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Edexcel Government & Politics - Unit 2 Governing the UK (09/06/16)

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    (Original post by DeafeningSilence)
    Any examples of judicial independence and neutrality? And then counter examples? Really struggling with those ones!!
    Things like the changes under the Constitutional Reform Act 2005:
    Moving to a Supreme Court rather than HoL
    Removing the Lord chancellor
    Independent appointments committee.

    Less independence:
    More political involvement through judicial review
    Conflicts in the public eye between ministers and judiciary (Clarke and Blunkett both criticised judiciary.
    arguments over sentencing between ministers and judges and the introduction of the sentencing council, a political institution.
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    (Original post by Foji)
    Can someone give me an example of a successful opposition day please!!!


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    The Lib Dem Opposition Day Debate on Ghurkha residency was a defeat for Gordon Brown in 2009 with 267 - 248 backing. Together with public support - the government was pressured to give an equal right of residence for all Ghurkhas.This was the first such government defeat on OD motion since 1978.
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    So what are 45 marker predictions? On the 'peped' website the predictions for the 5/10/25 markers are roles of parliament, parliamentary government and parliamentary reforms, then meetings, PM's appointments of ministers and extent of cabinet government.

    So does anyone have 45 mark predictions? Would be very appreciated!!!
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    (Original post by Foji)
    PLEASE elaborate on those theories and explain how it relates to a pm!


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    Foley spatial leadership:
    He suggests these leaders deliberately make themselves into outsiders within government. They are potentially above government Separate from the rest of the governmentNow a space between the pm and government. Is beyond primus inter pares. Is separate from the governmentPm is personification of party- is the partySeparation of power between pm and governmentPublic perceive pm as partySense of a personal mandate – people have voted for him directly

    Hennessy context:
    Prime ministers and their power is flexible, their power fluctuates depending on the contextCan be strong or weakPresidential power is not inevitable. PMs are vulnerable to external situations

    Style Over Substance:
    Pm might look presidential – ways they operate/style/ how they deal with foreign affairs all due to media manipulation (media spin) they might look/ act like a presidential but they aren’t. theyre a prime ministerThatcher still removed by her cabinet

    Joans elastic theory:
    The pm can stretch their power – look like a president but if they push too far it will snap – the forces of constraint become increasingly strong Stretching of power
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    😂
    Don't worry I'm just as nervous...I do my exams in a shared room cause of my bad anxiety,politics is defiantly pushing my anxiety


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    oh wowww
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    Just a quick tip for those who are thinking of doing pm and cabinet!!
    Using these 3/4 theories will improve your answers if you can't necessarily think of many examples!!
    1: Foley: spatial leadership - quasi president (beyond primus inter pares)
    2: Hennessy: context
    3: Style Over Substance
    4: Joans: elastic theory


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    Also, 'how effectively does uk constitution limit power of government'

    Supreme court ensures it does, e.u & hra does, referendums do...
    Only against point i can think about is lack of separation of powers which strengthens gov... Help please


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    [QUOTE=mollyadtr;65591691]Just a quick tip for those who are thinking of doing pm and cabinet!!
    Using these 3/4 theories will improve your answers if you can't necessarily think of many examples!!
    1: Foley: spatial leadership - quasi president (beyond primus inter pares)
    2: Hennessy: context
    3: Style Over Substance
    4: Joans: elastic theory

    What is foley, Hennessy and joans?
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    (Original post by Adam_Budd)
    Things like the changes under the Constitutional Reform Act 2005:
    Moving to a Supreme Court rather than HoL
    Removing the Lord chancellor
    Independent appointments committee.

    Less independence:
    More political involvement through judicial review
    Conflicts in the public eye between ministers and judiciary (Clarke and Blunkett both criticised judiciary.
    arguments over sentencing between ministers and judges and the introduction of the sentencing council, a political institution.
    Thank youuu! Any examples of judicial neutrality? Can't find a thing, though I seem to remember a judge being removed from a tribunal or something because of past involvement....?
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    (Original post by UKStudent17)
    I would like Parliament to be a 40 marker tbh. With PM being a 25.

    What I'm saying, really, is that I just don't want to do a constitution question :lol:
    prefer constitution for 45 marker
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    (Original post by DeafeningSilence)
    Thank youuu! Any examples of judicial neutrality? Can't find a thing, though I seem to remember a judge being removed from a tribunal or something because of past involvement....?
    He was removed because it was a case over human rights and he was a fully paid up member of Amnesty International, this isn't really political nuetrality in terms of government though. I think thats the one you're talking about
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    What is foley, Hennessy and joans?[/QUOTE]

    Foley spatial leadership:
    He suggests these leaders deliberately make themselves into outsiders within government. They are potentially above government Separate from the rest of the governmentNow a space between the pm and government. Is beyond primus inter pares. Is separate from the governmentPm is personification of party- is the partySeparation of power between pm and governmentPublic perceive pm as partySense of a personal mandate – people have voted for him directly

    Hennessy context:
    Prime ministers and their power is flexible, their power fluctuates depending on the contextCan be strong or weakPresidential power is not inevitable. PMs are vulnerable to external situations

    Style Over Substance:
    Pm might look presidential – ways they operate/style/ how they deal with foreign affairs all due to media manipulation (media spin) they might look/ act like a presidential but they aren’t. theyre a prime ministerThatcher still removed by her cabinet

    Joans elastic theory:
    The pm can stretch their power – look like a president but if they push too far it will snap – the forces of constraint become increasingly strong Stretching of power
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    (Original post by Adam_Budd)
    He was removed because it was a case over human rights and he was a fully paid up member of Amnesty International, this isn't really political nuetrality in terms of government though. I think thats the one you're talking about
    It might be? I'm just looking for a case where the judge is impartial or was removed because he wasn't... You remember the name? (:
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    Oh god I'm so screwed. I've been revising all bloody year and I've realised just now I don't know anything. I always panic in exams and just go blank. Any ideas on what to do when that happens? Tips on making it look like I know what I'm talking about? Tips on not blanking and looking like an idiot?
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    (Original post by Foji)
    Also, 'how effectively does uk constitution limit power of government'

    Supreme court ensures it does, e.u & hra does, referendums do...
    Only against point i can think about is lack of separation of powers which strengthens gov... Help please


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    judicial review
    decentralisation via devolution/europe
    legal sovereignty, popular sovereignty
    lack of separation of power
    lack of entrenchment
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    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    Just a quick tip for those who are thinking of doing pm and cabinet!!
    Using these 3/4 theories will improve your answers if you can't necessarily think of many examples!!
    1: Foley: spatial leadership - quasi president (beyond primus inter pares)
    2: Hennessy: context
    3: Style Over Substance
    4: Joans: elastic theory

    What is foley, Hennessy and joans?
    (Original post by mollyadtr)
    Foley spatial leadership:
    He suggests these leaders deliberately make themselves into outsiders within government. They are potentially above government Separate from the rest of the governmentNow a space between the pm and government. Is beyond primus inter pares. Is separate from the governmentPm is personification of party- is the partySeparation of power between pm and governmentPublic perceive pm as partySense of a personal mandate – people have voted for him directly

    Hennessy context:
    Prime ministers and their power is flexible, their power fluctuates depending on the contextCan be strong or weakPresidential power is not inevitable. PMs are vulnerable to external situations

    Style Over Substance:
    Pm might look presidential – ways they operate/style/ how they deal with foreign affairs all due to media manipulation (media spin) they might look/ act like a presidential but they aren’t. theyre a prime ministerThatcher still removed by her cabinet

    Joans elastic theory:
    The pm can stretch their power – look like a president but if they push too far it will snap – the forces of constraint become increasingly strong Stretching of power
    It's explained here . Might I add, that it's spelled 'Jones'.

    I read a bit more about the elastic band theory here if you guys want to check it out (Second paragraph) - http://www.earlhamsociologypages.co.uk/coreexexpres.htm
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    How effectively judges hold governments to account with perhaps an emphasis on judicial review

    plz help me i die/??
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    (Original post by DeafeningSilence)
    It might be? I'm just looking for a case where the judge is impartial or was removed because he wasn't... You remember the name? (:
    Lord Hoffman was removed from the extradition trial of General Pinochet in 1998.
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    (Original post by 8600)



    It's explained here . Might I add, that it's spelled 'Jones'.

    I read a bit more about the elastic band theory here if you guys want to check it out (Second paragraph) - http://www.earlhamsociologypages.co.uk/coreexexpres.htm
    oh **** thank you for correcting me that would have been disastrous
    i will totally check it out
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    (Original post by gingerboyben)
    Lord Hoffman was removed from the extradition trial of General Pinochet in 1998.
    1998? Oh damn, not quite so contemporary. I guess I could use that as a backup, thank you (:
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    What would you put for 'Why are some Pms more powerful than others.', I was thinking maybe talking about the presidential style that people such as Blair adopted saps well as maybe talking about Thatchers role towards cabinet.?..
 
 
 
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