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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Kane has had half a season though.. Needs to maintain his current form for a lot longer if we're thinking of putting him top 5 or 10 etc
    That is true. Dzeko and Kane are probably same level personally. We'll see how long he maintains this form but he hasn't shown any sign of stopping.
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    Makes for compelling reading (nicked it from Goonersworld)
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Townsend had a sick season and is anonymous now. Kane?
    Townsend had a few good games for England where even then you could see the clear limitations in his game.

    Kane we'll see how he does but his form right now shows no signs of stopping. Townsend in particular I predicted that he would have died down by January.
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    My views always cause an uproar on here.

    Answer honestly guys though: if West Ham (who get Europa and we get CL in this scenario), came in with a £25m bid for Wilshere with a reasonable buy back option would you not take it? Be mental not too.
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    My views always cause an uproar on here.

    Answer honestly guys though: if West Ham (who get Europa and we get CL in this scenario), came in with a £25m bid for Wilshere with a reasonable buy back option would you not take it? Be mental not too.
    Why? Wilshere has been nowhere near as bad as you think he has (and if he had, nobody would bid 25mil for him anyway).

    Besides which, we don't need to sell anyone. The only players we should be selling is deadwood. Players who are not good enough and have no future at Arsenal. That doesn't apply to Jack.
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    (Original post by e aí rapaz)
    Why? Wilshere has been nowhere near as bad as you think he has (and if he had, nobody would bid 25mil for him anyway).

    Besides which, we don't need to sell anyone. The only players we should be selling is deadwood. Players who are not good enough and have no future at Arsenal. That doesn't apply to Jack.
    The guy is still living off THAT game vs Barca (which was probably the best midfield performance by an Arsenal player at the Emirates tbf). What's he done since then? Bottled a final, lost almost 2 years on his development through injury and be unprofessional with the smoking.
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    The guy is still living off THAT game vs Barca (which was probably the best midfield performance by an Arsenal player at the Emirates tbf). What's he done since then? Bottled a final, lost almost 2 years on his development through injury and be unprofessional with the smoking.
    I disagree. And it seems that everyone else does too, so either you're right and everyone else is wrong, or you're just wrong.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Townsend had a few good games for England where even then you could see the clear limitations in his game.

    Kane we'll see how he does but his form right now shows no signs of stopping. Townsend in particular I predicted that he would have died down by January.
    Have to admit I am surprised by Kane every week and it would be an absolute farce if he doesnt get an England call up.
    Tottenham did well by tying him down to a contract, but his next location? Heard he was being scouted my Madrid.
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    (Original post by e aí rapaz)
    I disagree. And it seems that everyone else does too, so either you're right and everyone else is wrong, or you're just wrong.
    Tell me what Wilshere has done for ARSENAL since then returning from his injury in 2012 then.
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    I agree that Wilshere is a liability (I'm very pro-Giroud though). I don't think it's a coincidence that we've been getting better results when he's not playing. It's the Daily Mail so hold your noses, but the stats don't lie: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ent-games.html

    Personally I still haven't forgiven him for the Man U game where in the 2-on-1 with De Gea he decided to shoot straight at De Gea rather than pass to Alexis for a simple tap in - you could see him thinking "oh yeah gonna score against Man U the papers will love this ****TTTTTTTTTTT". Then he tried to start a fight and only avoided a red because he's too short to headbutt Fellaini.

    He's still coasting by on the England's-next-great-hope hype from years ago IMO, along with Walcott. Defenders are to Walcott what a red flag is to a bull, he can't stop himself from charging into them.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Have to admit I am surprised by Kane every week and it would be an absolute farce if he doesnt get an England call up.
    Tottenham did well by tying him down to a contract, but his next location? Heard he was being scouted my Madrid.
    No idea but Madrid will be paying a shell load if they do.

    They love Benzema to bits though. Perez has a hard on for this guy.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Giroud is actually one of the top 6 strikers in the PL, imo he's overtaken the likes of Benteke/Lukaku
    I don't think that means much even when he had the best striker in the league (RVP) we still came 4th. I don't think Giroud is top 6 anyway there are plenty better than him.
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    I don't think Wilshere has as much ceiling as we make out to be. I think the form he had at the start of the season was good but he was only our best midfielder because everyone else was out of form. It's a tradition with English players really, that spark very fast but you don't really see them develop that well later into there careers bar a few exceptions. I don't think Jack will become a complete midfielder or ever reach world class but he has the potential to be one of our best players no doubt. Most likely hood is that due to his reoccurring injury problems he won't reach his potential. He's hardly played any games for us this season so yes, I would take 25m for Wilshere but in a window where Lallana goes for around 28m I'd expect Wilshere to hit 30m too.

    There are better ready made players out there now, and certainly for sure better youth prospects too.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    I don't think Wilshere has as much ceiling as we make out to be. I think the form he had at the start of the season was good but he was only our best midfielder because everyone else was out of form. It's a tradition with English players really, that spark very fast but you don't really see them develop that well later into there careers bar a few exceptions. I don't think Jack will become a complete midfielder or ever reach world class but he has the potential to be one of our best players no doubt. Most likely hood is that due to his reoccurring injury problems he won't reach his potential. He's hardly played any games for us this season so yes, I would take 25m for Wilshere but in a window where Lallana goes for around 28m I'd expect Wilshere to hit 30m too.

    There are better ready made players out there now, and certainly for sure better youth prospects too.


    "Sometimes these things can be little bit solved internally"
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    "Sometimes these things can be little bit solved internally"
    What point are you making I'm unaware

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    What point are you making I'm unaware

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    Crowley will make it at Arsenal b4 JW
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    What point are you making I'm unaware

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    "There are better ready made players out there now, and certainly for sure better youth prospects too."

    He's also added Arsene's "little bit" in his sentence.
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    (Original post by EddyP)
    I agree that Wilshere is a liability (I'm very pro-Giroud though). I don't think it's a coincidence that we've been getting better results when he's not playing. It's the Daily Mail so hold your noses, but the stats don't lie: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ent-games.html

    Personally I still haven't forgiven him for the Man U game where in the 2-on-1 with De Gea he decided to shoot straight at De Gea rather than pass to Alexis for a simple tap in - you could see him thinking "oh yeah gonna score against Man U the papers will love this ****TTTTTTTTTTT". Then he tried to start a fight and only avoided a red because he's too short to headbutt Fellaini.

    He's still coasting by on the England's-next-great-hope hype from years ago IMO, along with Walcott. Defenders are to Walcott what a red flag is to a bull, he can't stop himself from charging into them.
    Agree with it all apart from on Theo. Theo knows his limitations, he is very much a poacher, his movement is fantastic though, and probably the best finisher in the squad.
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    Crowley will make it at Arsenal b4 JW
    Why 'b4'? Surely Jack's finished if Crowley makes it.
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    Were linked with verratti and although paper gossip, I would take him.

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