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    Left-Leaning Pro-Government Humanist ProgressiveCollectivism score: 17%
    Authoritarianism score: 17%
    Internationalism score: 0%
    Tribalism score: -50%
    Liberalism score: 50%

    I'm a what?
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    srsly tho I am no closer to understanding myself.
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    I got Left-leaning Pro-government Liberal. Just ****ing kill me please.
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    Left-Leaning Authoritarian Multilateralist Humanist Moderate
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    Interesting but dodge

    Socialist Pro-Government Multilateralist Cosmopolitan Traditionalist

    Collectivism score: 67%
    Authoritarianism score: 33%
    Internationalism score: 67%
    Tribalism score: -17%
    Liberalism score: -17%
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    Socialist Anti-Government Bleeding-Heart Progressive

    Collectivism: 50%
    Authoritarianism: -33%
    Internationalism: 0%
    Tribalism: -83%
    Liberalism: 67%

    Why am I not surprised hahahaha
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    Collectivism score: -100%Authoritarianism score: 0%Internationalism score: -67%Tribalism score: 100%Liberalism score: -100%
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    Socialist Anti-Government Multilateralist Humanist Progressive
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Primarily yes, but more generally divisive/retrograde institutions (including those of other faiths) should be reformed/closed

    My political philosophy is a little more nuanced than that i.e. Fourth Way pragmatic pluralism seeks to include a plurality of political views in discourse (excepting those that pose an existential threat to the very diversity of said system e.g. fascism/Islamism) and arrive at a consensus position on policy (which can indeed be sold on the basis of Benthamite calculus)

    Agreed. It’s when people get purist/militant about it that I have a problem, or when they ignore associated social ills or else fail to see why/how related policy could/should be reformed/reversed

    I understand, but you must understand that ‘third culture kids’ like yourself are the exception, not the norm – no matter how hard the Crony Capitalist powers that be attempt to dilute/disparage/denigrate/destroy the sense of place, heritage, ethno-cultural affinity, and related geographical, communitarian belonging/loyalties integral to the tribal/political identities of billions

    I did say like a coward, there could be other explanations (but it looks to the observer like ducking a question, which is of course typically an act of cowardice)

    Careful with the assumptions, my stated hierarchy is not set in stone, I remain something of a meritocratic/responsive to social/security and related philosophical dynamics

    For example, I see no sense in mass (particularly inter-civilisation) immigration when it fundamentally degrades the values (dignified progressivism), culture (Jesu-Christian in origin), customs (freedom of expression/presentation/fun/inclusivity), way of life (living life without fear/stifling political correctness), quality of life (net fiscal drain: £15,000,000,000 p.a.), and security (ISIS et al. domestic terror and insurgency through to lower level criminality and anti-social behaviour) of my:

    Immediate family > wider family > friends > neighbours > indigenous inhabitants of the same: settlement > county > region > nation > continent > civilisation

    Didn’t think it was a serious question :dontknow:

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    Does say ‘humanitarian’ in my spoiler, and I’d be surprised if someone with your demonstrated personal qualities genuinely mistook me for someone who could, plausibly, be such a grotesque human being:mute:

    Been busy at medical school, are you still interested in a reply?
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    "You are a: Socialist Anti-Government Humanist Libertine"

    Well, who would have guessed?
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    You are a: Socialist Pro-Government Cosmopolitan Liberal

    Collectivism score: 67%
    Authoritarianism score: 17%
    Internationalism score: 0%
    Tribalism score: -33%
    Liberalism score: 17%

    Socialist?????? I'm left leaning but wouldn't have said that

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    (Original post by dairychocolate)
    Been busy at medical school, are you still interested in a reply?
    If my post contained a question, then yes, otherwise, as you like :dontknow:
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    You are a: Left-Leaning Multilateralist Humanist Liberal

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    Internationalism score: 50%
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    You are a: Socialist Non-Interventionist Humanist Liberal

    Collectivism score: 67%
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    Tribalism score: -50%
    Liberalism score: 33%

    0% Authoritarianism... I'm proud
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Primarily yes, but more generally divisive/retrograde institutions (including those of other faiths) should be reformed/closed
    I agree with that.

    My political philosophy is a little more nuanced than that i.e. Fourth Way pragmatic pluralism seeks to include a plurality of political views in discourse (excepting those that pose an existential threat to the very diversity of said system e.g. fascism/Islamism) and arrive at a consensus position on policy (which can indeed be sold on the basis of Benthamite calculus)
    I also agree with that in a general sense.

    Agreed. It’s when people get purist/militant about it that I have a problem, or when they ignore associated social ills or else fail to see why/how related policy could/should be reformed/reversed
    Yes. Of course, at both 'ends' of the political spectrum, it's those that prioritise sticking to an ideology over swallowing their pride and making a case-by-case analysis of each situation that are the problem.

    I understand, but you must understand that ‘third culture kids’ like yourself are the exception, not the norm – no matter how hard the Crony Capitalist powers that be attempt to dilute/disparage/denigrate/destroy the sense of place, heritage, ethno-cultural affinity, and related geographical, communitarian belonging/loyalties integral to the tribal/political identities of billions
    I know that many/most would prioritise the welfare of one of 'their own' (generally refers to race) over, for example, me; I don't live on a cloud. It's not, however, an attitude that I try to emulate. As I mentioned in a previous comment, everyone has priority groups, but race/ancestry is one I typically avoid including in my list of priorities.

    Nonetheless, on a partially related note: as someone who is cynical by nature, when I feel ready to do so, I'll most likely be moving to a country/part of the world where I'm not (visibly, at least) a minority. I'm not fan of relying on people to 'tolerate' something I have no control over.

    I did say like a coward, there could be other explanations (but it looks to the observer like ducking a question, which is of course typically an act of cowardice)
    Yes, I provided the actual explanation. I find cowardice to be an odd conclusion to jump to on an anonymous board since, as I mentioned, I have nothing to lose here and just say what I think.

    Careful with the assumptions, my stated hierarchy is not set in stone, I remain something of a meritocratic/responsive to social/security and related philosophical dynamics
    I see. The strength of wording/formatting in your original comment indicated otherwise, hence why I brought it up.

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    I’d be surprised if someone with your demonstrated personal qualities genuinely mistook me for someone who could, plausibly, be such a grotesque human being:mute:



    I try not to take any level of decency for granted on anonymous online forums; apologies if that caused offence.
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    You are a: Left-Leaning Anarchist Isolationist Nationalist Liberal

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    (Original post by dairychocolate)
    it's those that prioritise sticking to an ideology over swallowing their pride and making a case-by-case analysis of each situation that are the problem
    Let's not forget the undue influence of special interests and/or party whips. It's one thing for a political representative to exercise expertise/conscience, or even ideological skew, but quite another for them to be bought and/or cajoled

    race/ancestry is one I typically avoid including in my list of priorities
    Likewise, but there's really no getting away from it, it's in our nature to notice commonality/difference, among other factors, and to discriminate accordingly. The ‘NWO’ powers that be have done their best to deny this, and to degrade related institutions that reflect this inalienable instinct (e.g. monoculturalism, intracultural relationships as the norm, patriotism, nationalism, authentic e.g. English/French/German national identity, culture, and ethos, nationhood itself (vs. no borders/one world BS paradigms), civilisational affinity and pride)

    I'm not fan of relying on people to 'tolerate' something I have no control over
    Completely understand, which is partly why I would never in a million years move to a place like the Middle East or Africa. That is a tension one does not need in ones life. The irony is that small numbers from compatible ethno-cultures are near enough ‘tolerable’ in virtually all scenarios; multiculturalism held promise, but it was extremely poorly (counter-productively) thought out, never mind implemented

    I find cowardice to be an odd conclusion to jump to on an anonymous board since, as I mentioned, I have nothing to lose here and just say what I think
    If you were posting anonymously I’d have more time for this view, but even then, in the absence of particular social scrutiny, we are at the mercy of our superego. Furthermore, saying what you think and electing to say everything you think are, of course, distinct propositions. You noticeably withheld (potentially contentious/self-defeating) information, that was directly requested of you; to the onlooker, in most such situations, that will often look anything between rather curious to really quite telling, I’m sure you will agree (and hardly need me to explain)

    The strength of wording/formatting in your original comment indicated otherwise
    One should always stay loyal to one’s background/people” means allegiance roughly in the order detailed, including, and centred upon, one’s immediate family/loved ones, and extending outward by proximity/commonality. One cannot reasonably infer from this that one is unwavering in ones tribal loyalty, but that tribal loyalty does reckon in related calculi. As an example, I am unlikely to display more loyalty to someone like Trump over a fellow British-Mexican, even if, in ‘tribal’ terms we may have more in common e.g. White, English speaking, with some Scottish roots. Hopefully this fully rectifies the false assumption

    I try not to take any level of decency for granted on anonymous online forums
    That’s not an attitude that will serve you well, and is tantamount to bigotry (assuming someone who adopts a contrary view is grotesque). One should always assume a basic level of humanity in people, irrespective of our personal pride and prejudice, in the absence of evidence to the contrary; hence, the legal precept of (assumed) innocent until proven guilty

    apologies if that caused offence
    Thank you, but no need for any apology, this is a matter for your conscience and development, and not one of personal offence (there is but one user of this forum who has the capacity to cause me genuine distress)
 
 
 
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