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    (Original post by Luke Kostanjsek)
    If you honestly can't answer a question, admit it. Don't talk **** and pretend it justifies your opinion:

    Treaty of Versailles - Wasn't passed by Nazis so has no bearing on how right wing or otherwise the Nazis were. Did indeed lead to a rise in nationalist sentiments, but seeing as nationalist sentiment is hardly exclusive to the far right, it's just as pervasive amongst the far left and even more moderate groups, that doesn't really prove anything.

    Fear of Communism - We feared the spread of communism in Britain, as evidenced by the cold war, but we had plenty of Labour administrations over that duration. Fear of communism =/= Far right.

    Economic issues in Germany - Did indeed lead to a rise in nationalist sentiments (though I'd suggest that the occupation of the Ruhr was more responsible for this than the Wall Street Crash) though again, doesn't by any means imply that the Nazis must have been far right. In fact, the Nazi economic policies of the 1930s featured a huge amount of state intervention, most notably through mass infrastructure projects, nationalisation and the curbing of a free market, which are fairly left wing policies. Note especially the similarity to Stalin's desire for state control of the 'commanding heights' of the Soviet economy.

    Social issues in Germany - Again, you seem to be suggesting that because the Nazis rose to power on a wave of nationalist sentiments, they must be far right. As someone previously mentioned, the SNP are an example of a left wing party who very recently have gained power on the back of nationalist sentiments, so your reasoning is flawed. And if we consider actual Nazi social policies, again we see plenty of left wing ideology shining through. The 'Strength through Joy' and 'Beauty of Labour' campaigns were undeniably left wing, and the Nazi policies on healthcare, education, maternity and pensions were also fairly left leaning.

    Isolationism in Europe - The Nazis hardly followed an isolationist foreign policy; they were positively expansionist! And neither isolationist nor expansionist foreign policies are inherently right wing; China and North Korea/Russia respectively refute any such suggestion.

    To suggest that Nazis are right wing or left wing is a gross oversimplification. The original Nazi party espoused views from all over the political spectrum. It was only following the Night of the Long Knives that we begin to see a turn towards the political right, and even then there are still more than a handful of socialist policies. What you should really infer from all this, is that ironically the far left and far right actually share a huge amount of common ground. I would suggest the far right is closer to the far left than the moderate right, and vice versa.
    You've obviously stumbled halfway into a conversation with no contextual knowledge. I was giving reasons as to why the Nazis emerged as a prominent right wing party in Germany.
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    Islamophobia and racism aren't as different as people here are making them out to be. If a person is attacked because they're an Asian wearing cultural clothing and the attacker assumed that the individual is a radical Muslim who is a terroristic threat then that is racism. You are assuming that they are bad people and associating them with radicals purely because of their appearance.

    As of the child, the attack was appalling. And don't be so pedantic about the wording. The spectators are just as bad because they encouraged the behaviour.
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    What the **** did I just read?
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    **** like this makes my blood boil like wtfff.

    20 Right wing men rub fake poo on a four-year-old Muslim, Asian girl’s face outside a pub in a racism attack,
    They were targeted because they were wearing headscarves and Asian clothes.

    http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/19/men-ru...ttack-6015714/
    Disgusting, racist behaviour. But I hope your blood boiled as much after the Nice attack, the Paris attacks, the Orlando attack, the San Bernadino attack and the Boston bombings.
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    What are you talking about? No one is talking about the niqab/face veil. They are talking about the headscarf - the one that covers the hair only.
    Still Outlaw it
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    (Original post by MyBloodisBlue)
    Still Outlaw it
    Why outlaw the headscarf?
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    :lolwut:
    By attacking a little girl?!!

    You sound like the people that support police killings because it's 'fighting back'
    no he just sounds like the type of person to attack little girls
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I wasn't comparing crimes I was making an analogy. In both cases, those who encouraged the crime are complicit.
    One man murders, the rest panic and scream - caught up in the moment, if you didn't want to be murdered, in shock... Would you try to stop him and risk becoming another victim or blend into the crowd for your own safety?
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Why outlaw the headscarf?
    yes it's not western clothing
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    (Original post by MyBloodisBlue)
    yes it's not western clothing
    Lol, what? I'm sure British people wear Asian clothing when they go to Asia and African clothing when they go to Africa. :rolleyes:

    People can wear whatever they want. See, we have this small thing called 'freedom' which allows people to do just that.
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    OP is a rightophobe?
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    (Original post by Legendary Quest)
    Lol, what? I'm sure British people wear Asian clothing when they go to Asia and African clothing when they go to Africa. :rolleyes:

    People can wear whatever they want. See, we have this small thing called 'freedom' which allows people to do just that.
    If they are living permanantly in our country, yes make them wear western clothing and knock down all mosques, Islam is not a western religion, this measures will make us a more cohesive country, If they are on Holiday, thats a different country but im pretty much a strong patriot who hates immigration and everything it brings
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Did I not admit that the attack was bad? However, the fact that people on this forum go the "Muh racists are worse than islamists" often, I thought I would point that out before anybody went on about how the right is evil.
    But the exact same thing happened with the BLM threads.
    Similar revenge attacks were carried out by disgruntled individuals, not to the same extent as this attack, but it's the same sentiment.
    (Though very violent revenge attacks have been carried out by extremist right wing in the past)

    Anyway the point is, people who I can only assume are 'right wing' were quick to paint the movement as some organised terrorist organisation out to kill all whites and how the left is evil and hateful.
    Both sides are excatly the same. Let's not act like it's only one side that does this.
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    But the exact same thing happened with the BLM threads.
    Similar revenge attacks were carried out by disgruntled individuals, not to the same extent as this attack, but it's the same sentiment.
    (Though very violent revenge attacks have been carried out by extremist right wing in the past)

    Anyway the point is, people who I can only assume are 'right wing' were quick to paint the movement as some organised terrorist organisation out to kill all whites and how the left is evil and hateful.
    Both sides are excatly the same. Let's not act like it's only one side that does this.
    I'm not, it is just that on this particular occasion it would be the left doing this.
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    (Original post by MyBloodisBlue)
    If they are living permanantly in our country, yes make them wear western clothing and knock down all mosques, Islam is not a western religion, this measures will make us a more cohesive country, If they are on Holiday, thats a different country but im pretty much a strong patriot who hates immigration and everything it brings
    Say that to all the British people living in Dubai.
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    (Original post by swiss_cheese)
    You've obviously stumbled halfway into a conversation with no contextual knowledge. I was giving reasons as to why the Nazis emerged as a prominent right wing party in Germany.
    I actually followed the conversation; the guy you were talking to was contesting the notion that the Nazi party was 'far right'. He asked for evidence of their 'right wing'-ness, to which you replied with the comment that I quoted. That comment contained absolutely no evidence of a far right ideology, which was why I pulled it up.
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    Ffs this is not the time to argue over the hijab, nor indulge in pointless whataboutery, nor debate what is "far right" and what is not. Could we just focus on the actual crime here please and address the issues.

    This was an appalling and, according to reports, racially motivated attack that no self-respecting human being, let alone a four year old, should have to face in this country. I hope she's all right now.
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    (Original post by Luke Kostanjsek)
    I actually followed the conversation; the guy you were talking to was contesting the notion that the Nazi party was 'far right'. He asked for evidence of their 'right wing'-ness, to which you replied with the comment that I quoted. That comment contained absolutely no evidence of a far right ideology, which was why I pulled it up.
    Not sure why anyone needs to be told how the Nazis are right wing. They massacred non-German races, they had an aggressive foreign policy and militaristic agenda. My original post was explaining why the right wing Nazi party emerged during the time, obviously the other person didn't communicate clearly enough
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    But wait... how do you know they were right wing? I didn't see the article include that. I don't know what right wing or left wing or what side you're on politically has to do with the crime the men did...
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    (Original post by MyBloodisBlue)
    If they are living permanantly in our country, yes make them wear western clothing and knock down all mosques, Islam is not a western religion, this measures will make us a more cohesive country, If they are on Holiday, thats a different country but im pretty much a strong patriot who hates immigration and everything it brings
    Including the help it brings to your economy? 🤔
    Including immigration from other western countries and countries with similar values to the west? 🤔
 
 
 
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