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    (Original post by KT942)
    I'd rather not go into the specifics because I know a lot of lse students frequent TSR but its a quant degree
    I knew about LSE's problems and wrote about it on this forum but some of the bigwigs on this forum with larger fan following than Preeti Patel brushed me off and called me all sorts of names. When I touched on the standard of teaching and the poor spoken English of many of the lecturers, people called me racist.

    Thank you for sharing. It was very brave of you. Please do share more to expose the nonsense that happens at LSE.
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    The only "problems" you spoke about was the level of the lecturer's English. It's funny because I distinctly remember you trying to rank the London unis for Law based on one recording of one lecture in one of their modules. I think that your nonsense is the exact reason why people take comments like yours' with a pinch of salt.
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    Is there much/any interracial dating at the LSE in terms of white guys - asian girls?


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    please can you tell me if UCL is also the same as LSE or is it is better in terms of socialising as well as studying?
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    The only "problems" you spoke about was the level of the lecturer's English. It's funny because I distinctly remember you trying to rank the London unis for Law based on one recording of one lecture in one of their modules. I think that your nonsense is the exact reason why people take comments like yours' with a pinch of salt.
    John, you are so yesterday. You're only jumping on the bandwagon now cos the OP got some 31 reps and this thread is picking up fast. Grow a spine, be original and make a change on this forum. If you cannot contribute positively then please go find a nice corner to polish all of your gem reps. Ok?
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    (Original post by Audrey18)
    John, you are so yesterday. You're only jumping on the bandwagon now cos the OP got some 31 reps and this thread is picking up fast. Grow a spine, be original and make a change on this forum. If you cannot contribute positively then please go find a nice corner to polish all of your gem reps. Ok?
    Actually, I was reading and replying here since OP posted. On the other hand, you're the one who was oh so happy to see someone take a shot at one of the London universities you don't like for some reason. It's awfully ironic of you to say that I'm joining the bandwagon when you're doing the exact same thing.

    (At least you've stopped copy-pasting your answers, at least that's something, right?)
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    (Original post by ddddvd)
    please can you tell me if UCL is also the same as LSE or is it is better in terms of socialising as well as studying?
    A UCL recruiter came to my Summer school and when asked "why is student satisfaction so low" he said "some may argue that London universities may not treat their students as well as other universities" as an answer, shocking to say the least, but probably very honest. If student satisfaction is a big thing to you there are lots of other great universities around the country which you could apply to instead.

    I don't think you should take my anecdote, or the person who started this thread's, to heart. Lots of people go to LSE and UCL and have a great time, you could have a good time too.
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    (Original post by rolaah)
    I don't think it's fair to criticise those I know and say they did uni wrong, but I respect that not all people are going to think the same way about their uni experience. But honestly said, I have never heard anyone who has had anything nice to say about LSE. It's been overwhelmingly negative in comparison to what I've heard from other unis, and the complaints are always the same.
    I loved it there. I know two people that went on to PhD's at top US unis. I know people who went to hedge funds. I know people that went to work for the government. I know people that studied like mad. I know people that partied like mad.

    At the end of the day, the following points have a key impact on all this debate:

    1. English - I had one lecturer there whose English was not perfect, but it was a small class and he was happy to discuss. The real problem are classes, which are not done by lecturers (usually) but postgrads. I got largely lucky on these ones again, too, but even if not, LSE is full of people that like to complain but not do anything. If you have trouble understanding, make them repeat it, make them speak slower. And in the end, you can always go to office hours - one of the most woefully underused aspects.

    2. London - I guarantee you if LSE were on some campus somewhere outside London, it would get a lot better reviews.

    All the rest is ******** and up to you. As I said, you wanna study, there will be people you can study with. You wanna party, you will find people. You want to join many societies, there are cool ones, and there is the entire UoL to explore. It is what you make of it, except point 2. above makes it a lot easier to make something of it.
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    (Original post by Asurat)
    A UCL recruiter came to my Summer school and when asked "why is student satisfaction so low" he said "some may argue that London universities may not treat their students as well as other universities" as an answer
    Wow - did he expand more on that?
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    On the point about Chinese people being 'cliquey' though, I would just like to remind the OP that if you study in China (like I did) the exact same thing happens with westerners - they stick to groups and have little interest in making Chinese friends.

    Now, I know you can't quite draw direct comparisons but I feel that in the case of studying in China, it's even slightly worse. Westerners there don't even need to understand Chinese to go to their lectures and the cultural gap in a sense doesn't really matter - it doesn't affect them so much if they don't make Chinese friends or don't learn anything since studying there is very cheap and often subsidised (sometimes free altogether). Common study destinations like Beijing and Shanghai are so westernised now that living a western nightlife there is totally possible and many do.

    For Chinese students however things are different and living a Chinese life here is not easy. Also, the pressure and onus on them to learn something different abroad is very real. However, there's obviously a cultural problem for Chinese students in the UK in that they find it hard to fit in. I can totally understand why they become so-called 'cliquey'. If you try to speak their language they are surprisingly much more open to you.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    I loved it there. I know two people that went on to PhD's at top US unis. I know people who went to hedge funds. I know people that went to work for the government. I know people that studied like mad. I know people that partied like mad.

    At the end of the day, the following points have a key impact on all this debate:

    1. English - I had one lecturer there whose English was not perfect, but it was a small class and he was happy to discuss. The real problem are classes, which are not done by lecturers (usually) but postgrads. I got largely lucky on these ones again, too, but even if not, LSE is full of people that like to complain but not do anything. If you have trouble understanding, make them repeat it, make them speak slower. And in the end, you can always go to office hours - one of the most woefully underused aspects.

    2. London - I guarantee you if LSE were on some campus somewhere outside London, it would get a lot better reviews.

    All the rest is ******** and up to you. As I said, you wanna study, there will be people you can study with. You wanna party, you will find people. You want to join many societies, there are cool ones, and there is the entire UoL to explore. It is what you make of it, except point 2. above makes it a lot easier to make something of it.
    I NEVER accused LSE of being poor academically - it's clearly one of the best unis in the world. But my issue lies with everything else - the way the campus and socials are set up, it's almost impossible to get to know people and make friends. It's very cliquey and people honestly don't have as much fun as other London unis.
    Yes, they could just hang out with people from UoL but if you're in an LSE hall (God forbid) then that's a lot harder to do. LSE halls are DEAD from what I've heard and it certianly does not have the reputation of a party school.
    As I said, it's fantastic academically but pathetic socially. Of all the unis to go to it's not number one by any means.
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    (Original post by rolaah)
    I NEVER accused LSE of being poor academically - it's clearly one of the best unis in the world. But my issue lies with everything else - the way the campus and socials are set up, it's almost impossible to get to know people and make friends. It's very cliquey and people honestly don't have as much fun as other London unis.
    Yes, they could just hang out with people from UoL but if you're in an LSE hall (God forbid) then that's a lot harder to do. LSE halls are DEAD from what I've heard and it certianly does not have the reputation of a party school.
    As I said, it's fantastic academically but pathetic socially. Of all the unis to go to it's not number one by any means.
    I have heard that people who have heard things don't know jack ****.

    On a serious note, that would be a reflection of the type of student attending. Does that mean everyone is like that? Well maybe you can hear something about that again.

    It sounds to me a lot more like these people dissing it are socially awkward and think a campus uni with a party atmosphere would have enabled them more. Could have joined in without any initiative on their part. If you now read my previous post, that is more or less what I wrote.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    I have heard that people who have heard things don't know jack ****.

    On a serious note, that would be a reflection of the type of student attending. Does that mean everyone is like that? Well maybe you can hear something about that again.

    It sounds to me a lot more like these people dissing it are socially awkward and think a campus uni with a party atmosphere would have enabled them more. Could have joined in without any initiative on their part. If you now read my previous post, that is more or less what I wrote.
    Seriously go **** yourself. I know many people there as I AM FROM LONDON - a family friend went to LSE and graduated recently, some people I knew in the year above who I kept in contact with, and my sister's best friend, who I also know incredibly well, is a current student and all of them can't stop talking about how **** it is for multiple reasons:
    1. No community
    2. Full of people who take academics so seriously that it doesn't become enjoyable
    3. Too small
    4. Professors who spoke poor English (yes your comment too)
    5. Cliqueness
    6. Bad societies

    These seem very familiar to the OP's complaints... literally all I said at the very beginning was that this only confirms once again what I have already been told about LSE.

    Also go **** yourself again - seriously. You're basically saying the people I know are socially awkward and thus have a **** time and it's all their fault. NOT TRUE. They are incredibly sociable, not awkward in the slightest and super nice. They were led to believe this uni would be somewhat fun, yes they had heard the negative things but went regardless as it was part of UoL and thought in the worst case scenario they could hang out with others - which proved to be much harder said than done.

    I would add point 7 to this list of complaints - you go there. Definitely not applying now.
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    (Original post by rolaah)
    Seriously go **** yourself. I know many people there as I AM FROM LONDON - a family friend went to LSE and graduated recently, some people I knew in the year above who I kept in contact with, and my sister's best friend, who I also know incredibly well, is a current student and all of them can't stop talking about how **** it is for multiple reasons:
    1. No community
    2. Full of people who take academics so seriously that it doesn't become enjoyable
    3. Too small
    4. Professors who spoke poor English (yes your comment too)
    5. Cliqueness
    6. Bad societies

    These seem very familiar to the OP's complaints... literally all I said at the very beginning was that this only confirms once again what I have already been told about LSE.

    Also go **** yourself again - seriously. You're basically saying the people I know are socially awkward and thus have a **** time and it's all their fault. NOT TRUE. They are incredibly sociable, not awkward in the slightest and super nice. They were led to believe this uni would be somewhat fun, yes they had heard the negative things but went regardless as it was part of UoL and thought in the worst case scenario they could hang out with others - which proved to be much harder said than done.

    I would add point 7 to this list of complaints - you go there. Definitely not applying now.
    I am not going there...
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    (Original post by rolaah)
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    Someone's quite upset.
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    (Original post by KT942)
    I'm going to have to disagree with you. I think that the Fabians would be turning in the graves if they could see what the LSE has become. It hasn't improved social mobility or offered working/ middle class students the opportunity to make UK society equal at all. Instead, it has become a place where the international elite descend upon to fuel their capitalistic dreams. The LSE is nothing more than a brand. Unfortunately, the vast majority only attend the school to realise their ambition of becoming investment bankers instead of having a genuine interest in social science so yh I don't think the Fabians would be best pleased.
    Your points all ring true. The LSE is indeed, for the most part, full of international students with ridiculously wealthy parents who could afford their UK boarding school or international school education, as well as the extortionary international fees. If you look at the home students at LSE, however, most of them are not the 'rah' type and come from a middle-class or lower background. True, most people attend the LSE just for the name on their degree certificate as that is a nice piece of paper to flaunt around Canary Wharf. Indeed, their lack of concern for the subjects they are studying (unless they are on Accounting & Finance or Management) and their disregard for the fascinating work of the LSE's research faculties is one of the most depressing things about the university and makes the campus environment much less enjoyable than it could be. Yet, the LSE, even if just by virtue of signalling and brand-name, allows those people to access high paid jobs in investment banking they wouldn't otherwise. Even if an admittedly small part of the LSE cohort is the demographic the Fabians were targeting, in a convoluted way, this is a sort of realisation of the Fabian aims. After all, had the LSE not been there they may well not have had the opportunities they got.

    I do agree with you that the focus of LSE admissions is now overwhelmingly on international fee-paying students for reasons no other than financial ones, and this clearly comes at the expense of academic considerations. Such tuition fee milking combined with cutting costs on education in many ways this means that the LSE often fails to realise its potential as the "world's best social science university" when it comes to undergraduate education. Yet, its research output remains world-leading and the opportunities it offers to motivated students are endless.

    Out of curiosity, what course are you on?
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    (Original post by KT942)
    The rare home students that you’ll meet are either ‘rahs’

    I'm still trying to work out what a 'rah' is. Do you just mean that they use slang? That's the only place I've heard that word before. Cause if so then I don't see why it's a big deal. They're obviously very intelligent in the study at LSE anyway.

    (Original post by inhuman)
    I am not going there...
    Of all the key points to comment on, you pick the most irrelevant thing and bail. I don't think where you go was the emphasis of his/her reply.
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    (Original post by philerus)
    Your points all ring true. The LSE is indeed, for the most part, full of international students with ridiculously wealthy parents who could afford their UK boarding school or international school education, as well as the extortionary international fees. If you look at the home students at LSE, however, most of them are not the 'rah' type and come from a middle-class or lower background. True, most people attend the LSE just for the name on their degree certificate as that is a nice piece of paper to flaunt around Canary Wharf. Indeed, their lack of concern for the subjects they are studying (unless they are on Accounting & Finance or Management) and their disregard for the fascinating work of the LSE's research faculties is one of the most depressing things about the university and makes the campus environment much less enjoyable than it could be. Yet, the LSE, even if just by virtue of signalling and brand-name, allows those people to access high paid jobs in investment banking they wouldn't otherwise. Even if an admittedly small part of the LSE cohort is the demographic the Fabians were targeting, in a convoluted way, this is a sort of realisation of the Fabian aims. After all, had the LSE not been there they may well not have had the opportunities they got.

    I do agree with you that the focus of LSE admissions is now overwhelmingly on international fee-paying students for reasons no other than financial ones, and this clearly comes at the expense of academic considerations. Such tuition fee milking combined with cutting costs on education in many ways this means that the LSE often fails to realise its potential as the "world's best social science university" when it comes to undergraduate education. Yet, its research output remains world-leading and the opportunities it offers to motivated students are endless.

    Out of curiosity, what course are you on?
    If you are in the economics department, have you had a chat with Judith about this?
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    [QUOTE=lucabrasi98;67317392]I'm still trying to work out what a 'rah' is. Do you just mean that they use slang? That's the only place I've heard that word before. Cause if so then I don't see why it's a big deal. They're obviously very intelligent in the study at LSE anyway.]

    A 'rah' is a pejorative slang term for someone who is very stereotypical of someone who went to a posh private school (usually a British one), and who is generally a bit obnoxious about it. A bit of a stereotype in itself, but it does ring true sometimes.
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    Guys, seriously, this is why most people steer clear of posting their experiences at top universities because it usually ends up with people who have never attended the uni having a back and forth. I have continuously made it clear throughout this thread that it takes a certain type to enjoy lse. If you’re that ‘type’ then great! You will most definitely enjoy your uni experience at lse. Even if you’re not that ‘type’ you may still enjoy your experience-I’m sure there are lse undergrads who love their time at the uni. I just wanted to share my own experience with you guys and really shed some light on how people who believe that LSE is the holy grail to investment banking are completely wrong.

    The whole point of this thread was to advise prospective students. If you visit a uni like warwick, Nottingham, durham etc and love it but still decide to pick lse SOLELY based on the reason that it will get you into investment banking then you’re making a huge mistake. I have said it again and again on this thread: uni is just a stepping stone; the onus is on the individual. So if you’re after a campus based, pretty university with a community feel to it, lse is not for you (and trust me it’s better to acknowledge this now rather than a year into your course like moi)

    Like a previous poster mentioned, I was expecting this thread to be full of questions which had substance to them such as what other unis were on the internship, the workload at lse, the lecturers, the careers service etc. but instead its turned into a thread full of people asking me which uni is best for socialising. And in answer to that question, if you truly want to socialise and get ‘blind drunk’ no London uni is for you. London isn’t a student friendly city hence the reason why most London unis have the lowest student satisfaction scores. Much like London itself, the unis in London are fast paced, very career orientated, expensive and have a largely international student body (again some people will thrive in this environment whereas others will hate it)

    Asides from that, all the LSE students who are starting in September and those of you who are prospective students, best of luck, I genuinely hope your lse experience is better than mine.
 
 
 
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