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    (Original post by slaven)
    If the UK was ruled by a multikulturalist back than it wozld have fallen in few month
    By back then do you mean WW2? When the Deputy Prime Minister was the socialist Clement Attlee who welcomed immigration whilst being a war veteran and NATO founder?

    WW2 was won by heroes, not bigots. They lost.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    South Africa isn't a 'hopeless abysmal failure'. :confused:
    Only because there are still enough whites there to keep the country afloat. They're gradually being killed or if their lucky leaving though, and South Africa will turn into yet another Zimbabwe, maybe even worse since South African blacks are particularly violent.
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    Only because there are still enough whites there to keep the country afloat. They're gradually being killed or if their lucky leaving though, and South Africa will turn into yet another Zimbabwe, maybe even worse since South African blacks are particularly violent.
    Nonsense. S.Africa has gone from strength to strength since the fall of apartheid.
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    We have always been divided into the categories white and poc, of course white will appear grossly outnumbered against us, because they are being compared to every non white identifying group, which understandably is comprised of the majority of the global population....

    Instead of all this otherness, maybe we could just all identify as human. It is no surprise that as members of a species that inhabits majority hot, sunny regions, that higher levels of melanin are becoming a more common/ selected for trait. I guess if y'all wanted to preserve the white population, you should slow down global warming, destroy international transport systems, and go back to the dark ages before we had basic humanity, compassion, and the intelligence to rise above the notion that the colour of someone's skin should be seen as a threat to your very existence.

    And then there's the fetishisation of certain groups - funny how everyone wants 'cute mixed babies' but want to preserve their own 'race', you should all be questioning why the 'lightskin' for example, is the desirable partner or child before blaming us for existing...
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Nonsense. S.Africa has gone from strength to strength since the fall of apartheid.
    How brainwashed can you be?

    When apartheid ended, the life expectancy in South Africa was 64 — the same as in Turkey and Russia. Now it’s 56, the same as in Somalia. There are 132.4 rapes per 100,000 people per year, which is by far the highest in the world and from what I've heard is an understatement of the reality. If you are a black woman in South Africa, you will be raped before your teens, probably by your father or brother. If you think I'm lying look it up, this is the reality of your wonderful diverse "rainbow nation".

    70,000 whites have been killed by blacks since apartheid and according to the human-rights organisation Genocide Watch, South Africa is at pre-genocide stage 6 of 8: “Preparation.”. There is a reason why most white south Africans are trying to leave.

    South Africa is one of if not the most violent place you could be outside a warzone.
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    How brainwashed can you be?

    When apartheid ended, the life expectancy in South Africa was 64 — the same as in Turkey and Russia. Now it’s 56, the same as in Somalia. There are 132.4 rapes per 100,000 people per year, which is by far the highest in the world and from what I've heard is an understatement of the reality. If you are a black woman in South Africa, you will be raped before your teens, probably by your father or brother. If you think I'm lying look it up, this is the reality of your wonderful diverse "rainbow nation".

    70,000 whites have been killed by blacks since apartheid and according to the human-rights organisation Genocide Watch, South Africa is at pre-genocide stage 6 of 8: “Preparation.”. There is a reason why most white south Africans are trying to leave.

    South Africa is one of if not the most violent place you could be outside a warzone.
    Let's avoid the name-calling.

    The life expectancy figure is different based on the source, it's rising and is expected to continue to do so.

    SA is not a 'wonderfully diverse rainbow nation'. Isn't it is less diverse than the UK today?

    Rape statistics as you yourself have suggested are tricky things. It is likely that this disgusting culture of abuse went on long before the end of apartheid. Of course only after could black women could actually come forward in the hope of getting convictions.

    You also appear to have missed my post 89.
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    Only by changing definitions of things to fit your view can you be correct. European people are white. Non-whites in Europe are Indian, African, Asian etc.
    Setting aside all other issues for the moment, where does 'European-ness' and 'whiteness' end then, according to you? Are the Balkan peoples white? Greeks? Bulgarians? Turks? And what about the Caucasian frontier - are Chechens white? Georgians? Armenians? Azeris? Ossetians?
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    according to the human-rights organisation Genocide Watch, South Africa is at pre-genocide stage 6 of 8: “Preparation.”
    Aside from the questionable methodology of Genocide Watch (they take a very broad definition of genocide, and lump together), their most recent reports actually include 10 stages, not 8. While South Africa is listed at 6, that stage is actually called "Polarisation" - "Preparation" is stage 7. In the 2012 report, where an 8-stage model was used, South Africa was listed at stage 5 (also then called Polarisation), not 6.

    Also worth noting that Peoples Under Threat, another human rights NGO focusing on genocide, which GW itself provides as a reference on its site, doesn't consider South Africa even worthy of ranking (it only ranks those countries where it considers there is a people or peoples under threat).
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Rapid Chinese industrialisation was a result of communist governance. Like in the USSR.
    Chinese economic growth took off after the death of Mao, when Deng Xiaoping opened China to foreign investments. Multinational compagnies could then used the immense servile Chinese labour to make massive competitive gains. I wouldn't say that China was still a communist country at this time.
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    (Original post by ZoëC)
    We have always been divided into the categories white and poc, of course white will appear grossly outnumbered against us, because they are being compared to every non white identifying group, which understandably is comprised of the majority of the global population....
    Which ever way you spin it, Black africans, South Asians, East Asians, even Chinese people alone outnumber whites as individual groups :lol:
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    (Original post by slaven)
    So? The debate is important. It seems Guardian was warning that in 2016 London will not have a British majority.
    Then that's just misleading. Even now California is still in reality 72.9% white. Excluding "Hispanic whites" is literally saying Spanish and Portuguese people in Europe are not white, and the practice would be equivalent to saying Europe has a very tiny white population because only a small part of it speak English as their first language and are not mixed into other races.

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    Also homogenous nation have more trust among people which is good for the economy. This is one of reasons why is Japan and China developing while EU stagnating and its citizens live more miserably than 30 years ago.
    Japan has not been developing in any way for years.

    It's pure ignorance to label China as a one-race nation. Putting aside the existence of recognized minorities, you cannot seriously believe groups that speak their own languages, have their own cuisines, have their own religious practices, beliefs, and traditions are all really the same "homogenous" Han Chinese ethnic group just like "white English" is.
    (Original post by slaven)
    I have not been in Japan but I need only to check the internet to see that Japan has no islamic terror attack, sharia patrols, rape gangs to come to conclusion that it has no social conflicts.
    Japan is such a perfect nation their population keeps committing suicide.
    (Original post by Crassy)
    it would turn into Mexico in a month.
    You do realize:
    1. Mexico and the US have identical crime rates;
    2. Mexico is 62% Amerindian-Spanish + c10% purely white?

    I mean, OK. They speak Spanish, not English; but that doesn't make them not white.

    The reality is, many Latin American countries are pretty white yet they are not better off because of that.
    (Original post by slaven)
    China will never become a immigration destiny.
    "Never" is a strong word to use especially considering the fact that for millennia China has been an immigration destination.
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    (Original post by ZoëC)
    We have always been divided into the categories white and poc, of course white will appear grossly outnumbered against us, because they are being compared to every non white identifying group, which understandably is comprised of the majority of the global population....
    Also, westerners now have the practice to exclude more and more people from being "white".

    They used to count Latinos as white, now they don't. Latinos are really just white people mixed with the natives. Anyone with a slight drop of blackness can be considered white but somehow to be white one must be 100% white.

    And now they excluded Hispanics. What are Hispanics? People who speak the language(s) from the Roman province of Hispania, ie Spanish and Portuguese. Now, they are somehow not white?

    The same in the UK. People like to talk about a white minority. Yet, the white minority senario could be created only when you count whites from Britain. Somehow white Germans, white Spaniards, white Irish, white French etc are no longer white because it doesn't fit with the narrative "white people are going extinct"""1!!"111!!!".
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Everyone grows old. And hopefully they'll have children which, combined with the increased state of technology, will be able to look after them.

    The UK will be in a much better relative state than Japan in 50 years time.
    You realize you basically said the answer to overpopulation and all the issues it brings, is a larger population....

    Words can not explain how bad your logic is, I suppose if someone is drowning he might as well chain a few more cinder blocks to his legs.
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    Black people have Africa and the Caribbean. I think you'll find that as a minority whites do very well, whether it's South Africa or Brazil having white people in your country is like having oil in your country. Meanwhile blacks are always the least successful and most criminal wherever they are.
    Not true

    There's a section on African immigrants

    African immigrants to the US and UK are considered model minorities.

    But of course lets just ignore that because it doesn't tie in with your biased narrative.
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    (Original post by RagingWhoreMoans)
    Upside: No more bratty leftists and obnoxious women

    Downside: No more civilisation, more crime, basically Brazil
    Yeah, sure, because umm... Before White people, there was no civilisation. Sure.

    Sure
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    I wouldn't say there is a conspiracy, I would say there is a political, cultural and economic will to do so. It is obvious to me. That has all immigration and "diversity" has ever been about.

    German is an ethnicity. The ethnicity was formed, then what ever that ethnicity did was considered "German culture". They didn't suddenly think "oh I like sausage and beer! So do I! Lets call ourselves German!", they formed out of tribal and family connections organically. They didn't found their "identity" arbitrarily, their identity is an extension of their culture and their culture is an extension of their original ethnic kinship. What you are saying is like your family suddenly came together and started using the same surname just because they all liked the same things. No. Germans could not possibly be anything other than white, and well....German, it does not make any sense.

    And I don't care about abstract notions of "Western culture" that are defined by whoever currently has power. "Western culture" used to be Beethoven and Christianity, now it's twerking, transexuals and McDonalds. This is not culture but a lack of culture. A lack of culture caused by people not caring about their ancestors and what they built.

    Whatever you say nothing will ever change the fact that literally no one is Japan is looking at Sweden or France and thinking "Wow we need some of that diversity!", where as there are plenty of people looking the other way around.
    Not really. The Swiss and the Austrians don't consider themselves Germans, not even the Bavarians who are in Germany.
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    (Original post by asmuse123)
    Not really. The Swiss and the Austrians don't consider themselves Germans, not even the Bavarians who are in Germany.
    Don't think many people would proudly consider themselves German, after Germany's rather colourful past lol
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    (Original post by Crassy)
    In India maybe, but there was nothing to ruin in Africa. Rhodesia and South Africa were once great countries...under black rule they have become hopeless abysmal failures.
    I'd say they were developing just fine before white people came in, butchered everyone and caused constant conflict and unrest. They then left so there's now black leaders dealing with the repercussions. It's only been around 20 years since the apartheid ended. In the 1960s their population was around 17mil. 3.5 million black people were removed from their homes and made to live in much worse areas. Did you expect the country to immediately enter a golden age when this all ended? Or are you baiting for responses? I can't tell anymore.

    I hate it when 40 year old daily mail regulars find a way onto TSR.
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    (Original post by remiremi)
    You realize you basically said the answer to overpopulation and all the issues it brings, is a larger population....

    Words can not explain how bad your logic is, I suppose if someone is drowning he might as well chain a few more cinder blocks to his legs.
    I didn't say that because our problem isn't overpopulation.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    Chinese economic growth took off after the death of Mao, when Deng Xiaoping opened China to foreign investments. Multinational compagnies could then used the immense servile Chinese labour to make massive competitive gains. I wouldn't say that China was still a communist country at this time.
    That's besides the point. My point is it's nothing to do with demographic homogeneity.
 
 
 
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