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Edexcel Government & Politics - Unit 2 Governing the UK (09/06/16)

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    [QUOTE=UKStudent17;65590841]
    (Original post by LennyBicknel)

    I would give the counter points to suggest they are ineffective.

    1) Question Time - Often leads to 'punch and judy politics', ineffective questions, limited time means not every MP can have their say. Allows the government to operate with limited accountability.

    2) House of Lords - Possesses no legitimacy because they're unelected, most of the time they abide by the Salisbury Convention and don't oppose legislation passed through the Commons.

    3) Committees - The work of committees is often ignored due to a lack of publicity and time, therefore MPs are reluctant to listen.

    4) Legislative Powers - In times of a huge government majority (E.g. Thatcher 1983; 144 seat majority), the opposition is essentially powerless to prevent government legislation from being passed, etc.

    5) Backbench Rebellions - Most MPs just abide by the government agenda and vote with them, as opposed to going against the whip. Shows that personal interests are mostly overruled by the agendas of the government. Party disunity and rebellion in other parties can inadvertently enhance the power of the executive by crippling the power of opposition.

    Tell me if I'm wrong/not making sense.
    what about the other side?
    also will you have time to write all that?
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    successes:
    hra 1998
    foi 2000
    elected mayors
    reform of judiciary - constitutional reform act 2005 - introduction of supreme courty
    fixed term parliament 2011
    recall 2015
    further devolution powers granted to scotland and wales 2011/12
    statutory register of lobbyists act 2014

    failures:
    electoral reform - democratisation
    AV referendum 2011
    hol reform removal of all but 92 hereditary peers
    elected second chamber: lords reform bill withdrawn 2012
    deduction of commons to 600mps - gerry mandering 2013
    the question is how significant though
    my teacher said you have to counter them like recall 2015 was good....but its not very flexible and does not hold mps into account enough
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    how will we have time to write about like all 9 reforms? can somebody explain?
    you wouldnt... just focus on 4 if its a 25 and 6 if its a 40, the post 2010 havent got as much depth/detail as the before reforms so you could put 2 in one pargraph and have 3 on the more important reforms and maybe 2 paragraphs on post 2010 in the 40 mark
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    [QUOTE=LennyBicknel;65591005]
    (Original post by UKStudent17)

    Sounds good. Remind me what the Salisbury convention is - I can't remember :P is that the one where the Lords shouldn't block money or manifesto bills?
    It means that the Lords won't oppose a second or third reading of government legislation promised in their manifesto. I'm not so sure about if they can block finance-based legislation, though.
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    the question is how significant though
    my teacher said you have to counter them like recall 2015 was good....but its not very flexible and does not hold mps into account enough
    oh no that was to someone asking abouut successes and failures... but yeah youd have to evaluate reforms if it was significance
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    guys can someone clarify.
    for a 40 marker, for example, how effective is parliament in checking executive power.
    so i understand you need 2 sides of the argument, is that included as youe evaulation?
    so is it (point for, explain, evaulate, link)x5 or is it (point for, explain, evaulate, link)x3 and then (point against, explain, evaulate, link)x2 ?

    so basically does evaulation in each point count as a counterpoint or is it just a necessity to back up the point you have made?
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    [QUOTE=UKStudent17;65591141]
    (Original post by LennyBicknel)

    It means that the Lords won't oppose a second or third reading of government legislation promised in their manifesto. I'm not so sure about if they can block finance-based legislation, though.
    no they cant block finance legs if it has passed through the commons as theyre non elected they cant argue with the governmnet on financial bills
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    I read that there's currently a 'Wales Bill' being presented to Parliament which might link to constitutional reforms:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36459733
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    [QUOTE=LennyBicknel;65591005]
    (Original post by UKStudent17)

    Sounds good. Remind me what the Salisbury convention is - I can't remember :P is that the one where the Lords shouldn't block money or manifesto bills?
    manifesto bills can't block anything that was contained in its election manifsto
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    If its for a 40 marker on the constitutional reforms you need to Micro and Macro analyse each point so the points on successes and failures are what you need to talk about but also like why they have been failures within those introductions. For example, you could talk about the HRA and how it introduced the ECHR into British Law which was a step in the right direction to protect rights but it relies on court decisions to decide if laws are conducive which isn't binding on Parliament so it can simply be revoked by new statute as it was in 2005 following the ruling in 2003 on freezing terrorist assets. you would have to make 5 solid points and place counter arguments on each with examples to get up to anywhere above 20 marks or in a 40 marker
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    you wouldnt... just focus on 4 if its a 25 and 6 if its a 40, the post 2010 havent got as much depth/detail as the before reforms so you could put 2 in one pargraph and have 3 on the more important reforms and maybe 2 paragraphs on post 2010 in the 40 mark
    i hope we don't get that

    hate that question lol

    do you need to know the dates of the bills or you say 'human rights act'
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    [QUOTE=mollyadtr;65591177]
    (Original post by UKStudent17)

    no they cant block finance legs if it has passed through the commons as theyre non elected they cant argue with the governmnet on financial bills
    So how did they manage to block the tax credits bill?
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    (Original post by tom476zf)
    guys can someone clarify.
    for a 40 marker, for example, how effective is parliament in checking executive power.
    so i understand you need 2 sides of the argument, is that included as youe evaulation?
    so is it (point for, explain, evaulate, link)x5 or is it (point for, explain, evaulate, link)x3 and then (point against, explain, evaulate, link)x2 ?

    so basically does evaulation in each point count as a counterpoint or is it just a necessity to back up the point you have made?
    its up to you what youd do either of those are fine..choose the one youre comfortable with

    i tend to pick a way parliament can check the executive explain it first and then evaluate it in the same paragraph- just so i know ill get the a03 marks so that if i run out of time i wouldnt be loosing marks
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    successes:
    hra 1998
    foi 2000
    elected mayors
    reform of judiciary - constitutional reform act 2005 - introduction of supreme courty
    fixed term parliament 2011
    recall 2015
    further devolution powers granted to scotland and wales 2011/12
    statutory register of lobbyists act 2014

    failures:
    electoral reform - democratisation
    AV referendum 2011
    hol reform removal of all but 92 hereditary peers
    elected second chamber: lords reform bill withdrawn 2012
    deduction of commons to 600mps - gerry mandering 2013
    I wouldn't mention deduction of commons since it's happening, otherwise nice
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    [QUOTE=UKStudent17;65591225]
    (Original post by mollyadtr)

    So how did they manage to block the tax credits bill?
    oh then i think i must be thinking about the finaincial budget of the government ..thats the only one they cant block if commons has passed it
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    i hope we don't get that

    hate that question lol

    do you need to know the dates of the bills or you say 'human rights act'
    probs not for before 2010 its just nice to include a couple of dates but i dont think it really gives you extra marks lol
    i cant remember dates at all
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    (Original post by alevelpain)
    I wouldn't mention deduction of commons since it's happening, otherwise nice
    oh is it? thanks for letting me know!
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    probs not for before 2010 its just nice to include a couple of dates but i dont think it really gives you extra marks lol
    i cant remember dates at all
    I'm actually sweating lol

    thats how worried i am
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    Thought I'd mention about the Scotland Act of this year as it is a consequence of the referendum and gives greater power like rule over income tax and control of armed forces, to Scotland.
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    its up to you what youd do either of those are fine..choose the one youre comfortable with

    i tend to pick a way parliament can check the executive explain it first and then evaluate it in the same paragraph- just so i know ill get the a03 marks so that if i run out of time i wouldnt be loosing marks
    thanks how long generally are your evaulations in realtion to you original point?
 
 
 
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