose to stick with 21. Your excuse is lame.
    Edit 5 says that only 4 people were injured. I kept the sequence of edits in so that people could see how the news story developed over time. What kind of motive do you think I have for having an incorrect title?
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    Edit 5 says that only 4 people were injured. I kept the sequence of edits in so that people could see how the news story developed over time. What kind of motive do you think I have for having an incorrect title?
    Clearly its miding and you have made no attempt to correct it or ask a mod, so you seem quite content. 20 injured makes a bigger impact than 4, which the anti muslim brigade can then swoon over.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Clearly its miding and you have made no attempt to correct it or ask a mod, so you seem quite content. 20 injured makes a bigger impact than 4, which the anti muslim brigade can then swoon over.
    And you think I'm a part of the anti-Muslim brigade? If you dig deep enough into my posts, you will see that I am not. Those who are, however, will jump on any thread on this topic regardless whether the number is 20 or 4.

    But seeing how concerned you are over this, I'll ask a mod to change it. Just for you.
 
 
 
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