Will animals ever be granted right? Should they be?

Because we have the capacity to think and reason. We're clearly superior given our complete control of the planet, no other animal has ever managed anything even coming close to the kind of feats achieved by humans.

And wtf animals already have rights in Britain.

Then why test on them at all if they are so different?

I don't see them as having the same thinking capacities, but I don't think that excludes them from rights either.

Animals can think, some clearly can reason, show emotions, and some have very good memories. By evolutionary coincidence humans have come out on top (at the moment), and to be honest - the 'feats' achieved by humans? Look around, the world is a mess and would be better off if we were never here in the first place, probably.

I know nobody's going to change your opinion, so to quell my suspicion, what would you do if you were alone in a swimming pool with a shark? Would you kill it, or let it kill you?

why do you think they need rights? so they can carry on their days eating, sleeping and pooing as they wish?? Animals are not equal to human beings. They do not experience life as we do. They are probably not even conscious of life.

Humans have thought and morality and basic knowledge only through education. We're not born with the knowledge of the world or even basic fact. I know that animals aren't capable of morality or maybe grasping scientific facts but lack of knowledge doesn't mean you should just kill something.

yes but while we were finding fire they were still sleeping, eating, pooing as much as they still are today.

Here here. As funny as it is true. No one who agrees with this animal rights charter thing has offered an alternative to meat in Africa, how dogs would pay their mortgages, how skunk's visa's will be processed or how HH will be tried for BRUTALLY MURDERING the poor little defenseless shark (who was TOOTHLESS ANYWAY) in COLD BLOOD.

Well having swam with sharks in the Maldives I doubt it would even show me any interest, there is a common misconception that sharks want to eat humans. Humans simply aren't prey in the eyes of sharks and they only bite out of curiosity, the silhouette of a surfer from below looks remarkably like that of a seal. That and I'm assuming you are referring to a shark large enough to consume a human? Things like great whites cannot be kept in captivity the stress causes them not to eat and their underdeveloped spacial awareness causes them to bump into the sides. Also I doubt it would enjoy the chlorinated water.

Also I doubt i'd have the ability to kill it, the only things i carry on me whilst swimming are my swimming shorts and goggles hardly lethal weapons capable of repelling something like a shark.

Actually, the production of meat for consumption contributes massively to overall food shortage. It is suggested that the end of meat would = the end of world hunger/significantly reduce the problem.

Not to anywhere near the same degree that people do though.

Animals can think, some clearly can reason, show emotions, and some have very good memories. By evolutionary coincidence humans have come out on top (at the moment), and to be honest - the 'feats' achieved by humans? Look around, the world is a mess and would be better off if we were never here in the first place, probably.

Do you think the shark enjoyed having you on his back? Where would this stand on this wonderful charter? Also, "they only bite out of curiosity" - exactly what I was doing when I had my first pork chop, and I quite liked it.

And now your posts have just turned to drivel and nonsense.

I was not on the back of the sharks, i was scuba diving in the sea to observe the beauty of an alien environment different to my own. I was not there to touch the creatures or steal souvenirs like coral or shells.

That's nice I hope you enjoyed it, I'm not particularly bothered by what you eat. I've made my own personal choice.

That's nice I hope you enjoyed it, I'm not particularly bothered by what you eat. I've made my own personal choice.

How exactly? (genuinely interested).

What would happen to the thousands of farmers who battery farm etc?

Yes you have, so why should my personal choice be obstructed by an absurd list of rights to animals who won't even know they have them?