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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    That's just the tip of the iceberg, I think. The world is only just waking up, politicians in the west are still pro-Islam but the people are beginning to rise against Islamification and soon the politicians will have no choice but to take action. Meanwhile in places like Saudi Arabia, Islam is on the decline. It's estimated that about 40% of Saudis are atheists and they're rapidly growing in number. It won't be long now before they have enough numbers to challenge the Islamic theocracy and at that point the Islamic world will start to implode.
    I completely agree with you.

    I would rep you if I could.
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    (Original post by Indian_Muslim)
    There are Kashmiris in Pakistan occupied Kashmir that also do not want to be part of Pakistan.
    According to a survey by the Royal Institute of International Affairs also known as Chatham House 44% of Kashmiris in the Azad Kashmir part of PoK want Independence and 50% want to join Pakistan. Although Gilgit-Baltistan region was not surveyed.
    In Indian controlled Jammu and Kashmir 43% wanted independence and 28% wanted to accede India. Only 2% wanted to join Pakistan.
    Admittedly the number who want to join Pakistan in PoK is higher than the number in J&K who want to join India.



    India did not blame Pakistan, it blamed Jaish-e-Mohammad, a terrorist organisation operating in Pakistani occupied Kashmir. Jaish-e-Mohammad has been designated as a terrorist organisation by Australia, Canada, India, UAE, UK, United Nations and USA.
    By thinking that India blaming a terrorist organisation is the same as India blaming Pakistan means you see "terrorist organisation" and "Pakistan" to be the same thing. Congratulations on scoring such a spectacular own goal! :clap2: :rofl:

    Also the Indian National Investigation Agency caught two individuals from Pakistan occupied Kashmir who helped 4 Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorists to cross over the LoC.
    India's Ministry of External Affairs summoned Abdul Basit who is Pakistan's High Commissioner to India and handed over the proof. The foreign secretary said that India was ready to provide Pakistan with consular access to the arrested individuals.
    I am kashmiri and i have never met another kashmiri in my life that would prefer kashmir to be controlled by india, at the end of the day it is up to us and not india or pakistan.
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    :rofl: Perhaps you could get back to every debate which you never responded to whenever I have called out your ignorance :holmes:
    I'd love to if the threads weren't locked
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    (Original post by Saba XD)
    May I know where you got that percentage from? After reading your post, I tried to find it but I didn't get any results. If you can help me out with the source please.
    I got my figures wrong, it's 25% non religious in Saudi and ~40% in Lebanon.

    http://www.skeptical-science.com/rel...eenforced-ban/
    https://newrepublic.com/article/1215...-arab-atheists
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    (Original post by BasharAssad)
    I am kashmiri and i have never met another kashmiri in my life that would prefer kashmir to be controlled by india, at the end of the day it is up to us and not india or pakistan.
    I assume you are from Azad Kashmir and you've only ever met people from Azad Kashmir. In which case it's understandable that you've never met one who would prefer to be with India.
    That Chatham House survey said that only 1% of Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir would want to go with India.

    However you will certainly find some people from Indian administered Kashmir regardless of religion who want to be with India. I used to meet some in Mumbai and Delhi.
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    No more war! No more bloody war!! hehe
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    I got my figures wrong, it's 25% non religious in Saudi and ~40% in Lebanon.

    http://www.skeptical-science.com/rel...eenforced-ban/
    https://newrepublic.com/article/1215...-arab-atheists
    Ok, thank you. I'll have a look.
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    (Original post by Indian_Muslim)
    I assume you are from Azad Kashmir and you've only ever met people from Azad Kashmir. In which case it's understandable that you've never met one who would prefer to be with India.
    That Chatham House survey said that only 1% of Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir would want to go with India.

    However you will certainly find some people from Indian administered Kashmir regardless of religion who want to be with India. I used to meet some in Mumbai and Delhi.
    I agree, their are some who would prefer to remain with india and i respect that, however i believe that the majority of kashmiris would either want to join pakistan or be independant from both india and pakistan, for me personally it is the former. Sooner or later the people will rise up to indian oppression.
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    India would wipe the floor with Pakistan if it came down to it.
    Both countries have advanced nuclear missile technology. Pakistan has the edge on cruise missiles and India has a big conventional edge.

    I seriously cant believe the war wongering stance of Modi lovers. It is all over social media.

    You go any mainstream Pak newspaper and most analysts are writing for a peaceful solution.*
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Both countries have advanced nuclear missile technology. Pakistan has the edge on cruise missiles and India has a big conventional edge.

    I seriously cant believe the war wongering stance of Modi lovers. It is all over social media.

    You go any mainstream Pak newspaper and most analysts are writing for a peaceful solution.*
    Pakistan can't even defend themselves against UH-60 Black Hawks. They're way behind conventionally, plus they have a much much smaller population. Their nukes won't save them from India and its allies.
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    (Original post by TheBBQ)
    I'd love to if the threads weren't locked
    Some of them aren't locked :rolleyes:
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    My conclusion is that the best country between the two is the one with the most cricket wins vs the other.
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    (Original post by Ishax)
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    I'd rep all of your posts here if I could but I can't
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    1. God can never die. A religion is false/a person is a liar or misinformed if they claim God can be killed.

    2. Only Sikhs care about the death of the Gurus; the Hindu majority don't, so it bears absolutely no impact on the foreign policy of India.

    3. Events in 1984 were perpetrated by Hindus/Indian nationalists.
    The events in 1984 were perpetrated not by Hindu nationalists, BJP did not even exist back then, they were carried out by the leaders of The pseudo- liberal Congress party, RSS ( the Hindu nationalist Group that founded BJP later on) was only calling for calm and often opposing the Congress leaders( they were also opposing bhindranwala supporters).
    No wonder the akali hindu nationalist BJP is the party that has mostly been in power in sikh majority Punjab for the last 20 years, people hate Congress here and love BJP and modi, vajpayee, Advani sir, P.S badal
    Hindu nationalists( BJP, bajarang dal, RSS, vishwa hindu parishad,akhil bharti vidyarthi parishad ) had been calling for the perpetrators to be brough to justice and supported our cause however they could.


    The hindus have forgiven Bhindranwala supporters for killing them and have moved ahead and the sikh have anger against the Congress for what followed, not the common man or a party that didn't even exist then.
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    (Original post by TheBBQ)
    I'd rep all of your posts here if I could but I can't
    Thanks, you too 😉
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    Pakistanis are tired of inhumane treatment of kashmiris by indians and they dont want to lose kashmir to India like Hyderabad(Indian army invaded back in 47 there is an international court case on going) and Junagadh. Indian government is frustrated because of their armies incompetence of getting in rid of freedom movement leaders.They murdered Burhan Wani couple months ago (a freedom movement leader who joined the movement after one of his close relatives was murdered like many others who join the movement)So tensions since then have been high in India occupied Kashmir(IoK) protestors waving pakistani flags and anti India slogans are becoming a daily sight the Indian army has only fuelled the passion of the Kashmiris by using pellet guns and blinding hundreds and murdering anyone who they suspect of militancy.
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    Earlier this week Indian government claimed they have carried out surgical strikes at "terrorist launch pads" in azad kashmir however no evidence is available of such "strikes" and the claims have been rightfully rubbished by the pakistani army https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/paki...g-loc-unmogip/
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    Alright for those of you who think that i am being offensive, please understand where I'm coming from. A few years ago my 1st cousin came back home in a coffin, he was killed fighting Pak sponsored terrorists in Kashmir , so under such circumstances would you expect us to go and hug Pakistan ? when our people are dying due to Pakistani trained, funded , and backed terrorists

    so we are not morons who like to quarrel/ fight to death without a valid reason, i think we have a Very very very good one, thank you very much Islamic caliphate
    of Pakistan we would love to be your worst nightmare. I would love you to understand the pain i have gone ( if you by mistake do, then please stop sponsoring terror and creating havoc and trying to destabilize our country) through but i understand that this cannot be expected from heartless, Islamist Jihadi/Jihad sponsoring people with incredibly low morals and eithics with hugely illogically inflammated egos while having lost every war with India in the past ,
    i dont blame them because most of them in Pakistan have never been exposed to a decent curriculum in their entire lives, whether it be at the school level or University level unlike CBSE,ISC, IB or A level/igcse in every small city in India so i expect them to be quite unreasonable obviously if any of them have been then they are probably too commited to Their Jihad or Gazwa-e- Hind probably

    All we have ever wanted is Peace and JUSTICE FOR OUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF PAKISTAN SPONSORED TERRORISM, The perpetators( Jaise e muhammad, Lashkhar e tayba) of THE 1998 IC-814 hijackings, the 2001 Indian Parliament attacks, THE 26/11 2008 Mumbai attacks, Pathankot attacks 2016 and the most recent URI attacks to be brought to justice who, while i write this roam freely in Pakistan and are free men( Maulana masood azhar, Hafiz sayed)
    Ask the families of the victims what they have gone through or are going through


    Evertime they ask for evidence and say that that there is no proof while India gives all the proof that would be ever required, proof and reports worth thousands of pages to the Pakistani high commission in New Delhi yet they deny it the minute they recieve it without even looking at it.
    They dont need proof, they need Bullets, Artillery shells, Naval blockades by our aircraft carriers and airstrikes by our UAVs and Su30MKIs

    STOP SPONSORING TERROR
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    (Original post by AlvlVictim)
    Pakistanis are tired of inhumane treatment of kashmiris by indians and they dont want to lose kashmir to India like Hyderabad(Indian army invaded back in 47 there is an international court case on going) and Junagadh. Indian government is frustrated because of their armies incompetence of getting in rid of freedom movement leaders.They murdered Burhan Wani couple months ago (a freedom movement leader who joined the movement after one of his close relatives was murdered like many others who join the movement)So tensions since then have been high in India occupied Kashmir(IoK) protestors waving pakistani flags and anti India slogans are becoming a daily sight the Indian army has only fuelled the passion of the Kashmiris by using pellet guns and blinding hundreds and murdering anyone who they suspect of militancy.
    Burhan wani was not a freedom fighter
    He regularly threatened to kill the youth of his own Kashmir if they were to join the indian security forces, police or other government jobs in his videos.
    He was a commander of Hiz-bul-mujahedeen which is designated as a terrorist organisation by India, the European Union and the US
    Well people in India are tired of the inhumane treatment of the Baloch people and their leader Nawab Akbar Shahbaz Khan Bugti who was killed by the Pakistani military, he was blown up ( He was 80 years old god dammit) and also other human rights violations like rapes, killings and missing people. The reason they are so unheard of is because the media is so censored there and not even domestic media let alone International media is alllowed to report on it while International media can come in and go out of Kashmir as they please and domestic media reports on it aswell
    On 4 August 1947 Baluchistan was declared to be a independent country but was later invaded by Jinnah. It was never even part of British India.
    So these should be the last people in the world to lecture India on human rights, people who dont even give freedom to Non muslims to practice their religion, Islam being the state religion in this country
 
 
 
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