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    (Original post by Midlander)
    I think what is being got at is that cheating your opponent of a clear chance of scoring a goal is the sort of thing the higher ups are keen to phase out. It's a difficult thing to decide on as both sides of the coin are equally valid I think, but stopping a ball going in with your hands being punished with a penalty is something I don't agree with. You take what would have been a certain goal and replace it with a chance of missing.

    A penalty goal and yellow card for the offender would be enough.
    In that case maybe deliberate handball by an outfield player to stop a goal should be a separate offence, not "denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity" but rather "denying a clear goal"? To punish that with a penalty goal though, the officials would have to be sure it was actually going in (think Oxlade-Chamberlain against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge this season) or they would be making up a goal that never was.

    The situation where I do agree to an extent is where the foul happens outside the box when it was a clear goal-scoring opportunity (one-on-one with the keeper with the defender having little to no chance of making a fair challenge in time) - that is a bit harder as a free-kick won't have as high a chance of being converted as a penalty or probably even the chance that was denied.
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    (Original post by alex_hk90)
    In that case maybe deliberate handball by an outfield player to stop a goal should be a separate offence, not "denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity" but rather "denying a clear goal"? To punish that with a penalty goal though, the officials would have to be sure it was actually going in (think Oxlade-Chamberlain against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge this season) or they would be making up a goal that never was.

    The situation where I do agree to an extent is where the foul happens outside the box when it was a clear goal-scoring opportunity (one-on-one with the keeper with the defender having little to no chance of making a fair challenge in time) - that is a bit harder as a free-kick won't have as high a chance of being converted as a penalty or probably even the chance that was denied.
    The key thing is that whatever rules we have are as simple to understand and apply as possible. If the referee thinks that the ball is going in and a player stops it with his hands then that's denying a clear goal as opposed to the chance of one so I agree they should be different. To help with this at higher levels you could easily implement a hawkeye type system where the trajectory of the ball is made unambiguous.

    Lower down the ladder obviously this isn't possible but I think we'd all agree that the present 'double punishment' needs changing.
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    I hate QPR more than the next guy but I can't have that what O'Neill did was cheating, if my teams player hadn't done that I'd be all over him for stealing a living - I can understand the hurt, but their needs to be a bit of understanding of the difference between gaining a advantage and full out cheating.
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    Orient-Rotherham heading to penalties.
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    NOOOOO, Orient lost on penalties

    Ahh well, I'm not really an Orient fan but it would of been nice to see my local club get promoted.
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    That's 5 play off finals in a row where the team i've been rooting for has lost.
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    Steve Evans in the Championship :rofl:
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    Rotherham were the best team we played this season but how can you not be gutted for Russell Slade, both are better than a third of the teams in the championship.
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    I'm not sure whether to be sad or happy about Rovrum going up. On one hand they're essentially a rather annoying and small section of Sheff Utd with Steve Evans at the helm. The only benefits being a local away day and a 'derby' cup final to look forward to. Think i'm sad more than anything :lol:
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    It's Miller delight! Rotherham United beat Leyton Orient on penalties to get to the Championship!

    I've got to say, it was captivating stuff. Rotherham tbf, didn't play that badly in the first half to be 2-0 down but had Leyton scored a third, it really would have been game over. Revell's second goal was a beauty (even big Evans did a jog down the touchline!) and had they really pushed, might have nicked a third quickly after that.

    You can tell these two teams were tied on points in the league, really close battle but both sides looking to win. Penalties from Leyton Orient were all well taken besides the two missed but brilliant moment for the town. Steve Evans, despite his errors in behaviour in the past, has done a brilliant job but with the right spending, could do enough to survive in the Championship next season.
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    (Original post by nixonsjellybeans)
    I'm not sure whether to be sad or happy about Rovrum going up. On one hand they're essentially a rather annoying and small section of Sheff Utd with Steve Evans at the helm. The only benefits being a local away day and a 'derby' cup final to look forward to. Think i'm sad more than anything :lol:
    Being in the league below Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Brentford and now Rotherham. What a bloody piss take.


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    Regardless of the money they've spent, all these promotions in recent years are a brilliant achievement. Congratulations Fleetwood.
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    I'm pleased for Fleetwood, but a special mention to Nathan Pond. Not only did he play for my hometown team Lancaster City but he's been with Fleetwood from the beginning and has now made it to League One after just 10 years. Crazy.

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    Here's the league table from Fleetwood's promotion in 2005. Although most of you probably haven't heard of most of these teams, it's strange for me as I've actually played at 4 or 5 of these teams.
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    All playoffs over, leagues are sorted for next year, and there's already rumours Di Matteo is to be announced as Watford manager on Friday. Give me a break.
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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    Regardless of the money they've spent, all these promotions in recent years are a brilliant achievement. Congratulations Fleetwood.
    Just another Crawley gaining artificial success.


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    (Original post by Midlander)
    Just another Crawley gaining artificial success.


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    And like Creepy Crawley, the financial bubble will soon go bust, and Cheatwood can go back to the North West Counties league where they belong. Really can't stand teams like that. And seemingly Eastleigh will be the next one.
    I was partly glad that Fleetwood went up though, as it means they can't distort the wage and transfer fees in League 2 now
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    (Original post by bun)
    And like Creepy Crawley, the financial bubble will soon go bust, and Cheatwood can go back to the North West Counties league where they belong. Really can't stand teams like that. And seemingly Eastleigh will be the next one.
    I was partly glad that Fleetwood went up though, as it means they can't distort the wage and transfer fees in League 2 now
    We are losing even more players this summer for literally nothing. I expect a battering from Fleetwood which shows how bloody awful my club's being run.
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    Reports that good old Leon may be off to Crawley on loan... oh it would be glorious!
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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    Reports that good old Leon may be off to Crawley on loan... oh it would be glorious!
    Pretending to be injured so he could move to Wolves seems to have worked a treat for him.


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    Apparently a member of One Direction is going to be a director of Doncaster Rovers soon. Surely if the video of him the other week in Peru is genuine then he should not pass the owner and directors test?
 
 
 
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